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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
August 05 2011 14:35 GMT
#2881
On August 05 2011 23:34 Genie1 wrote:
Most of the crowd leaving before it is over shows that SC2 is not well liked at all in Korea. It's going to be a long time before SC2 catches on in Korea.

Pretty hard to outshine BW indeed and it's mostly the PLAYERS that makes the FANS dedicated FLASH JAEDONG all those great players unless they go sc2 which i hope they wont :< it would be hard for sc2 to try to take over
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
August 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#2882
Lol you guys its a showmatch and Yellow did pretty good. Let me say this tell me witch zerg won vs hellion fe with blue flame with marines and hellion drop in MLG? So think before you trash talk.....
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
August 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#2883
Boxer used some pretty legit strats considering yellow has extremely little experience with the units, etc, but played them half heartedly and slowing the pressure when yellow was in a bad position. Basically, it was a silly and fun set of games between a high level terran and a former bw player who lacks game knowledge and ran almost purely on his basic bw knowledge.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
August 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#2884
Is it just me or does korean just sound, like it is spoke REALLY fast?
Johndarke
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
August 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#2885
Why is there so much complaining? Right... intarwebz.

This was fun to see; Boxer mostly just being silly. His ridiculously cheesy grin on that first bunker rush was priceless. I was not disappointed but maybe it's because my expectations on the level of play were not ultra-high.
Leenock, TheSTC, MC, MVP, Boxer HWAITING!!!!!!!
ZergZingZing
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)119 Posts
August 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#2886
On August 05 2011 23:29 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 23:26 ReasonSC2 wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:21 Ocedic wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:18 ReasonSC2 wrote:
This is really bad for increasing the popularity for starcraft 2 in korea
the games are really really boring and bad....

and there are tons of starcraft: bw fans here atm and this was THE chance to show them
that Starcraft 2 is more fun and can be better than bw....

They need to have a game between Nestea and MC or Nestea and Bomber right NOW!
on STAGE!!!!!!


Uh, if you never played or watched SC2 (like the BW players you speak of,) then you wouldn't know how high level play can get. And BW players aren't braindead. They know Yellow hasn't played this much. I highly doubt they were expecting Jaedong vs Flash in SC2.


I'm saying that there are a lot of ppl / gamers in korea who are not interested in SC2
SC2 is pretty damn unpopular in Korea compared to BW
and this was the chance to get more players to convert to SC2 and BW

and yes even though they didn't expect a super high level game,
if they see a boring game they will simply continue to think that SC2 is an inferior game
compared to BW


You're missing the point. The only reason this is boring is because we (as regular SC2 viewers) are used to very high level play and know the intricacies of SC2. The bad play from Yellow is from not knowing what the units do or what upgrades exist, etc. His actual mechanics are fine.


You are missing the point.
Hardcore BW fans and BW players are used to super high level play from Pro BW players (such as flash, jaedong, and many more) and this game probably won't satisfy them...
(I'm actually reading posts on Korean BW / SC2 forum and all I see is ppl talking trash on SC2 lol after watching this show match)
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2887
On August 05 2011 23:36 zocktol wrote:
Is it just me or does korean just sound, like it is spoke REALLY fast?

WPM = words per minute they have it
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 14:37:59
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2888
On August 05 2011 23:33 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 23:31 snafoo wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:29 ReasonSC2 wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:24 Tyree wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:18 ReasonSC2 wrote:
This is really bad for increasing the popularity for starcraft 2 in korea
the games are really really boring and bad....

and there are tons of starcraft: bw fans here atm and this was THE chance to show them
that Starcraft 2 is more fun and can be better than bw....



You are sadly assuming that koreans a bunch of dumbasses, each and every one of them. They know its is just a showmatch, its suppose to be fun. It is why they have friendly banter, it is why there is so much chatting and laughing.

Those BW fans may have bias towards their own game but they also are not stupid enough to judge a entire game based on a simple showmatch between old rivals, one player who probably does not even own a copy of the game.



