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Try to keep it positive in the thread please. And stop hating on other games! Respect and show everyone how awesome TL is :D
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
August 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#7761
On August 07 2011 06:41 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:32 Ecliptium wrote:
ROFL. 10 people just got fired for that song. Can't believe that was just aired. so funny



What song did they play?


some song about being fly like a G6?? Whatever that means.
Hi
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#7762
Arg, when we got a good song :/
Liudo
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 21:43:57
August 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#7763
On August 07 2011 06:22 Meancookie wrote:
Some more important terminology for people:

RMP = rogue/mage/priest -> the sustained damage of this comp is pretty low, but they can burst really hard every once in a while. they also have excellent control. similar to a macro-style zerg who has lings running all over the map while muta micro etc etc

cleaves = physical damage cleaves, consisting of a healer and either 2 melee classes or a melee class and a hunter. notorious for having NO CONTROL but rather such obscene damage output that all they have to do to win is attack a target with both damageclasses (oversimplification but you get the point)

wizzard cleaves = a team consisting of a healer and 2 caster classes. they have too much control for it to be balanced :p there are 2 subtypes: burst wizzard cleaves (those that randomly kill people out of nowhere) and shadowplay (based on constant pressure with lots of damage-over-time abilities)

double healer teams = a warrior(or death knight) with 2 healers, meaning you have 1 damage dealer who can afford to go over the top aggressive. they usually win by outmana-ing the opponent

apparently both teams we're gonna see are "shadowcleaves": a team consiting of a healer, an affliction warlock and a death knight. they rely on outlasting the opponent with medium control and LOTS AND LOTS of pressure (i.e. everyone's health will be low hp nonstop)


Good summary. Unfortunately the match-up I enjoy watching the most is anything with RMP, including RMP mirrors. RMP is possibly the most classic WoW 3 man arena team, and some of the most famous arena teams have been RMP (like the Korean team Buttonbashers with their mage Orangemarmalade). The communication you need to co-ordinate the control and the burst between the 3 players is extremely high-level. Unforunately the downfall with this combo is the weakness of WoW PvP: it's highly balanced around PvE and flavour-of-the-month setups. So right now in Cata anything with a warlock is extremely strong. I imagine it's no accident that the two teams in the final are shadowcleave. And that's what's been so frustrating all along with WoW arena: it had a lot of potential, but ultimately Blizzard made a rational economic decision not to support arean balance because it's simply too hard to balance arena and PvE.

Blizzard have even admitted that making arenas was a mistake, and that if they did it all again they would have gone forward with competitve BGs as the original model of competitve PvP.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
August 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#7764
They cut it off at Foo Fighters, obviously.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
August 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#7765
I haven't been able to watch every second of the broadcast today. But DAMN what a fantastic event and production! I was at a friends house playing Xbox and insisted on having the stream on the secondary screen, after a while everyone was watching SC2 instead of playing :D Extremely well put together this one! Can't wait for tomorrow's matches. At least two new fans of SC2 were made today
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#7766
Who is the speaker atm ? The English one? I hear him all the time at events but I don't know who he is
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
August 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#7767
On August 07 2011 06:43 Benjef wrote:
Who is the speaker atm ? The English one? I hear him all the time at events but I don't know who he is


Joe Miller, Quake caster.
Thesidu
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden290 Posts
August 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#7768
On August 07 2011 06:43 Benjef wrote:
Who is the speaker atm ? The English one? I hear him all the time at events but I don't know who he is


Joe miller
¯\_(シ)_/¯
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
August 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#7769
Anyone unsynced?
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Cuiu
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany410 Posts
August 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#7770
is it over with Sc2?
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 21:44:16
August 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#7771
On August 07 2011 06:42 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:41 zev318 wrote:
i think WSG had more of a esport future than arenas.


