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I wish HuK would have beat MC with crappy performance he gave us in RO8. HuK would not have lost to hongun.
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On July 21 2011 21:43 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:39 snailz wrote:On July 21 2011 21:35 Poopi wrote:On July 21 2011 21:34 snailz wrote:On July 21 2011 21:27 Ocedic wrote:On July 21 2011 21:22 TheKefka wrote:On July 21 2011 21:20 noddy wrote:
Rofl at the people saying MarineKing is overrated. Yeah, you make 3 finals by being overrated. I swear people are dumb sometimes.
He shouldn't have all-in'd there, he is the better player and should have won if he just played standard. Oh well. I really love to argue with MKP fanboys.He is overrated in the sense that people call him a God of terran where as he is not even the best terran on his team. Yea he made his way to 3 finals,but so did fruitdealer win a GSL but now he is just a average player now. You should relax instead of acting like an internet tough guy and talking trash about StarCraft players who are infinitely better than you. Life is more enjoyable that way. dude didnt even say mkp was terribad. he said he doesnt understand why is he so beloved when his playstyle is subpar in comparison with some other macro beasts. and honest to good, i also dislike his style. everybody bashes bitbybit, while foxer does similiar things and gets the fame for it. first two seasons he didnt do anything BUT allin. he got better, yeah, 60% in gsl speaks for itself. but in the long run i think he'll fade away. Which macro beasts? All these terrans that always queue-up scv lol? ogsNada, ogsTOP, sCfou... guys that shine when u give them some space (meaning when u go for FE also, and then u loose to a "race that needs to do dmg early on") Foxer-Nada game two seasons ago, foxer did wonders early game with marines, got super-super ahead, and then Nada just raped him. look that game up. that's what i mean when i say macro terran. Lol you are so funny. MKP used bio against bio tanks LOL. It should not even work, and it didn't worked. Just look some replays of him if you wanna see his "macro", he has beast macro even with high ping. Oh and he was 3-2 and 3-1 against sCfOu... The fact that he is the terran with the best control doesn't mean that he has not a good macro. His weakness is his "mental"/dealing with pressure / confidence not his macro or whatever.
"MKP used bio against biotanks LOL, it should not even work"
one week ago, Byun vs NaDa.
school'd. silence now.
(ps i didnt say he has bad macro, i said he doesnt rely on it, hence, doesnt get called macro beast like some of the other terrans do)
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On July 21 2011 21:44 sjperera wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:07 Asha` wrote:
MKP cheesing? No surprises there.
He's really fallen off on my favourite players list lately. never had him on mine... he cheesed from the beginning... everyone's complaining about MC's timing pushes but it's all MK love over everything else... he basically popularized the SCV-all in! got what he deserved today and the GSL Open Season 2 finals...
Boxer cheesed all the time in BW, yet he's still famous.
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I don't know, Hongun surprised us all. We can argue back and forth forever, but we'll never know how that would have went down.
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On July 21 2011 21:47 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:43 Poopi wrote:On July 21 2011 21:39 snailz wrote:On July 21 2011 21:35 Poopi wrote:On July 21 2011 21:34 snailz wrote:On July 21 2011 21:27 Ocedic wrote:On July 21 2011 21:22 TheKefka wrote:On July 21 2011 21:20 noddy wrote:
Rofl at the people saying MarineKing is overrated. Yeah, you make 3 finals by being overrated. I swear people are dumb sometimes.
He shouldn't have all-in'd there, he is the better player and should have won if he just played standard. Oh well. I really love to argue with MKP fanboys.He is overrated in the sense that people call him a God of terran where as he is not even the best terran on his team. Yea he made his way to 3 finals,but so did fruitdealer win a GSL but now he is just a average player now. You should relax instead of acting like an internet tough guy and talking trash about StarCraft players who are infinitely better than you. Life is more enjoyable that way. dude didnt even say mkp was terribad. he said he doesnt understand why is he so beloved when his playstyle is subpar in comparison with some other macro beasts. and honest to good, i also dislike his style. everybody bashes bitbybit, while foxer does similiar things and gets the fame for it. first two seasons he didnt do anything BUT allin. he got better, yeah, 60% in gsl speaks for itself. but in the long run i think he'll fade away. Which macro beasts? All these terrans that always queue-up scv lol? ogsNada, ogsTOP, sCfou... guys that shine when u give them some space (meaning when u go for FE also, and then u loose to a "race that needs to do dmg early on") Foxer-Nada game two seasons ago, foxer did wonders early game with marines, got super-super ahead, and then Nada just raped him. look that game up. that's what i mean when i say macro terran. Lol you are so funny. MKP used bio against bio tanks LOL. It should not even work, and it didn't worked. Just look some replays of him if you wanna see his "macro", he has beast macro even with high ping. Oh and he was 3-2 and 3-1 against sCfOu... The fact that he is the terran with the best control doesn't mean that he has not a good macro. His weakness is his "mental"/dealing with pressure / confidence not his macro or whatever. "MKP used bio against biotanks LOL, it should not even work" one week ago, Byun vs NaDa. school'd. silence now. (ps i didnt say he has bad macro, i said he doesnt rely on it, hence, doesnt get called macro beast like some of the other terrans do)
Since when pure mech = bio tank. Ok thx
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Even when Huk wins TL is full of QQ about various things 
Can't we all just be happy that Huk has got f*cking awesome?
