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Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
July 20 2011 12:46 GMT
#2381
Updated 5dolls stats.

Eunkyo - 20 wins, 14 losses, 2 players through.
Soomi - 17 wins, 14 losses, 1 player through.
Hyewon - 10 wins, 13 losses, 1 player through.
Chanmi/Hyoyoung - 14 wins, 16 losses, 0 players through.

Eunkyo: Byun/Hongun
Soomi: Nestea
Hyewon: Losira

So from that, finals should be Byun v HongUn. lol
Love is more fun than hate.
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 12:49:09
July 20 2011 12:47 GMT
#2382
On July 20 2011 21:37 kochujang wrote:
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On July 20 2011 21:30 justinpal wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:29 sp00n- wrote:
Wow, I thought for sure Byun was dead when he was down 2-0 specially since it looked like Bomber was just in another league then him.


Well, it certainly SOUNDED like that. But, if you watched the last three games on mute. You realize what really happened.

Haha, quote of the day. The bias of Artosis is sometimes painful to listen to.


I am not a fan of bomber, still bitter about how he beat MC in the group stages but those first two games he was just playing so good even i could see it. He made byun look like a some gold league noob, and with a player of byuns caliber that is just a testment to how good the play was. But byun played more consistently and bomber just got too cocky/ nerves or what ever as his play just was not up to the same level in those last 3 games.

And for people saying this is going to make it a onesided semi/ final, I would say byrn has comparable TvZ to bomber. So i think ether of them had at least decent odds on losira/ nestea.

As a nestea fan though i think he is going to take this GSL, I really think MC would of had the best chance of taking him out. Unless hongun can catch lighting twice and beat professor T.
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Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 20 2011 12:48 GMT
#2383
On July 20 2011 21:45 Deyster wrote:
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On July 20 2011 21:42 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there.

He's in constant pain due to wrist injury. Pain makes one very edgy, not to mention the injury is preventing him from practicing like he wants, which makes him frustrated.
At least that's why I think he's not happy lately despite his results.


He should get a dog too. This might cheer him up.
I've got moves like Jagger
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 20 2011 12:48 GMT
#2384
On July 20 2011 21:45 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Kind of tired of all the "bad ZvT comments" for losira at this point. He beat TOP 2-1, and beat TOP before that 3-1 in the SAGACity invitationals, the TOP that took out nestea last season. It's not his best matchup, but it's not like he'll get rolled by any mid code S terran. You have to be one of the best TvZers like sC and even though I like byuns style, nothing gives me the sign to show that zenio's ZvT is better than Losira's.


Well, I went and checked TLPD and Losira has a 41% winrate against T. So yeah it seems he is not that consistant in the MU. I still hope he and Nestea win. I want to see a ZvZ final for a change
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
July 20 2011 12:48 GMT
#2385
On July 20 2011 21:42 Pajegetc wrote:
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On July 20 2011 21:40 windsupernova wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:36 _vladimir_ wrote:
Why so much random hate comments about Hongun, yeah its expected that he lose from Nestea, but you people moan about him entering top4, like he is some random protoss who got there by accident, instead one of top3 protoss with best results in GSL, with double top4 and double top8..
Show some respect before making laughable comments, i know its sad that we will not see MC vs Nestea match that we all hoped for, but its a decent player who beat MC, and not some....(insert random insult)


Haha you are right, people are probably upset because Hongun said that his official PvP winrate was 0% and then he proceeded to win against MC



Lower expectations going in then bam!


Interestingly enough, HongUn never 4 gated until now and it was usually him on the other side of the 4 gate. I think he no longer cares about good games and just cares about making one last deep run.

heck, for all the hate in his series against MC, I think the fact that HongUn never 4 gates helped him in the sense that MC did not expect it because this is not HongUn's style.
Gameplay > Personality
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
July 20 2011 12:48 GMT
#2386
On July 20 2011 21:28 b_unnies wrote:
Wow. Byun's such a good friend of mine and this entire tournament i've been liquibetting against him and everytime he continues to advance.

Even last night byun admitted to me that he thought he would lose to Bomber. I'm picking this guy to win the Code S now.

You have to tell him to make a picture of him and his dog, and post it here on TL!
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 12:50:37
July 20 2011 12:49 GMT
#2387
Man i hope Zenex will promise Byun to let him raise a Dinosaur in the team house if he wins the GSL. He'd be guaranteed to win the GSL if they did ^^.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
July 20 2011 12:49 GMT
#2388
On July 20 2011 21:32 Asha` wrote:
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On July 20 2011 21:31 Noocta wrote:

On July 20 2011 21:27 Asha` wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:23 Fionn wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:22 Killmouse wrote:
shitty finals incomin!!


Bomber's vZ is pretty bad. Byun's is much better.


There's no actual reason at all to say Byun's vZ is any better than Bombers lol.

