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Stamper
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany148 Posts
August 03 2011 17:49 GMT
#301
Boxer vs Leenock in first round is just sad.
Want to see both in Code S.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
August 03 2011 17:49 GMT
#302
code a gets stronger and stronger
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
August 03 2011 17:49 GMT
#303
(A) FruitDealer vs Maru
(A) Banbanssu vs GanZi
(C) Yoda vs TheBest
(D) Luvsic vs Jjakji



(B) sC vs Extreme
(B) Tails vs Taeja
(B) DongRaeGu vs InCa
(B) anypro vs JYP

August 9th

(C) Tassadar vs Fenix
(D) MarineKing vs Hack
(C) BoxeR vs Leenock
(C) Dream vs Maka



(D) Jinro vs Lucky
(D)YuGiOh vs ThorZaIN
(A)SaSe vs Sniper
(A)Check vs NaNiwa

Most of the foreigners have compatible opponents so they should be able to win it.
-DRG will absolutely roll inca into code B.
-Cant wait for Boxer to dominate leenock but its a tricky one. My confidence vote is with boxer but leenock is a boss and can kick the emperor out
-jinro is an oddball. I wont be surprized if he loses but i hope he doesnt cos that wud almost certainly demotivate him and send him back to sweden
-MKP gonna have a run for his money with hack. sucks to see 2 good players face of in R1.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 03 2011 17:50 GMT
#304
Euh i was rooting rather for Leenock, he's code S material in my book + he's Zerg .., Then he faces Boxer of the bet, man hard to root for either, i'll just be a pussy and say may the best win.

Also Nani, hoping him to do well, and honestly i hope so much he stays in korea like Huk/Jinro.
Gsl needs a fresh Protoss, Nani is that person he's got skill dedication and the drive now i hope he get's the opertunity aswell.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 03 2011 17:51 GMT
#305
On August 04 2011 02:47 Frogsox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:42 bennyaus wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:36 Swiftly wrote:
btw you said lusvic>jjaki and btw jjaki is the guy that all killed FXO and is quoted by nshoseo's coach to be there best players and they have insane players in their roster i mean they have sage,seal, tassadar all rising stars and also san who has proved himself as a code s player


NSHoseo is the most overrated team right now. + Show Spoiler +
Basically the only player with results is San and he dropped out of Code S and A because he was average at best, pretty much demonstrating that he isn't/wasn't Code S quality. Jjakji looks to be their best from Korean Weekly and GSTL but it is way too early to call their team "insane players". Tassadar looked nothing more than an average random Korean toss. People just follow Artosis' hype like crazy..... I'll be pleasantly surprised on the day that we see Sage/Seal/et.al. get into Code A and actually show us how they are in Bo3, but for now all they have is Jjakji in my eyes.


Luvsic was quite impressive in his first Code A last tournament. I wouldn't be so quick to rule him out.


I will say that a lot of teams have underestimated NSHoSeo to their own peril, but I think that the longer their run goes on in the GSTL the more we have to believe that they're the real deal. From now on I don't think any team is going to take them lightly (except maybe StarTale because their Coach seems to be arrogant as hell and thinks Bomber can pull his ass out of the fire whenever he needs him). The thing is, it's not like they've gone on this run with tight wins or some luck, their players have consistently played extremely solid games with little to no mistakes.

I think you might be right say they're a little overrated, but that doesn't erase what they've done or how they've gone about achieving their wins.

If StarTale's coach is arrogant, I can't help but wonder what you think of IM's coach after that fiasco that was IM vs. FXO.
Frogsox
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia274 Posts
August 03 2011 17:51 GMT
#306
On August 04 2011 02:46 Megatronn wrote:
If inca cheeses DRG out I can't imagine the hate he is going to get.


Haha. DRG has some of the most intense/one eyed fans. I loved it when Rain dropped out from Code S and people immediately said that DRG should automatically get his spot.

Anyway, I don't know why people hate cheese so much. It's a high risk, high reward tactic and the player who committing to the cheese knows that. It's as much the "fault" of the player who doesn't pick up on the cheese and defend it properly.
sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 17:55:40
August 03 2011 17:52 GMT
#307
On August 04 2011 02:39 lizzard_warish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:25 sickoota wrote:
People are underrating Check and overrating Naniwa. Nani could win but Check is definitely favored.
No he isnt, Naninwa is one of the best protoss in the world and check is a mediocre korean zerg, so hes a "decent" foreign zerg. He's going to get rolled, the only reason there should be any doubt in your mind is that Naniwa is going to be jet lagged.