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On July 21 2011 21:30 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:24 noddy wrote:On July 21 2011 21:22 TheKefka wrote:On July 21 2011 21:20 noddy wrote:
Rofl at the people saying MarineKing is overrated. Yeah, you make 3 finals by being overrated. I swear people are dumb sometimes.
He shouldn't have all-in'd there, he is the better player and should have won if he just played standard. Oh well. I really love to argue with MKP fanboys.He is overrated in the sense that people call him a God of terran where as he is not even the best terran on his team. Yea he made his way to 3 finals,but so did fruitdealer win a GSL but now he is just a average player now. You should really get banned for player bashing. I don't get how people who say anything bad about Liquid players or Idra get banned instantly but the mods don't care at all if it's about Korean players. Fruitdealer won a GSL a long time ago, MarineKing has been consistent ever since his first final appearance. Maybe you like arguing with "MKP fanboys" but you're ignorant and oblivious to actual results. He is still one of the best Terrans, he's better than anyone on oGs-TL with the exception of MC and even though that game didn't quite show it because of the build, I'm sure he would easily crush Huk in a bo5. He is the best Terran on his team. That's exactly what the other guy meant when he said that MKP fanboys overrate him. The best Terran on his team? Sorry, but there's already a Terran on Prime that actually won the Super Tournament, doing what MKP was never quite able to do. Better than anyone on oGs-TL? Players like TOP and NaDa could very well beg to differ. Not saying that they're definitely better than MKP, but you shouldn't be able to just boldly declare that MKP is obviously better than either of them. Again, that's what the other guy meant when he said that MKP fans overrate him.
Yeah I'm sure Nada and Top are better than MarineKing. Just like their results show.
MarineKing had to face off vs Nestea and then twice vs MVP back when MVP was absolutely unstoppable and didn't drop games.. so sorry that I'm not quite convinced Polt is better.
MarineKing has still been the most consistent Terran.
Anyway I'm gonna stop arguing since people are just going to get banned. My point at the start was that people saying a player who has been at the top of the food chain for a very, very long time is overrated is hilarious. When people say it about players like MMA/DRG I understand but someone who has reached the finals 3 times and then the ro4 in the ST.
You'd think he would have proven himself by now.
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On July 21 2011 21:48 Trowa127 wrote:Even when Huk wins TL is full of QQ about various things Can't we all just be happy that Huk has got f*cking awesome?
I completely agree wirth u! People always are arguing the off-topic things.
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On July 21 2011 21:46 tdt wrote:
I wish HuK would have beat MC with crappy performance he gave us in RO8. HuK would not have lost to hongun.
It was RO16, MC lost in RO8 to Hongun.
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On July 21 2011 21:40 Mioraka wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:38 canonised wrote:On July 21 2011 21:35 Mioraka wrote:On July 21 2011 21:32 Hephaistas wrote:On July 21 2011 21:05 Gamegene wrote:
T__________T.
I'm sorry but is anybody else teary eyed seeing a foreigner representing the best team in Korea in the ace match between two of the best teams in the GSL after so many years of Korean BW dominance?
HUK SMASH HIM!
T^T!!!!! Best team in korea? HAHA If 1/4 of the players from the most prestiges league in the world are in this team. Then yeah, this team is the best team in Korea. IM is definitely the best Korean team imo, I'd put their 4 best vs any team and bet on it statistically oGs has the most players in the best tournament, even after like 7 seasons. On the other hand if some one likes a team they can make w/e claims they want. Arguing about opinion is clearly a waste of time.
