On August 06 2011 04:51 Jknighty wrote:
The last MLG tournament of the season has $50,000 for first. The regular season prize money will be bumped up next season I assume.

Are the finals this evening?

Finals starting in 10 minutes I think.

Jknighty

159 Posts

August 05 2011 19:52 GMT

#2202

I thought they were but all the streams have gone offline and no tweets about it from Apollo or TB. It makes me super happy though

Titorelli

2492 Posts

August 05 2011 19:53 GMT

#2203

On August 06 2011 04:51 Hondelul wrote:

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But the LR is sooo peaceful

beside a friendly argument regarding timezones, a few sites about Idra vs EU Zerg (no thread without Idra) and one hardcore Brat_ok fan who thought he is a disgrace for Russia with his 4th place I can´t remember anything negative.

LOL really? Someone called the best Russian player a disgrace for Russia? :D

Nerdslayer

Denmark1130 Posts

August 05 2011 19:54 GMT

#2204

On August 06 2011 04:53 Titorelli wrote:

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LOL really? Someone called the best Russian player a disgrace for Russia? :D

Yes a fan of Bratok actually hehe. He wasnt happy with his matches against Stephano it seems!

Hondelul

1999 Posts

August 05 2011 19:58 GMT

#2205

On August 06 2011 03:38 Pirat6662001 wrote:

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for a Russian? srsly, you have to realize that we dont give those kinds of promises if we are not ready to deliver (during times in history u'd get shot for failing).

But he apologized

Perhaps he was a bit disappointed

Pirat6662001

Russian Federation949 Posts

August 05 2011 20:01 GMT

#2206

Little bit, but pumped for Dimaga vs Mana (promise not to go batshit crazy if he loses, but cant promise that if he wins)

Spitmode

Germany1510 Posts

August 05 2011 20:02 GMT

#2207

gonna be nizzle my nizzle

Ketch

Netherlands7285 Posts

August 05 2011 20:02 GMT

#2208

Ahw, finals delayed... at least 15 min

roflpie

Estonia93 Posts

August 05 2011 20:03 GMT

#2209

Why isn't the event on the sidebar?

BartPil

Poland27 Posts

August 05 2011 20:04 GMT

#2210

hi..
where is the stream.

can anyone help me out ?

DiaBoLuS

Germany1638 Posts

August 05 2011 20:04 GMT

#2211

On August 06 2011 05:03 roflpie wrote:
Why isn't the event on the sidebar?

because the event is "running" for 12 hours now i guess.

On August 06 2011 05:04 BartPil wrote:
hi..
where is the stream.

can anyone help me out ?

not up yet, 10 minutes.

Lokj

Netherlands439 Posts

August 05 2011 20:04 GMT

#2212

On August 06 2011 05:01 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Little bit, but pumped for Dimaga vs Mana (promise not to go batshit crazy if he loses, but cant promise that if he wins)

so, are you cheering for mana or dimaga?

lowkontrast

United States855 Posts

August 05 2011 20:05 GMT

#2213

On August 06 2011 05:04 BartPil wrote:
hi..
where is the stream.

can anyone help me out ?

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SETT TV

ellirc

Sweden3286 Posts

August 05 2011 20:05 GMT

#2214

On August 06 2011 05:03 roflpie wrote:
Why isn't the event on the sidebar?

Weird, stream is online playing SC2 main theme music.

http://i55.tinypic.com/29o0v2a.png

BartPil

Poland27 Posts

August 05 2011 20:05 GMT

#2215

can u send/paste a link ? plz

Lobo2me

Norway1213 Posts

August 05 2011 20:05 GMT

#2216

On August 06 2011 04:45 cheesemaster wrote:

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On August 06 2011 04:41 Zaxro wrote:

On August 06 2011 04:34 cheesemaster wrote:

On August 06 2011 04:29 Orzabal wrote:

On August 06 2011 04:05 wats0n wrote:

On August 06 2011 04:01 Schmexi wrote:

On August 06 2011 03:53 wats0n wrote:
Stephano is obviously a good player by why do people get so irrational when describing Idra?

The guy qualified for 3 open seasons of GSL and got top 8 in Code S. Just 2 months ago he won an MLG group with Thorzain, MC, Ret, and Select.

In the past three months, MLGx2, Dreamhack, and Homestory Cup Idra has won his group or placed 2nd and made it to the championship rounds of all those tournaments.

Obviously he isn't winning lately but he has admitted he isn't practicing at the moment. Why do people want to act like he's bad? And for the record, he beat Sen 2-0 in that lan tournament before the finals where Sen beat him.

Noone has said that he is bad, just that he is playing worse than he normally does which puts Stephano above him currently.

Actually several people have said Idra is bad. And my point is that Stephano is not playing better than Idra. He isn't winning tournaments but neither is Stephano so you can't put Stephano above him.

Getting 1st or 2nd of every group and making the championship rounds of every single MAJOR tournament the past three months is pretty good.

When someone is first in ELO rank, you can assume that he is winning tournaments.

ELO doesnt really have anything to do with winning tournaments, its about your skill in relation to other players skill (as i understand it)

OGStheSTC hasnt ever really won a tournament (as far as i know) in the past while and he was sitting near the top of the ELO for quite a while. I think the factor is the players you beat and their skill level. (anyone want to chime in and either call me an idiot or tell me im right?)

Elo doesn't factor in where the games are played. However winning tournaments is correlated with a high Elo because to win in a tournament you have to beat players with high Elos toward the end of the tournament. And oGsThestc has been placing well in online tournaments (like top 2s and wins in various FXOopens and Asia Championships) that most people on teamliquid aren't aware of and that is why he has good Elo scores in foreign and Korean databases.

I dont think i said it factors in where the games are played. I dont even see how the location (or tournament) where the games are played would factor into their skill whatsoever (unless it was super complex and compensated for jetlag LOL, jk)

unless you were responding to the person i quoted for that part.

Yea i know he has placed well in quite a few smaller tournaments my point was that you dont need to be winning alot of tournaments (placing first) to get a good ELO rating.

The thing is, he is winning a lot of tournaments. Many of the Europeans you might think come out of nowhere and take series against more well known players, are that good because they're playing against the other good Europeans every week in different cups. NA players don't really play in "small" 100 dollar cups that often, especially not the most known players, but that also reduces the level of play in those tournaments.

For example, Idra has 9 top 3 placements in TLPD, 4 gold (2 of them in showmatches) and 5 silver.
Stephano has 20 entries, 14 gold 2 silver 5 bronze.
Dimaga has 40 entries, 20 gold, 17 silver and 3 bronze.
Nerchio 49 entries, 31 golds and 18 silvers.
Kas has 59 entries, 37 gold 20 silver and 2 bronze.

EU has an advantage when it comes to ELO because of the huge amount of tournaments, but it's not like you can be master league and get a 2300 ELO just because you get to quarterfinals in most cups against other master league players.

HEROwithNOlegacy

United States850 Posts

August 05 2011 20:06 GMT

#2217

Where is the stream and why haven't biscuit or apollo tweeted about it etc.

Pirat6662001

Russian Federation949 Posts

August 05 2011 20:06 GMT

#2218

On August 06 2011 05:04 Lokj wrote:

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so, are you cheering for mana or dimaga?

Dimaga

even though Mana is an good player, but Dimaga is just too awesome of the guy.

Ludwigvan

Germany2371 Posts

August 05 2011 20:06 GMT

#2219

I have a wish:
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Dear god of Starcraft,
let there be good finals.
give MaNa the power to defeat his fearsome opponent.
Let the finals not become GSL finals.
This is EUROPE!
Ramen