Naniwa is nowhere near a best Protoss in the world. Where have you ever got any indication that Nani can compete with Koreans atm (aside from PvP which is an entirely different animal). He got easily 2-0d by Moon at Dreamhack, and Check is much better than Moon. Guess there's nothing much to do but wait for the match but my money is 100% on Check, sry. Give him a couple seasons and Nani will start to be competitive but he's not good enough right now to make a deep run.
I could spend a while with that smile
Frogsox
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia274 Posts
August 03 2011 17:54 GMT
#308
On August 04 2011 02:51 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:47 Frogsox wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:42 bennyaus wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:36 Swiftly wrote:
btw you said lusvic>jjaki and btw jjaki is the guy that all killed FXO and is quoted by nshoseo's coach to be there best players and they have insane players in their roster i mean they have sage,seal, tassadar all rising stars and also san who has proved himself as a code s player


NSHoseo is the most overrated team right now. + Show Spoiler +
Basically the only player with results is San and he dropped out of Code S and A because he was average at best, pretty much demonstrating that he isn't/wasn't Code S quality. Jjakji looks to be their best from Korean Weekly and GSTL but it is way too early to call their team "insane players". Tassadar looked nothing more than an average random Korean toss. People just follow Artosis' hype like crazy..... I'll be pleasantly surprised on the day that we see Sage/Seal/et.al. get into Code A and actually show us how they are in Bo3, but for now all they have is Jjakji in my eyes.


Luvsic was quite impressive in his first Code A last tournament. I wouldn't be so quick to rule him out.


I will say that a lot of teams have underestimated NSHoSeo to their own peril, but I think that the longer their run goes on in the GSTL the more we have to believe that they're the real deal. From now on I don't think any team is going to take them lightly (except maybe StarTale because their Coach seems to be arrogant as hell and thinks Bomber can pull his ass out of the fire whenever he needs him). The thing is, it's not like they've gone on this run with tight wins or some luck, their players have consistently played extremely solid games with little to no mistakes.

I think you might be right say they're a little overrated, but that doesn't erase what they've done or how they've gone about achieving their wins.

If StarTale's coach is arrogant, I can't help but wonder what you think of IM's coach after that fiasco that was IM vs. FXO.


That wasn't good for IM, I'll agree with you on that. But then again, IM only had that one instance, I've seen 2-3 TL games where the StarTale coach basically said he doesn't think the opposition is going to challenge his team and he can always use Bomber at the end to win if he really needs him. Plus, he lets July get away with terrible creep spread which I can't imagine many other coaches would allow to continually occur.
Chise
Profile Joined December 2010
Japan507 Posts
August 03 2011 17:55 GMT
#309
My predictions:
+ Show Spoiler +
FruitDealer vs Maru (although I still like FruitDealer for his GSL1 run, I just don't think he's good enough to stay in GSL much longer)
Banbanssu vs GanZi
Yoda vs TheBest
Luvsic vs Jjakji
sC vs Extreme
Tails vs Taeja
DongRaeGu vs InCa
anypro vs JYP (anypro is overrated in my opinion)
Tassadar vs Fenix (haven't seen a whole lot from Fenix lately, but I don't think he can take on Tassadar)
MarineKing vs Hack (not sure on this one, but I could see Hack winning this)
BoxeR vs Leenock (this will be sad, no matter who wins )
Dream vs Maka
Jinro vs Lucky
YuGiOh vs ThorZaIN
SaSe vs Sniper
Check vs NaNiwa

I'm obviously biased towards foreigners. But I think everyone expect for Fenix at least has a chance to win.
Atlas247
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada318 Posts
August 03 2011 17:55 GMT
#310
Omg so many awesome things could happen

I want to believe that the round of 4 will be Naniwa vs DRG and Thorzain vs Boxer.

Windex Banana Lampshade
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 03 2011 17:57 GMT
#311
Naniwa is the best Protoss not practicing in Korea.