TheWinD (given, plus not in S anymore) and Inca shouldn't even count (Inca is such a one (maybe two) dimensional player). oGs also has like 6 more players then IM. I'm not a fanboy of IM (I do love MVP(player) however) I just honestly believe they easily are the top team. They've already won 2 matches without even playing Nestea or MVP.
and to be honest, I don't really think Ensnare is that good imo
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On July 21 2011 21:51 RockStarCrft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:48 Trowa127 wrote:Even when Huk wins TL is full of QQ about various things Can't we all just be happy that Huk has got f*cking awesome? I completely agree wirth u! People always are arguing the off-topic things.
Me three! I'm pumped that he won and just totally ignoring most of the posts here.
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On July 21 2011 21:49 noddy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:30 HolyArrow wrote:On July 21 2011 21:24 noddy wrote:On July 21 2011 21:22 TheKefka wrote:On July 21 2011 21:20 noddy wrote:
Rofl at the people saying MarineKing is overrated. Yeah, you make 3 finals by being overrated. I swear people are dumb sometimes.
He shouldn't have all-in'd there, he is the better player and should have won if he just played standard. Oh well. I really love to argue with MKP fanboys.He is overrated in the sense that people call him a God of terran where as he is not even the best terran on his team. Yea he made his way to 3 finals,but so did fruitdealer win a GSL but now he is just a average player now. You should really get banned for player bashing. I don't get how people who say anything bad about Liquid players or Idra get banned instantly but the mods don't care at all if it's about Korean players. Fruitdealer won a GSL a long time ago, MarineKing has been consistent ever since his first final appearance. Maybe you like arguing with "MKP fanboys" but you're ignorant and oblivious to actual results. He is still one of the best Terrans, he's better than anyone on oGs-TL with the exception of MC and even though that game didn't quite show it because of the build, I'm sure he would easily crush Huk in a bo5. He is the best Terran on his team. That's exactly what the other guy meant when he said that MKP fanboys overrate him. The best Terran on his team? Sorry, but there's already a Terran on Prime that actually won the Super Tournament, doing what MKP was never quite able to do. Better than anyone on oGs-TL? Players like TOP and NaDa could very well beg to differ. Not saying that they're definitely better than MKP, but you shouldn't be able to just boldly declare that MKP is obviously better than either of them. Again, that's what the other guy meant when he said that MKP fans overrate him. Yeah I'm sure Nada and Top are better than MarineKing. Just like their results show. MarineKing had to face off vs Nestea and then twice vs MVP back when MVP was absolutely unstoppable and didn't drop games.. so sorry that I'm not quite convinced Polt is better. MarineKing has still been the most consistent Terran.
Arrow if you think that because PoltPrime won 1 tournament against someone who choked under pressure, that makes him better then MKP a guy who crushed through people like MC, only to face MVP twice in the finals, and before that take Nestea to a nailbiting game 7 you are ... sigh i got to stop reading these tournament threads lol. Drives me crazy.
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On July 21 2011 21:42 Schmexi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:38 canonised wrote:On July 21 2011 21:35 Mioraka wrote:On July 21 2011 21:32 Hephaistas wrote:On July 21 2011 21:05 Gamegene wrote:
T__________T.
I'm sorry but is anybody else teary eyed seeing a foreigner representing the best team in Korea in the ace match between two of the best teams in the GSL after so many years of Korean BW dominance?
HUK SMASH HIM!
T^T!!!!! Best team in korea? HAHA If 1/4 of the players from the most prestiges league in the world are in this team. Then yeah, this team is the best team in Korea. IM is definitely the best Korean team imo, I'd put their 4 best vs any team and bet on it IM is probably the best team in GSTL when it comes to coaching and aces but overall oGs is the best team for individual leagues etc.
IM has 4 1st place titles in GSL to oGs 1. And they're about to get a 5th (or at least they should)
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On July 21 2011 21:52 Steamroller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:46 tdt wrote:
I wish HuK would have beat MC with crappy performance he gave us in RO8. HuK would not have lost to hongun. It was RO16, MC lost in RO8 to Hongun.
I think you misunderstand the statement. He meant Huk wouldn't have given a crappy performance in the Ro8. Which I kind of agree with. I was hoping Huk would have advanced also, to show that foreigners still have what it takes. Just kind of unfortunate that he lost and MC proceeded to lose in such a fashion.
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I think it's entertaining how everyone is acting as he would live in the prime teamhouse and know everything about their recent form! ^^ What if MKP totally dominated his teammates in the last few days/weeks? Stop whining around about who would have been better! Thats BS!