Doesn't matter a lot of casual gamers / bw players (who don't follow sc2 at all)
want to see a good game even though they were expecting a bad game (because it is a show match between a pro vs a gold level player)

Doesn't hurt to give them a impressive game to show that SC2 is indeed a very fun game

I'm not saying they will be judging the whole game based on this game
they are already judging SC2 and they are judging it pretty badly lol
so I'm just saying this was a really good chance to show them a really good game of sc2
to hardcore / oldschool BW fans


if people judge anything about SC2 based on these games they're probably kind of braindead anyway -.-

there's loads of special bw events anyway, like the allstars matches and offrace stuff, this is the same thing....



If people don't follow the SC2 scene and community and it's literally their first tune in, they won't know what to expect. So some may well take it seriously :/


Why are people so worried about impressing anyone? Fact is, Boxer vs Yellow is NOT top tier SC2, so why would we pretend it is? If someone watched this game and went "these people suck! this game sucks!" then so be it (but I highly doubt any significant number of viewers did that.)

If someone were to take the time to educate themselves about top level SC2 and watch some GSL games, then they could see better play.


On August 05 2011 23:36 ReasonSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 23:29 Ocedic wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:26 ReasonSC2 wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:21 Ocedic wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:18 ReasonSC2 wrote:
This is really bad for increasing the popularity for starcraft 2 in korea
the games are really really boring and bad....

and there are tons of starcraft: bw fans here atm and this was THE chance to show them
that Starcraft 2 is more fun and can be better than bw....

They need to have a game between Nestea and MC or Nestea and Bomber right NOW!
on STAGE!!!!!!


Uh, if you never played or watched SC2 (like the BW players you speak of,) then you wouldn't know how high level play can get. And BW players aren't braindead. They know Yellow hasn't played this much. I highly doubt they were expecting Jaedong vs Flash in SC2.


I'm saying that there are a lot of ppl / gamers in korea who are not interested in SC2
SC2 is pretty damn unpopular in Korea compared to BW
and this was the chance to get more players to convert to SC2 and BW

and yes even though they didn't expect a super high level game,
if they see a boring game they will simply continue to think that SC2 is an inferior game
compared to BW


You're missing the point. The only reason this is boring is because we (as regular SC2 viewers) are used to very high level play and know the intricacies of SC2. The bad play from Yellow is from not knowing what the units do or what upgrades exist, etc. His actual mechanics are fine.


You are missing the point.
Hardcore BW fans and BW players are used to super high level play from Pro BW players (such as flash, jaedong, and many more) and this game probably won't satisfy them...
(I'm actually reading posts on Korean BW / SC2 forum and all I see is ppl talking trash on SC2 lol after watching this show match)


Those kind of people probably trash talk SC2 anyways. What do you expect?
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2889
On August 05 2011 23:32 ReasonSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 23:31 karpo wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:29 ReasonSC2 wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:24 Tyree wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:18 ReasonSC2 wrote:
This is really bad for increasing the popularity for starcraft 2 in korea
the games are really really boring and bad....

and there are tons of starcraft: bw fans here atm and this was THE chance to show them
that Starcraft 2 is more fun and can be better than bw....



You are sadly assuming that koreans a bunch of dumbasses, each and every one of them. They know its is just a showmatch, its suppose to be fun. It is why they have friendly banter, it is why there is so much chatting and laughing.

Those BW fans may have bias towards their own game but they also are not stupid enough to judge a entire game based on a simple showmatch between old rivals, one player who probably does not even own a copy of the game.