Flying in a 10 person team to a LAN tournament. Yeah a bright future indeed


in terms of competition, i think it did. CTF is more fun to watch than who can blow cooldowns harder.

group discounts for plane tickets, comeon!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#7772
On August 07 2011 06:42 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:41 zev318 wrote:
i think WSG had more of a esport future than arenas.


Flying in a 10 person team to a LAN tournament. Yeah a bright future indeed


well that's a thing nobody thought about :|
THANK YOU FOR RUINING OUR DREAMS
Kevmeister @ Dota2
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
August 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#7773
On August 07 2011 06:42 Liudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 06:22 Meancookie wrote:
Some more important terminology for people:

RMP = rogue/mage/priest -> the sustained damage of this comp is pretty low, but they can burst really hard every once in a while. they also have excellent control. similar to a macro-style zerg who has lings running all over the map while muta micro etc etc

cleaves = physical damage cleaves, consisting of a healer and either 2 melee classes or a melee class and a hunter. notorious for having NO CONTROL but rather such obscene damage output that all they have to do to win is attack a target with both damageclasses (oversimplification but you get the point)

wizzard cleaves = a team consisting of a healer and 2 caster classes. they have too much control for it to be balanced :p there are 2 subtypes: burst wizzard cleaves (those that randomly kill people out of nowhere) and shadowplay (based on constant pressure with lots of damage-over-time abilities)

double healer teams = a warrior(or death knight) with 2 healers, meaning you have 1 damage dealer who can afford to go over the top aggressive. they usually win by outmana-ing the opponent

apparently both teams we're gonna see are "shadowcleaves": a team consiting of a healer, an affliction warlock and a death knight. they rely on outlasting the opponent with medium control and LOTS AND LOTS of pressure (i.e. everyone's health will be low hp nonstop)


Good summary. Unfortunately the match-up I enjoy watching the most is anything with RMP, including RMP mirrors. RMP is possibly the most classic WoW 3 man arena team, and some of the most famous arena teams have been RMP (like the Korean team Buttonbashers with their mage Orangemarmalade). The communication you need to co-ordinate the control and the burst between the 3 players is extremely high-level. Unforunately the downfall with this combo is the weakness of WoW PvP: it's highly balanced around PvE and flavour-of-the-month setups. So right now in Cata anything with a warlock is extremely strong. I imagine it's no accident that the two teams in the final are shadowcleave. And that's what's been so frustrating all along with WoW arena: it had a lot of potential, but ultimately Blizzard made a rational economic decision not to support arean balance because it's simply too hard to balance arena and PvE.

Blizzard have even admitted that making arenas was a mistake, and that if they did it all again they would have gone forward with competitve BGs as the original model of competitve PvP.


the first match I ever saw was an RMP vs WLD (celex on mage in TBC was lol, hoodrych/greenranger/nadagast as WLD)

best matchup ever imho :p
Harpoonseal
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
August 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#7774
I keep watching streams and tournaments that play music like this, and I can't help but wonder if they actually get rights to public performances from the labels, or if they assume that nobody will find out.

I have no idea if they need to, but considering that the enforcement agencies went after the girl scouts for campfire songs, I can't imagine anyone just leaving it up to chance.
Airionn
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom186 Posts
August 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#7775
is it out of sync for anyone els?
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
August 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#7776
Wait what? They had the Foo Fighters? God damn, why did I have my own music on... I've been listening to shit all day and just when I decide to listen to my own music they decide to put good songs on.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
August 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#7777
give them big round of oh wait nvm there is no people LOL
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
August 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#7778
Sweatpants all the way!
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
August 06 2011 21:45 GMT
#7779
lol that guy in the middle. come on man, show some manners, take your fucking hands out of ur pockets
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 06 2011 21:45 GMT
#7780
On August 07 2011 06:44 Thorakh wrote:
Wait what? They had the Foo Fighters? God damn, why did I have my own music on... I've been listening to shit all day and just when I decide to listen to my own music they decide to put good songs on.

Don't worry they played like the first 30 seconds then the WoW started
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
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