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On August 02 2011 19:20 StyLeD wrote:TheBest would wipe the floor at MLG. He'd probably only lose to another Korean.
I doubt that very much...
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On August 02 2011 19:18 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 19:11 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 19:01 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:58 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:57 -Zoda- wrote:On August 02 2011 18:53 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:50 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:47 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:32 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:28 Sina92 wrote:
KR silver = Diamond US / Plat EU Not true at all, diamond and under is just as terrible in KR as it is anywhere else. platinum KR is masters NA I'm master on NA and I think diamond in KR is extremely easy. unfair to judge a server when you've only just started recently What about people judging the server while then don't even play on it ? if you're referring to me, i've been playing on KR server since ladder season 1 Here's a diamond Terran I just played. ![[image loading]](http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/repimgs/repimg-33-224326.jpg) He is worse than master league players on NA for sure. Read my post above. You cant judge a server when you only recently started To be fair you haven't provided any evidence at all that the Korean server below Masters is any better than NA, so I don't know how you can criticize him. At least he's trying to show some evidence. And then the other guy up there is Diamond in both... so... ??
What evidence do you think is best to provide in this case? People so far have suggested I get a platinum korean player to play on NA/EU ladder, which I cannot honestly provide. I'm not going to be selectively uploading biased replays either.
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On August 02 2011 19:21 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 19:18 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 19:13 tomatriedes wrote:On August 02 2011 19:10 Sina92 wrote:On August 02 2011 19:09 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 19:07 Giku wrote:On August 02 2011 19:04 Mairu wrote:On August 02 2011 19:01 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:58 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:57 -Zoda- wrote:
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What about people judging the server while then don't even play on it ? if you're referring to me, i've been playing on KR server since ladder season 1 Here's a diamond Terran I just played. He is worse than master league players on NA for sure. I don't really think one replay is conclusive evidence for anything. I actually want to know now.. Like, I think most agree: KR >>> EU > NA , but I wonder indeed what a Platinum KR can do on other servers.. and vice versa..  Here's a platinum zerg on KR: ![[image loading]](http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/repimgs/repimg-33-224327.jpg) He has about half the supply, total bases, and drones I would expect from a NA master. ONE replay? Seriously, ONE replay? A few replays don't really prove much because plenty of people can cheese their way into higher leagues. We need someone to play both servers for six months at the same rate and see what division they end up in. If you watch the replay, even people who 6 pool their way to masters on NA have better macro than the platinum zerg I posted -_- I play Protoss and I'm consistently getting 50-100% more supply than my diamond opponents in the games where I don't feel like 4 gating. For reference, in equal skill games Zerg should max when Toss is at 150 and Terran should max when Toss is at 180. So would you say that KR is completely equal in skill level to NA based on your experience?
Someone didn't read it properly. No one is denying top pros in Korea are miles ahead of foreigners. But for the people who play it recreationally (eg. below Masters) there's no difference. And that logically also makes sense if you believe that Korean pros are better because of the practice time they put into the game - casual players have no such dedication in general so why should they be miles ahead of their NA counterparts?
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On August 02 2011 19:22 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 19:21 tomatriedes wrote:On August 02 2011 19:18 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 19:13 tomatriedes wrote:On August 02 2011 19:10 Sina92 wrote:On August 02 2011 19:09 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 19:07 Giku wrote:On August 02 2011 19:04 Mairu wrote:On August 02 2011 19:01 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:58 b_unnies wrote:
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if you're referring to me, i've been playing on KR server since ladder season 1 Here's a diamond Terran I just played. He is worse than master league players on NA for sure. I don't really think one replay is conclusive evidence for anything. I actually want to know now.. Like, I think most agree: KR >>> EU > NA , but I wonder indeed what a Platinum KR can do on other servers.. and vice versa.. Here's a platinum zerg on KR: He has about half the supply, total bases, and drones I would expect from a NA master. ONE replay? Seriously, ONE replay? A few replays don't really prove much because plenty of people can cheese their way into higher leagues. We need someone to play both servers for six months at the same rate and see what division they end up in. If you watch the replay, even people who 6 pool their way to masters on NA have better macro than the platinum zerg I posted -_- I play Protoss and I'm consistently getting 50-100% more supply than my diamond opponents in the games where I don't feel like 4 gating. For reference, in equal skill games Zerg should max when Toss is at 150 and Terran should max when Toss is at 180. So would you say that KR is completely equal in skill level to NA based on your experience? Did you just completely ignore the thread or discussion then quote him while making a baseless accusation? He is saying below masters the difference isn't that big.
It was a question not a baseless accusation. Maybe I didn't phrase it well then let me try again-
Based on your experience, would a player who is in platinum in NA likely to end up in platinum in Korea assuming they play a similar number of games?
I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely curious about this because I did find the KR server harder when I played and I'm surprised than iamke55 didn't find this to be so.
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On August 02 2011 19:26 dubRa wrote:
did wolf say: "Wolf and I will be casting" lol
Nah, it's Doa.
