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RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
August 07 2011 17:08 GMT
#5281
ESL or whoever it is, really likes Dream Theater

Count of Tuscany lol.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
August 07 2011 17:08 GMT
#5282
On August 08 2011 02:06 sickoota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 02:05 soulist wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:02 sickoota wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret.

Sen is pretty good, but not particularly consistent, only really did well at NASL after a long long run of unsuccessful tournaments. The only thing Idra is consistent at is mediocrity, he has been going to alot of tournaments lately and never breaking top 3 in any of them.


He's been to a lot of tournaments???? WHAT. All he does is MLG and IPL. What tournaments does he go to???????

Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them.


4th place at Columbus is notable.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
August 07 2011 17:08 GMT
#5283
Carmac a true showman!
frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5284
Lol, crowd making WOW guys so bad;D
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:09:54
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5285
On August 08 2011 02:06 ForTheDr3am wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 02:05 TheKefka wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:03 TeWy wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:46 Bliznako wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:43 sleepingdog wrote:
We need more PvZ early all-ins to change the metagame. This is ridiculous


Exactly my thoughts... Unlike terrans, protoss players seem to have stopped doing the one base all ins or early pressure, allowing zergs to start with three bases (?), droning up to 60+ drones in the first few minutes.

I totally cannot understand this trend. Ret was playing the same style few months ago and was blown away in Korea by early pàressure, always overdroning being his doom and now the same style reaps rewards. And please don't tell me how much he has improved - Ret has always been a macro beast, looks like his time has come.


I can't make a 4 gate work against Zerg in Master league, so I've great doubts that it will ever work at this level.
Protoss simply can't put pressure on the Zerg, and Zerg have figured out that these voidray/phoenixes harass were easily shut down by a few spore crawlers.
So what can you do as Protoss ?

Random timing pushes still occasionaly work though.
Sad thing is that they it relies entirely on Zerg mistakes.

Btw with the exception of MLG (dominated by Korean Terrans), every recent tournaments have been won by Zerg: GSL code S, WCG China, Assembly, now blizzcon, and btw one of the finalist of the current GO4SC2 is a Zerg as well (second might also be Zerg).
And the most depressing is that you can't blame the infestors for that... It's more due to the fact that Zerg players learned how to use their lategame units and repell the timing pushes...




That's what I have been saying for months now,only difference is I think the lack of 1 base play for P against zerg comes from the warpgate nerf(4 gate) which was the only real 1 base play you could do against zerg


Problem is that Z have learned about positioning and micro so all warpgate pushes are useless now.

No....the problem is that any allin you could do off 1 base needs warpgate and the build time is so slow that,by the time you get there:a) they know something is up because you didn't expand or you have a lack of sentrys and b)ling speed finishes and they have a evo chamber up by the time you get there
Cackle™
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5286
wow the sc2 prize pool is all nice "1person":< the wow people have to share nothin bad with that
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Vladix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands227 Posts
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5287
On August 08 2011 02:08 RealQ wrote:
European invitational... prizemoney in dollars..


what.


So it is equal to the USA prize money.
Inane_Asylum
Profile Joined October 2010
United States196 Posts
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5288
Goody was clapping for ReT. Awesome.
"Stare not into the playstyle of CatZ, lest it stare back into you." -TotalBiscuit
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:10:12
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5289
On August 08 2011 02:08 frozenrb wrote:
5k and road to blizzcon, why so sad Naniwa ?

Because it's not 1st place.
Also, lol@esports manager.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:10:11
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5290
2nd again, poor Nani he's always so hard on himself (see HSC3)
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5291
I'm zerg and I was still rooting for Naniwa. It's becoming a bit sad to see him 2nd every tournament, I feel like something is off and I don't wish him to become the yellow of SC2: it's such an hard role to have, always second.
Still gratz ret, I'm happy to see you at such level.

Another question, anyone know how the invite are made for this blizzard invitational ? Feels like a lot of euro players are missing and it ruin the fun a little for me.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5292
On August 08 2011 02:08 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 02:06 sickoota wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:05 soulist wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:02 sickoota wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret.

Sen is pretty good, but not particularly consistent, only really did well at NASL after a long long run of unsuccessful tournaments. The only thing Idra is consistent at is mediocrity, he has been going to alot of tournaments lately and never breaking top 3 in any of them.


He's been to a lot of tournaments???? WHAT. All he does is MLG and IPL. What tournaments does he go to???????

Homestory, dreamhack, every MLG? Notable performances in none of them.


He won MLG DC and got 4th at MLG Columbus.

DC was quite a bit ago cmon, ret won assembly last winter but that doesnt tell us about his shape now?
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
August 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#5293
On August 08 2011 02:03 TeWy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 01:46 Bliznako wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:43 sleepingdog wrote:
We need more PvZ early all-ins to change the metagame. This is ridiculous


Exactly my thoughts... Unlike terrans, protoss players seem to have stopped doing the one base all ins or early pressure, allowing zergs to start with three bases (?), droning up to 60+ drones in the first few minutes.

I totally cannot understand this trend. Ret was playing the same style few months ago and was blown away in Korea by early pàressure, always overdroning being his doom and now the same style reaps rewards. And please don't tell me how much he has improved - Ret has always been a macro beast, looks like his time has come.


I can't make a 4 gate work against Zerg in Master league, so I've great doubts that it will ever work at this level.
Protoss simply can't put pressure on the Zerg, and Zerg have figured out that these voidray/phoenixes harass were easily shut down by a few spore crawlers.
So what can you do as Protoss ?

Random timing pushes still occasionaly work though.
Sad thing is that they it relies entirely on Zerg mistakes.

Btw with the exception of MLG (dominated by Korean Terrans), every recent tournaments have been won by Zerg: GSL code S, WCG China, Assembly, now blizzcon, and btw one of the finalist of the current GO4SC2 is a Zerg as well (second might also be Zerg).
And the most depressing is that you can't blame the infestors for that... It's more due to the fact that Zerg players learned how to use their lategame units and repell the timing pushes...




Remember the giant shitstorm about the deathball and ffe some months ago ? Those were good times : "can't sc00t protoss. Colossosisies r retardd. wat can u do wen P ffe ? cant take them 3rd dat greedy is punish at ons." for over 9000 pages of threads.

Like every build ways of circonventing it (or even countering it) will be found. Then Z will say you can't do anything against those ways. But then new maps, build will be used. Then P will... well you get the point.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
Thesidu
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden290 Posts
August 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#5294
haha what a beutiful voice he have
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ToxiAU
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia4 Posts
August 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#5295
I was rooting for Nani though both played really well. Nani's ability to control an outnumbered situation was really inspiring, but he was outplayed. Great games I must say, loved every second.
Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
August 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#5296
Im really really happy for ret.
He looks so happy.

Really well done Ret and hope to see more good games in future events from you!
Inane_Asylum
Profile Joined October 2010
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:10:43
August 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#5297
On August 08 2011 02:08 RealQ wrote:
European invitational... prizemoney in dollars..


what.


/edit/ nevermind...
"Stare not into the playstyle of CatZ, lest it stare back into you." -TotalBiscuit
Liudo
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
August 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#5298
hahaha imba accent from the blizzard guy...
HavocGG
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic113 Posts
August 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#5299
This blizzard guy reminds me of the emperor from Star Wars :x
delHospital
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland261 Posts
August 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#5300
wtf o.O
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