Check is within his beatable threshold.
We talkin about PRACTICE
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
August 03 2011 17:58 GMT
#312
Damn Boxer Leenock should be semis at least. The foreigners look pretty favorable over their opponents except for the case of Fenix. Check v Naniwa might be close but Nani will pull through I think.
DRG will crush Inca :D
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
August 03 2011 17:59 GMT
#313
looks like i'm staying up late august 10th.
slim pickens
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 03 2011 17:59 GMT
#314
Wow the foreigners all have very doable matchups, as well as Boxer and MKP! Can't wait for Code A :D
Chise
Profile Joined December 2010
Japan507 Posts
August 03 2011 17:59 GMT
#315
On August 04 2011 02:52 sickoota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:39 lizzard_warish wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:25 sickoota wrote:
People are underrating Check and overrating Naniwa. Nani could win but Check is definitely favored.
No he isnt, Naninwa is one of the best protoss in the world and check is a mediocre korean zerg, so hes a "decent" foreign zerg. He's going to get rolled, the only reason there should be any doubt in your mind is that Naniwa is going to be jet lagged.

Naniwa is nowhere near a best Protoss in the world. Where have you ever got any indication that Nani can compete with Koreans atm (aside from PvP which is an entirely different animal). He got easily 2-0d by Moon at Dreamhack, and Check is much better than Moon. Guess there's nothing much to do but wait for the match but my money is 100% on Check, sry. Give him a couple seasons and Nani will start to be competitive but he's not good enough right now to make a deep run.


While I agree that Naniwa is not the best Protoss in the world, he's not as bad as you think. Naniwa is a level above most foreigners. He consistently places high in foreign tournaments.
Of course, this doesn't mean that he'll just win Code A straight away, but he has the potential for some upsets in Code A.
Frogsox
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia274 Posts
August 03 2011 18:00 GMT
#316
On August 04 2011 02:57 mprs wrote:
Naniwa is the best Protoss not practicing in Korea.

Check is within his beatable threshold.


I think this is pretty true in this case. Naniwa mentioned at the HomeStory Cup that he thinks he'll learn a lot in Korea since he doesn't get much of a challenge in Europe anymore. He's got the higher up side by far compared to Check who's sat at a pretty constant level for most of SC2.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 03 2011 18:02 GMT
#317
On August 04 2011 02:54 Frogsox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:51 babylon wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:47 Frogsox wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:42 bennyaus wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:36 Swiftly wrote:
btw you said lusvic>jjaki and btw jjaki is the guy that all killed FXO and is quoted by nshoseo's coach to be there best players and they have insane players in their roster i mean they have sage,seal, tassadar all rising stars and also san who has proved himself as a code s player


NSHoseo is the most overrated team right now. + Show Spoiler +
Basically the only player with results is San and he dropped out of Code S and A because he was average at best, pretty much demonstrating that he isn't/wasn't Code S quality. Jjakji looks to be their best from Korean Weekly and GSTL but it is way too early to call their team "insane players". Tassadar looked nothing more than an average random Korean toss. People just follow Artosis' hype like crazy..... I'll be pleasantly surprised on the day that we see Sage/Seal/et.al. get into Code A and actually show us how they are in Bo3, but for now all they have is Jjakji in my eyes.


Luvsic was quite impressive in his first Code A last tournament. I wouldn't be so quick to rule him out.


I will say that a lot of teams have underestimated NSHoSeo to their own peril, but I think that the longer their run goes on in the GSTL the more we have to believe that they're the real deal. From now on I don't think any team is going to take them lightly (except maybe StarTale because their Coach seems to be arrogant as hell and thinks Bomber can pull his ass out of the fire whenever he needs him). The thing is, it's not like they've gone on this run with tight wins or some luck, their players have consistently played extremely solid games with little to no mistakes.

I think you might be right say they're a little overrated, but that doesn't erase what they've done or how they've gone about achieving their wins.

If StarTale's coach is arrogant, I can't help but wonder what you think of IM's coach after that fiasco that was IM vs. FXO.


That wasn't good for IM, I'll agree with you on that. But then again, IM only had that one instance, I've seen 2-3 TL games where the StarTale coach basically said he doesn't think the opposition is going to challenge his team and he can always use Bomber at the end to win if he really needs him. Plus, he lets July get away with terrible creep spread which I can't imagine many other coaches would allow to continually occur.