Doesn't matter a lot of casual gamers / bw players (who don't follow sc2 at all)
want to see a good game even though they were expecting a bad game (because it is a show match between a pro vs a gold level player)

Doesn't hurt to give them a impressive game to show that SC2 is indeed a very fun game

I'm not saying they will be judging the whole game based on this game
they are already judging SC2 and they are judging it pretty badly lol
so I'm just saying this was a really good chance to show them a really good game of sc2
to hardcore / oldschool BW fans


A 3rd time. BW lovers wont be impressed even IF Yellow practiced a month. The level of those games will not be close to high level BW. Boxer and Yellow are famous and old school, you need people like Puma/MC/Nestea for really high level games to impress BW fans.



YEA THAT'S WHAT I SAID IN THE FIRST POST
Since this showmatch will / have not impressed the hardcore BW fans
THEY should've shown Nada / July (BW players) or Nestea/MC/MVP pro match on Big Stage
where SC2 lovers & BW fans are watching together!!


You can't impress a BW fan with SC2. A gap of dozen years of skill, refinement and history you can't just outclass with a single showmatch.
You can, however, impress people with showing players all fans know and love by putting up a great showmatch.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2890
YellOw doesn't look pleased with BoxeR using the hyung approach.
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2891
haha, boxers not gonna give up
thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2892
On August 05 2011 23:36 zocktol wrote:
Is it just me or does korean just sound, like it is spoke REALLY fast?
Doesn't every language sound that way when you don't understand it? I know I feel the same about German because I only know a few words.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2893
Another show coming in 20 minutes - Jeremy from PurePwnage commentating SC2
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2894
I just wish the more Hardcore BW fans would realize that BW has had its glorydays, it'll never get bigger than it has been.

Also lol at YelloWs face when BoxeR said he should get better :D

Disssssssssssssssssssssssssss
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2895
yellow looks somewhat bored lol
wat
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2896
Yellow confirmed for mad.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#2897
I hope people realise zerg is tough to learn at the start when you don't know what to do as zerg and how to react to opponent's builds. It's not like toss and terran where you can perform at a certain level if you have good mechanics.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 05 2011 14:38 GMT
#2898
Yellow's suffering from memory loss ):
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 05 2011 14:38 GMT
#2899
On August 05 2011 23:36 ReasonSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 23:29 Ocedic wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:26 ReasonSC2 wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:21 Ocedic wrote:
On August 05 2011 23:18 ReasonSC2 wrote:
This is really bad for increasing the popularity for starcraft 2 in korea
the games are really really boring and bad....

and there are tons of starcraft: bw fans here atm and this was THE chance to show them
that Starcraft 2 is more fun and can be better than bw....

They need to have a game between Nestea and MC or Nestea and Bomber right NOW!
on STAGE!!!!!!


Uh, if you never played or watched SC2 (like the BW players you speak of,) then you wouldn't know how high level play can get. And BW players aren't braindead. They know Yellow hasn't played this much. I highly doubt they were expecting Jaedong vs Flash in SC2.


I'm saying that there are a lot of ppl / gamers in korea who are not interested in SC2
SC2 is pretty damn unpopular in Korea compared to BW
and this was the chance to get more players to convert to SC2 and BW

and yes even though they didn't expect a super high level game,
if they see a boring game they will simply continue to think that SC2 is an inferior game
compared to BW


You're missing the point. The only reason this is boring is because we (as regular SC2 viewers) are used to very high level play and know the intricacies of SC2. The bad play from Yellow is from not knowing what the units do or what upgrades exist, etc. His actual mechanics are fine.


You are missing the point.
Hardcore BW fans and BW players are used to super high level play from Pro BW players (such as flash, jaedong, and many more) and this game probably won't satisfy them...
(I'm actually reading posts on Korean BW / SC2 forum and all I see is ppl talking trash on SC2 lol after watching this show match)


Who on earth expected that this match would be the tipping point for BW players?

Did the 3D glasses and the comical banter not give that away?
Yargh
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
August 05 2011 14:38 GMT
#2900
People know these weren't really supposed to be serious games right, it's humorous and for entertainment and it accomplished that.

I had fun watching two of my favorite players play a game that I love.
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