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PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5241
A GRACKET!
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5242
On August 08 2011 02:04 Mungosh wrote:
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On August 08 2011 02:00 Beyonder wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:00 MrKn4rz wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:58 Denzil wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:55 darlhet wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:54 Denzil wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:53 darlhet wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:51 _Repo wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:50 zeru wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:49 damod wrote:
[quote]
And IdrA

Idra is not at dimaga sen rets level haha



Lol, amusing how wrong you can be.

well ret and dimaga just won a major tuornament taking out sick players, idra didnt lately, getting top 12 at mlg isnt a comparable achievement, if he tier up some big lan in the near future he will be there, not now though


He was TOP foreigner at Columbus

thats not winning a tuornamenet and it was a while ago...


So what counts as relevant tournaments now? Tournaments played within the last 2 weeks?
Stop acting silly. Idra has had no events to play outside of MLG and 1 other in the past month.

Also he won IPL Season 1 and has good Chances to win the 2nd Season aswell.

Yeah, he beat an invite-only American tournament :D gz

How is that any different from Ret winning this tournament?

I allready feel sorry for starting this.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5243
IDRA PLAYS WOW?!?!?
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5244
On August 08 2011 02:02 sickoota wrote:
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On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret.

Sen is pretty good, but not particularly consistent, only really did well at NASL after a long long run of unsuccessful tournaments. The only thing Idra is consistent at is mediocrity, he has been going to alot of tournaments lately and never breaking top 3 in any of them.


He's been to a lot of tournaments???? WHAT. All he does is MLG and IPL. What tournaments does he go to???????
Evil Geniuses<3
Thesidu
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden290 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5245
lol Draintrain man in black
¯\_(シ)_/¯
RealQ
Profile Joined March 2011
1120 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5246
Victorinox.. wait what?

taking about shit names.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5247
On August 08 2011 02:03 Dfgj wrote:
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On August 08 2011 02:00 Beyonder wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:00 MrKn4rz wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:58 Denzil wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:55 darlhet wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:54 Denzil wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:53 darlhet wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:51 _Repo wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:50 zeru wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:49 damod wrote:
[quote]
And IdrA

Idra is not at dimaga sen rets level haha



Lol, amusing how wrong you can be.

well ret and dimaga just won a major tuornament taking out sick players, idra didnt lately, getting top 12 at mlg isnt a comparable achievement, if he tier up some big lan in the near future he will be there, not now though


He was TOP foreigner at Columbus

thats not winning a tuornamenet and it was a while ago...


So what counts as relevant tournaments now? Tournaments played within the last 2 weeks?
Stop acting silly. Idra has had no events to play outside of MLG and 1 other in the past month.

Also he won IPL Season 1 and has good Chances to win the 2nd Season aswell.

Yeah, he beat an invite-only American tournament :D gz

Doesn't stop the LR thread orgasming when Ret wins an invite-only Euro tournament.

Yeah but winning a tourney with the European stars means so much more haha. Cant disagree on that one ^^
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shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5248
The guy on the right side looks like IdrA, haha
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
gammAwolfa
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland213 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5249
lol i miss saw idra there
dota2 - imiceice ~
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:06:00
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5250
On August 08 2011 02:03 Baituri wrote:
Good evening everybody.

Enjoyed this tournament a lot!

Great casting by RotterdaM and MrBitter. I can see them groing to an Tastosis, DayjWheat level (I like them more already, but hope others will see it as well.)

Joe Miller and Carmac also did an amazing thing on stage. Good questions to the players and let the show get on a good roll.

Lastly thanks to all the players for the great games. Some of the best I have seen from Foreigner vs Foreigner in a long time!

100% agree, I was really surprised how good MrBitter and Rotterdam commentated together
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5251
On August 08 2011 02:03 Talin wrote:
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On August 08 2011 01:59 MuseMike wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:55 Talin wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:52 MrSexington wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:50 Telcontar wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:49 damod wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:48 zeru wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:48 Tobon wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:44 Morale wrote:
Man tbh Ret is by far the best non korean zerg.


Sen.

And dimaga.

And IdrA

Not by recent showing, but do we have to bring IdrA up every time a zerg player wins? Come on.


I don't think it's too offensive to bring up IdrA. Speaking of foreign Zergs in recent major tournaments, IdrA was the highest placing foreign Zerg at MLG Anaheim.


You know things aren't working out well for someone when you start listing "highest placing X of all Y of the nationality Z in this one tournament" as an accomplishment but he actually wasn't even in top 10 of that tournament.

Let's not forget Idra gets dominated by Nani and Thorzain too, so...

Ret is at this very moment the best non-Korean Zerg. He would be that based on yesterday's games alone, even if he lost to Thorzain today.

The level at which he plays the game is so much higher than other foreign Zergs at this moment. Nobody ever dominated Nani and Thorzain like this since their rise to the top. Nobody.

MLG had koreans this tournament didn't, there is no doubt Koreans would have won this if they went. Ret went to MLG Anaheim too, but placed lower than IdrA. I don't like IdrA either but you are making a straw man.


Ret and Idra pretty much had the same showing at Anaheim, except Ret got eliminated 2-1 by Ganzi (you know, the dude from SlayerS, the team who had the best minds in the game handcraft a new TvZ build).

Idra got eliminated 2-0 by Naniwa. The guy who... we've just seen get completely dominated.

Straw man is bringing up their final ranking while ignoring f the circumstances under which the rank was achieved.