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i am glad zenex hack got in
. I alsmot beat him on the ladder this week .. base trade both flew our cc =) he won tough gg
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On August 02 2011 19:26 b_unnies wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 19:18 FairForever wrote:On August 02 2011 19:11 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 19:01 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:58 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:57 -Zoda- wrote:On August 02 2011 18:53 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:50 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:47 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:32 iamke55 wrote:
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Not true at all, diamond and under is just as terrible in KR as it is anywhere else. platinum KR is masters NA I'm master on NA and I think diamond in KR is extremely easy. unfair to judge a server when you've only just started recently What about people judging the server while then don't even play on it ? if you're referring to me, i've been playing on KR server since ladder season 1 Here's a diamond Terran I just played. He is worse than master league players on NA for sure. Read my post above. You cant judge a server when you only recently started To be fair you haven't provided any evidence at all that the Korean server below Masters is any better than NA, so I don't know how you can criticize him. At least he's trying to show some evidence. And then the other guy up there is Diamond in both... so... ?? What evidence do you think is best to provide in this case? People so far have suggested I get a platinum korean player to play on NA/EU ladder, which I cannot honestly provide. I'm not going to be selectively uploading biased replays either.
So your denial is baseless. That's a lot better. -_-'
EDIT: Sorry I didn't realize it was an actual question. Why don't you try? Or if not, if I could get an account (I'm mid-high masters NA) I would play KR server and see where I am after 50 games (shouldn't take me too much time, I've played about 225 ladder this season not including practice and whatnot).
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the best the best the bestfOu
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On August 02 2011 19:27 PrAeToR.FeNiX wrote:
i am glad zenex hack got in
. I alsmot beat him on the ladder this week .. base trade both flew our cc =) he won tough gg
edit: loL! nvm ._>
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Guys, we might have TheBest back in Code A.
I would really love to have TheBest play vs Naniwa in Code A.
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ZvP is so sad to watch. =[
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On August 02 2011 19:28 tymt wrote:
the best the best the bestfOu
FXOthebest
Wolf's team mate 
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On August 02 2011 19:22 shannn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 19:15 Titorelli wrote:On August 02 2011 19:15 baoluvboa wrote:On August 02 2011 19:14 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
I hope a TSL player qualify. They really had it tough. yea me too their coach is a really nice guy (if anyone watched the hyung joong show, he is the tall skinny one) and i love killer and clide What kind of show is that? Im curious.. Hyungjoon becomes a progamer. It's some show about some kpop artist who goofs around and wants to become a progamer by winning Courage (a tournament which will give u a progaming license if u manage to win the tournament, to put it easily in perspective it's like if some amateur below diamond wants to qualify for code A). TSL's coach is also known as mama bear. The show had MKP in it as well briefly. MC as well I think since I know he was on MBC but not sure if he quite before or after the show.
So its like the Oldboy show with Nal_rA but "only" with Courage qualifier and not Starleague? Is it worth watching? I really loved the Oldboy show but because Nal_rA was such a funny guy in there.
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On August 02 2011 19:26 sjperera wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 19:20 StyLeD wrote:On August 02 2011 19:18 sjperera wrote:
theBEST!?!??!! theBEST?!?!! oh no!
TheBest would wipe the floor at MLG. He'd probably only lose to another Korean. I doubt that very much...
Rain was considered a cheeser by pretty much everyone in the GSL, even Nestea, and he got 5th/6th place at MLG while only losing to Koreans.
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On August 02 2011 19:27 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 19:26 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 19:18 FairForever wrote:On August 02 2011 19:11 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 19:01 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:58 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:57 -Zoda- wrote:On August 02 2011 18:53 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:50 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:47 b_unnies wrote:
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platinum KR is masters NA I'm master on NA and I think diamond in KR is extremely easy. unfair to judge a server when you've only just started recently What about people judging the server while then don't even play on it ? if you're referring to me, i've been playing on KR server since ladder season 1 Here's a diamond Terran I just played. He is worse than master league players on NA for sure. Read my post above. You cant judge a server when you only recently started To be fair you haven't provided any evidence at all that the Korean server below Masters is any better than NA, so I don't know how you can criticize him. At least he's trying to show some evidence. And then the other guy up there is Diamond in both... so... ?? What evidence do you think is best to provide in this case? People so far have suggested I get a platinum korean player to play on NA/EU ladder, which I cannot honestly provide. I'm not going to be selectively uploading biased replays either. So your denial is baseless. That's a lot better. -_-'
Baseless how? he barely played KR server. I've played it for a long time
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That was really cool having happyzerg talking through his games, hopefully a great experience for him ^^
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On August 02 2011 19:26 b_unnies wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 19:18 FairForever wrote:On August 02 2011 19:11 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 19:01 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:58 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:57 -Zoda- wrote:On August 02 2011 18:53 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:50 iamke55 wrote:On August 02 2011 18:47 b_unnies wrote:On August 02 2011 18:32 iamke55 wrote:
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Not true at all, diamond and under is just as terrible in KR as it is anywhere else. platinum KR is masters NA I'm master on NA and I think diamond in KR is extremely easy. unfair to judge a server when you've only just started recently What about people judging the server while then don't even play on it ? if you're referring to me, i've been playing on KR server since ladder season 1 Here's a diamond Terran I just played. He is worse than master league players on NA for sure. Read my post above. You cant judge a server when you only recently started To be fair you haven't provided any evidence at all that the Korean server below Masters is any better than NA, so I don't know how you can criticize him. At least he's trying to show some evidence. And then the other guy up there is Diamond in both... so... ?? What evidence do you think is best to provide in this case? People so far have suggested I get a platinum korean player to play on NA/EU ladder, which I cannot honestly provide. I'm not going to be selectively uploading biased replays either.
How can my replay be biased when you are talking about platinum players and I uploaded a game with a diamond player? If anything that's biased in your favor.
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john the caster! yes please!
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On August 02 2011 19:29 pookadin wrote:FXOthebest Wolf's team mate
Aww did he switch teams? Don't tell me I've just dreamt up that he was on fOu. 
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