On August 04 2011 02:36 Swiftly wrote:
btw you said lusvic>jjaki and btw jjaki is the guy that all killed FXO and is quoted by nshoseo's coach to be there best players and they have insane players in their roster i mean they have sage,seal, tassadar all rising stars and also san who has proved himself as a code s player

NSHoseo is the most overrated team right now. + Show Spoiler +

Basically the only player with results is San and he dropped out of Code S and A because he was average at best, pretty much demonstrating that he isn't/wasn't Code S quality. Jjakji looks to be their best from Korean Weekly and GSTL but it is way too early to call their team "insane players". Tassadar looked nothing more than an average random Korean toss. People just follow Artosis' hype like crazy..... I'll be pleasantly surprised on the day that we see Sage/Seal/et.al. get into Code A and actually show us how they are in Bo3, but for now all they have is Jjakji in my eyes.

Luvsic was quite impressive in his first Code A last tournament. I wouldn't be so quick to rule him out.

I will say that a lot of teams have underestimated NSHoSeo to their own peril, but I think that the longer their run goes on in the GSTL the more we have to believe that they're the real deal. From now on I don't think any team is going to take them lightly (except maybe StarTale because their Coach seems to be arrogant as hell and thinks Bomber can pull his ass out of the fire whenever he needs him). The thing is, it's not like they've gone on this run with tight wins or some luck, their players have consistently played extremely solid games with little to no mistakes.

I think you might be right say they're a little overrated, but that doesn't erase what they've done or how they've gone about achieving their wins.

If StarTale's coach is arrogant, I can't help but wonder what you think of IM's coach after that fiasco that was IM vs. FXO.

New guys of IM got xp in the booth nothing wrong with it, why is that arrogant it's not like QXC was a code S champion. QXC played like he never did before and i doubt he ever will do so again. It's true IM did not expect that (but who did ?) but i am sure they would not be mad if they lost anyway, they took that opertunity to use the new guys the greens so they develop mentaly. And they did, there is no doubt they will move on to the next round, IM is the best team in the world.

Nahhh, it was pretty arrogant to send out the third guy, and I really don't think you can argue otherwise. Sending out two people at the front who need experience is fine. Sending out three when you're two down? Not a good decision. The coach thought that MVP could clean up and he didn't.

Not saying that he's a bad coach, but that was definitely bad coaching decision brought on by a hefty dose of overconfidence.

On August 04 2011 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:

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I think Naniwa is the best foreigner right now. He could beat anyone he want tbh, he 2-1 IdrA easily in MLG, place highest as non-korean in that MLG too.

Sen would like to have a word with you about being the best foreigner. And, really, is 2-1ing IdrA really indicative of anything these days?

.Mystic

Canada486 Posts

August 03 2011 18:10 GMT

#324

like why leenock vs boxer first round... leenock has the worst luck...but i think leenock will win
second session is stacked and you guys actually haven't seen JYP replays, he is gosu like puma, watch him as an upcoming code s player
fruitdealer pls dont lose to 12yr old kid...

Zane

Romania3916 Posts

August 03 2011 18:10 GMT

#325

On August 04 2011 02:46 Megatronn wrote:
If inca cheeses DRG out I can't imagine the hate he is going to get.

TheBest cheesing DRG would be even better but sadly they don't play in the first round so it wouldn't matter.

yiodee

United States137 Posts

August 03 2011 18:11 GMT

#326

Am I the only one sad that the 3 foreigners are in the same side of the bracket? I mean 3 out of a group of 8, really gomtv?

I hope they all make it into code A even if the tournament design doesn't allow it :D

Yew

United States940 Posts

August 03 2011 18:13 GMT

#327

Oh man, I want sC to win but I love NEXTREME's id

IMBAkorean

Canada835 Posts

August 03 2011 18:14 GMT

#328

Predicitons

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(Z)FruitDealer vs (Z)Maru
(P)Banbanssu vs (T)GanZi
(P)SaSe vs (Z)Sniper
(Z)Check vs (P)NaNiwa

(T)sC vs (P)Extreme
Tails vs (T)Taeja
(Z)DongRaeGu vs (P)InCa
(P)anypro vs (P)JYP

(T)Tassadar vs (T)Fenix
(T)Yoda vs (T)TheBest
(T)BoxeR vs (Z)Leenock (either one in out of code a?!?!?!?!)
(P)DreAm vs (T)Maka
(T)Jinro vs (Z)Lucky
(Z)Luvsic vs (T)Jjakji
(Z)YuGiOh vs (T)ThorZaIN
(P)MarineKing vs (T)Hack

Kevan

Sweden2303 Posts

August 03 2011 18:16 GMT

#329

On August 04 2011 03:11 yiodee wrote:
Am I the only one sad that the 3 foreigners are in the same side of the bracket? I mean 3 out of a group of 8, really gomtv?

I hope they all make it into code A even if the tournament design doesn't allow it :D

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Global_StarCraft_II_League_August/Code_A

I think Naniwa can make it to the Ro8 and Thorzain will make to the Ro16 but then MKP/Hack is his next opponent. Jinro and Sase might win their first games but I don't think Fenix stands a chance.

Naniwa fighting!

Caphe

Vietnam10817 Posts

August 03 2011 18:22 GMT

#330

I think some people in this thread are too optimistic about how foreigners will do in this GSL Code A. Its the Koreans we are talking about here, I see a slim chance for more than 2 foreigners get past the first round.

constantqt

176 Posts

August 03 2011 18:25 GMT

#331

On August 04 2011 03:14 IMBAkorean wrote:
Predicitons

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mkp as a protoss?

Souljah

United States423 Posts

August 03 2011 18:27 GMT

#332

Dang.. Leenock vs Boxer is going to be tough. He can do it though.

integrity

United States1014 Posts

August 03 2011 18:29 GMT

#333

so many terrans

meep

United States1699 Posts

August 03 2011 18:30 GMT

#334

Poor Leenock, can never catch a break. Also DRG YEEEEEEAAAAAH

KillAudio

1364 Posts

August 03 2011 18:32 GMT

#335

It will be huge if Thorzain knocks MKP out of GSL.

Zinthar

United States394 Posts

August 03 2011 18:34 GMT

#336

On August 04 2011 03:10 Zane wrote:

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TheBest cheesing DRG would be even better but sadly they don't play in the first round so it wouldn't matter.

DRG is about as cheeseproof as Zerg's come. He's very good about scouting/defending.

Zinthar

United States394 Posts

August 03 2011 18:35 GMT

#337

On August 04 2011 03:32 KillAudio wrote:
It will be huge if Thorzain knocks MKP out of GSL.

He can't knock him out because they wouldn't play in the first round. If Thorzain and MKP meet in Round 2, which is possible, they both have guaranteed Code A spots for the following season already. They would be playing for a spot in the up/down matches.

Tobon

United States372 Posts

August 03 2011 18:36 GMT

#338

Nearly deserving of $10 million or death polls, they are so favored:
GanZi, DongRaeGu, Tassadar (sorry Fenix, I want you to win!), Jjakji.

Clear favorites:
sC, anypro, Yoda, ThorZaIN, MarineKing

I have hope:
FruitDealer, SaSe, NaNiwa, Tails, BoxeR, Maka, Jinro

NotSorry

United States6722 Posts

August 03 2011 18:37 GMT

#339

Very interesting draws for the bracket in my head almost every match is very one sided besides mkp vs hack