One game determines who is better right? IdrA had a Code S spot if you want to bring that up to. Ganzi is not even code S, so does that mean IdrA can beat Ganzi?
OrChard
Profile Joined February 2011
Hong Kong1119 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5252
Idra!!!!!!!!!!!
He switched to WOW?
Protosser
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5253
On August 08 2011 01:57 msjakofsky wrote:
poor naniwa after he failed to become the bonjwa of tsl3 he got 2nd place in hsc and this too... huk and thorzain managed to become bonjwas so nani deserves some bonjwaness too. maybe make a bonjwa-cup where the top 3 are all bonjwas? gold, silver and bronze bonjwa.



Holy crap, well played.
Thesidu
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden290 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5254
On August 08 2011 02:05 shineq wrote:
The guy on the right side looks like IdrA, haha


He plays warlock aswell lol
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5255
On August 08 2011 02:04 Mungosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 02:00 Beyonder wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:00 MrKn4rz wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:58 Denzil wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:55 darlhet wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:54 Denzil wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:53 darlhet wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:51 _Repo wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:50 zeru wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:49 damod wrote:
[quote]
And IdrA

Idra is not at dimaga sen rets level haha



Lol, amusing how wrong you can be.

well ret and dimaga just won a major tuornament taking out sick players, idra didnt lately, getting top 12 at mlg isnt a comparable achievement, if he tier up some big lan in the near future he will be there, not now though


He was TOP foreigner at Columbus

thats not winning a tuornamenet and it was a while ago...


So what counts as relevant tournaments now? Tournaments played within the last 2 weeks?
Stop acting silly. Idra has had no events to play outside of MLG and 1 other in the past month.

Also he won IPL Season 1 and has good Chances to win the 2nd Season aswell.

Yeah, he beat an invite-only American tournament :D gz

How is that any different from Ret winning this tournament?


Well, in IPL it was Idra Select or KikiKakki. The other players weren't even close to these 3 in term of level of play.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:06:57
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5256
On August 08 2011 02:03 TeWy wrote:
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On August 08 2011 01:46 Bliznako wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:43 sleepingdog wrote:
We need more PvZ early all-ins to change the metagame. This is ridiculous


Exactly my thoughts... Unlike terrans, protoss players seem to have stopped doing the one base all ins or early pressure, allowing zergs to start with three bases (?), droning up to 60+ drones in the first few minutes.

I totally cannot understand this trend. Ret was playing the same style few months ago and was blown away in Korea by early pàressure, always overdroning being his doom and now the same style reaps rewards. And please don't tell me how much he has improved - Ret has always been a macro beast, looks like his time has come.


I can't make a 4 gate work against Zerg in Master league, so I've great doubts that it will ever work at this level.
Protoss simply can't put pressure on the Zerg, and Zerg have figured out that these voidray/phoenixes harass were easily shut down by a few spore crawlers.
So what can you do as Protoss ?

Random timing pushes still occasionaly work though.
Sad thing is that they it relies entirely on Zerg mistakes.

Btw with the exception of MLG (dominated by Korean Terrans), every recent tournaments have been won by Zerg: GSL code S, WCG China, Assembly, now blizzcon, and btw one of the finalist of the current GO4SC2 is a Zerg as well (second might also be Zerg).
And the most depressing is that you can't blame the infestors for that... It's more due to the fact that Zerg players learned how to use their lategame units and repell the timing pushes...




That's what I have been saying for months now,only difference is I think the lack of 1 base play for P against zerg comes from the warpgate nerf(4 gate) which was the only real 1 base play you could do against zerg
Now we have....umm well.....cannons i guess.
Cackle™
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5257
Dream Theater, yeahhh:D
Dating thread on TL LUL
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
August 07 2011 17:05 GMT
#5258
On August 08 2011 02:04 Mungosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 02:00 Beyonder wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:00 MrKn4rz wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:58 Denzil wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:55 darlhet wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:54 Denzil wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:53 darlhet wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:51 _Repo wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:50 zeru wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:49 damod wrote:
[quote]
And IdrA

Idra is not at dimaga sen rets level haha



Lol, amusing how wrong you can be.

well ret and dimaga just won a major tuornament taking out sick players, idra didnt lately, getting top 12 at mlg isnt a comparable achievement, if he tier up some big lan in the near future he will be there, not now though


He was TOP foreigner at Columbus

thats not winning a tuornamenet and it was a while ago...


So what counts as relevant tournaments now? Tournaments played within the last 2 weeks?
Stop acting silly. Idra has had no events to play outside of MLG and 1 other in the past month.

Also he won IPL Season 1 and has good Chances to win the 2nd Season aswell.

Yeah, he beat an invite-only American tournament :D gz

How is that any different from Ret winning this tournament?


I think his point is besides IdrA there aren't that many good Americans, atleast in the IPL and that there are quite a lot of good Europeans, I guess?
Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
August 07 2011 17:06 GMT
#5259
On August 08 2011 02:03 soulist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 02:01 disco wrote:
On August 08 2011 01:59 soulist wrote:
I like how Ret wins 1 championship in the last 6 months and everyone jumps on his bandwagon saying he is one of the top 3 foreign zergs. Idra and Sen are way more consistent then Dimaga and Ret.


It's also the fashion he won in. Plus the fact that he was already a beast @ the last MLG.


In terms of consistency Idra is much more consistent then Ret and Dimaga.


That's not necessarily a good thing.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
August 07 2011 17:06 GMT
#5260
Wow Dream Theater ! <3 I just love all the music they put down this weekend <3
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