Well, to be fair, Bomber is their ace, and he's on a team that is deep but not that deep. After Bomber, you have July (who is easy to snipe), and then you have ... Ace and Squirtle, I guess, but they're not that great, as much as I do like them. I mean, what are you going to say? "Well, if the opponent's doing well, we'll just send out Bomber and hope we don't roll over and die" doesn't sound very confident to me, and I'd be worried if a coach said that before a teamleague match.

Not to mention, Choya pretty much thinks the same way. "If we're in any trouble, I'll just send out sC to all-kill the other team." And MVP, the one man team, functions exactly in that manner (and I'm sure the MVP coach thinks like that simply because it works, lol).

July's creep spread does make me a sad panda though.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 03 2011 18:02 GMT
#318
On August 04 2011 02:59 Chise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:52 sickoota wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:39 lizzard_warish wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:25 sickoota wrote:
People are underrating Check and overrating Naniwa. Nani could win but Check is definitely favored.
No he isnt, Naninwa is one of the best protoss in the world and check is a mediocre korean zerg, so hes a "decent" foreign zerg. He's going to get rolled, the only reason there should be any doubt in your mind is that Naniwa is going to be jet lagged.

Naniwa is nowhere near a best Protoss in the world. Where have you ever got any indication that Nani can compete with Koreans atm (aside from PvP which is an entirely different animal). He got easily 2-0d by Moon at Dreamhack, and Check is much better than Moon. Guess there's nothing much to do but wait for the match but my money is 100% on Check, sry. Give him a couple seasons and Nani will start to be competitive but he's not good enough right now to make a deep run.


While I agree that Naniwa is not the best Protoss in the world, he's not as bad as you think. Naniwa is a level above most foreigners. He consistently places high in foreign tournaments.
Of course, this doesn't mean that he'll just win Code A straight away, but he has the potential for some upsets in Code A.

I think Naniwa is the best foreigner right now. He could beat anyone he want tbh, he 2-1 IdrA easily in MLG, place highest as non-korean in that MLG too.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 03 2011 18:02 GMT
#319
On August 04 2011 02:51 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 02:47 Frogsox wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:42 bennyaus wrote:
On August 04 2011 02:36 Swiftly wrote:
btw you said lusvic>jjaki and btw jjaki is the guy that all killed FXO and is quoted by nshoseo's coach to be there best players and they have insane players in their roster i mean they have sage,seal, tassadar all rising stars and also san who has proved himself as a code s player


NSHoseo is the most overrated team right now. + Show Spoiler +
Basically the only player with results is San and he dropped out of Code S and A because he was average at best, pretty much demonstrating that he isn't/wasn't Code S quality. Jjakji looks to be their best from Korean Weekly and GSTL but it is way too early to call their team "insane players". Tassadar looked nothing more than an average random Korean toss. People just follow Artosis' hype like crazy..... I'll be pleasantly surprised on the day that we see Sage/Seal/et.al. get into Code A and actually show us how they are in Bo3, but for now all they have is Jjakji in my eyes.


Luvsic was quite impressive in his first Code A last tournament. I wouldn't be so quick to rule him out.


I will say that a lot of teams have underestimated NSHoSeo to their own peril, but I think that the longer their run goes on in the GSTL the more we have to believe that they're the real deal. From now on I don't think any team is going to take them lightly (except maybe StarTale because their Coach seems to be arrogant as hell and thinks Bomber can pull his ass out of the fire whenever he needs him). The thing is, it's not like they've gone on this run with tight wins or some luck, their players have consistently played extremely solid games with little to no mistakes.

I think you might be right say they're a little overrated, but that doesn't erase what they've done or how they've gone about achieving their wins.

If StarTale's coach is arrogant, I can't help but wonder what you think of IM's coach after that fiasco that was IM vs. FXO.


New guys of IM got xp in the booth nothing wrong with it, why is that arrogant it's not like QXC was a code S champion. QXC played like he never did before and i doubt he ever will do so again. It's true IM did not expect that (but who did ?) but i am sure they would not be mad if they lost anyway, they took that opertunity to use the new guys the greens so they develop mentaly. And they did, there is no doubt they will move on to the next round, IM is the best team in the world.
-Aura-
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States209 Posts
August 03 2011 18:04 GMT
#320
NO Jinro and Thorzain together! NONONONO
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Liquid get more Terrans please...
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