MKP is neve a bad choice anyways!
Aaaaaand: HUUUUUUUUUUUK! so gosu!
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On July 21 2011 21:56 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:52 Steamroller wrote:On July 21 2011 21:46 tdt wrote:
I wish HuK would have beat MC with crappy performance he gave us in RO8. HuK would not have lost to hongun. It was RO16, MC lost in RO8 to Hongun. I think you misunderstand the statement. He meant Huk wouldn't have given a crappy performance in the Ro8. Which I kind of agree with. I was hoping Huk would have advanced also, to show that foreigners still have what it takes. Just kind of unfortunate that he lost and MC proceeded to lose in such a fashion.
I don't see how people can say such crap with so much confidence. People can perform poorly at any point in a tournament. Also, what does it matter at which point in time you show a crappy performance? The later you show the better because hey, at least you made it further than you would have.
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On July 21 2011 21:53 adeptz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:51 RockStarCrft wrote:On July 21 2011 21:48 Trowa127 wrote:Even when Huk wins TL is full of QQ about various things Can't we all just be happy that Huk has got f*cking awesome? I completely agree wirth u! People always are arguing the off-topic things. Me three! I'm pumped that he won and just totally ignoring most of the posts here.
I concur.
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On July 21 2011 21:54 GoKu` wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:49 noddy wrote:On July 21 2011 21:30 HolyArrow wrote:On July 21 2011 21:24 noddy wrote:On July 21 2011 21:22 TheKefka wrote:On July 21 2011 21:20 noddy wrote:
Rofl at the people saying MarineKing is overrated. Yeah, you make 3 finals by being overrated. I swear people are dumb sometimes.
He shouldn't have all-in'd there, he is the better player and should have won if he just played standard. Oh well. I really love to argue with MKP fanboys.He is overrated in the sense that people call him a God of terran where as he is not even the best terran on his team. Yea he made his way to 3 finals,but so did fruitdealer win a GSL but now he is just a average player now. You should really get banned for player bashing. I don't get how people who say anything bad about Liquid players or Idra get banned instantly but the mods don't care at all if it's about Korean players. Fruitdealer won a GSL a long time ago, MarineKing has been consistent ever since his first final appearance. Maybe you like arguing with "MKP fanboys" but you're ignorant and oblivious to actual results. He is still one of the best Terrans, he's better than anyone on oGs-TL with the exception of MC and even though that game didn't quite show it because of the build, I'm sure he would easily crush Huk in a bo5. He is the best Terran on his team. That's exactly what the other guy meant when he said that MKP fanboys overrate him. The best Terran on his team? Sorry, but there's already a Terran on Prime that actually won the Super Tournament, doing what MKP was never quite able to do. Better than anyone on oGs-TL? Players like TOP and NaDa could very well beg to differ. Not saying that they're definitely better than MKP, but you shouldn't be able to just boldly declare that MKP is obviously better than either of them. Again, that's what the other guy meant when he said that MKP fans overrate him. Yeah I'm sure Nada and Top are better than MarineKing. Just like their results show. MarineKing had to face off vs Nestea and then twice vs MVP back when MVP was absolutely unstoppable and didn't drop games.. so sorry that I'm not quite convinced Polt is better. MarineKing has still been the most consistent Terran. Arrow if you think that because PoltPrime won 1 tournament against someone who choked under pressure, that makes him better then MKP a guy who crushed through people like MC, only to face MVP twice in the finals, and before that take Nestea to a nailbiting game 7 you are ... sigh i got to stop reading these tournament threads lol. Drives me crazy.
Polt has crushed through MC twice so far with a score of 4-0 i think. It's the current state that matters, atm Polt > MarineSlumpPrime
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Quit ya arguing.
Great games today, lots of macro games and loads of intensity.
SO glad that HuK managed to hold it out and win. Incredible micro at the beginning. gogogo!
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On July 21 2011 21:59 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 21:53 adeptz wrote:On July 21 2011 21:51 RockStarCrft wrote:On July 21 2011 21:48 Trowa127 wrote:Even when Huk wins TL is full of QQ about various things Can't we all just be happy that Huk has got f*cking awesome? I completely agree wirth u! People always are arguing the off-topic things. Me three! I'm pumped that he won and just totally ignoring most of the posts here. I concur.
Its just these threads always turn into some kind of off topic train wreck about whos good, whos slumping, whos the strongest on their team, when what we should be discussing is HUKKKK!
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