---

Congratulations to Byun, he did a good job on that comeback. Can't help but feel Bomber kind of choked that away though


You need to check Byun games in the Nationvoice Korean Weekly thing casted by Orb. Specialy the game Byun played against Curious on Taldarim Altar.
Sickest TvZ ever.


You know he lost that series 2-1 right...

Got beaten in the finals of week 3 by Tandongho 4-2 as well.


And those are better scores than what we had for most GSL finals.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 20 2011 12:50 GMT
#2389
On July 20 2011 21:48 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:45 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Kind of tired of all the "bad ZvT comments" for losira at this point. He beat TOP 2-1, and beat TOP before that 3-1 in the SAGACity invitationals, the TOP that took out nestea last season. It's not his best matchup, but it's not like he'll get rolled by any mid code S terran. You have to be one of the best TvZers like sC and even though I like byuns style, nothing gives me the sign to show that zenio's ZvT is better than Losira's.


Well, I went and checked TLPD and Losira has a 41% winrate against T. So yeah it seems he is not that consistant in the MU. I still hope he and Nestea win. I want to see a ZvZ final for a change

Yeah, but just look at who he's had to play, and only count the ones when he actually started to break out as one of the best zergs in the world and it doesn't seem as bad.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#2390
The LR thread will EXPLODE if NesTea loses to HongUn
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#2391
On July 20 2011 21:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:37 Eufouria wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:33 Jehct wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:30 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I'm seriously disappointed that bomber decided to attack there after losing all his scvs. That was definitely not his only way out when you have 3 ocs and 1 making and a near max army or an army that would have been maxed if he didn't lose like 50 scvs...


Sitting back on turtling when you're down 50scvs probably isn't the best idea either. It's a clutch call and it didn't pay off. If it had people would be calling him a genius. Accept he lost the game and move on; there is no right decision in that situation.

He won't be in a good position at all, but he has a very big army so that byun can't move out without being super careful and slow so that alone will buy him enough time. Also harder for byun to take a 4th in that situation so it's not like he's gonna be jumping ahead in economy once they both mine out their main and natural. Like tastosis said he actually did end up catching back up in scvs very quickly but just didn't have the army to defend.

I wouldn't have minded if he lost regularly, but that was a huge choke and totally impatient move by bomber there to attack into sieged tanks rather than at least try to take out byuns 3rd again or catch them out of siege.

That was nearly the best engagement he could have hoped for. If he waited longer his army wouldn't be that much bigger and Byun would be maxed and moved out into a better position.

That's just not true because bomber had a near maxed army before he lost scvs so the only hit was to his economy. It was actually the worst engagement he could ask for, byun was well sieged, had maximum vision, and had all his siege tanks there ready. You don't want to attack into a near maxed mech army full of siege tanks even if you're well spread.

Byun has no choice to move out slowly even though he would have had a huge economic lead, you just can't rush into a maxed marauder sieged army and plan on remaxing while the other guy can't because they'll be 20x more cost efficient and have so much left over to roll you with.

I can't really discuss this because I'd at least need to see the VoD again, but the point is that when you are in a situation where your economy gets wrecked you are on a ticking clock. Every minute you get further behind. Bomber had a decent sized army, but soon Byun's army would have been too strong to ever engage so he needed to attack soon and not only crush Byun's army, but be able to kill him right there or at least wreck his economy too.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
July 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#2392
On July 20 2011 21:46 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:43 Fionn wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:42 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there.


His wrist is severely injured. He said in his interviews that he thought about retiring/quitting, but since so many people want to be in Code S, that he will play until he loses.

And he just continues to win.


When was this? Because it seems like he's been this way for a couple of seasons now.


You just answered your own question actually. He's had that injury and it has just been getting progressively worse and worse for couple of seasons now.


On July 20 2011 21:48 kochujang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:28 b_unnies wrote:
Wow. Byun's such a good friend of mine and this entire tournament i've been liquibetting against him and everytime he continues to advance.

Even last night byun admitted to me that he thought he would lose to Bomber. I'm picking this guy to win the Code S now.

You have to tell him to make a picture of him and his dog, and post it here on TL!


That would be awesome. Heck, I don't know why more people don't like Byun considering how much personality he has and we get so many complaints of "lack of personality."
Gameplay > Personality
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
July 20 2011 12:51 GMT
#2393
On July 20 2011 21:48 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:45 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Kind of tired of all the "bad ZvT comments" for losira at this point. He beat TOP 2-1, and beat TOP before that 3-1 in the SAGACity invitationals, the TOP that took out nestea last season. It's not his best matchup, but it's not like he'll get rolled by any mid code S terran. You have to be one of the best TvZers like sC and even though I like byuns style, nothing gives me the sign to show that zenio's ZvT is better than Losira's.


Well, I went and checked TLPD and Losira has a 41% winrate against T. So yeah it seems he is not that consistant in the MU. I still hope he and Nestea win. I want to see a ZvZ final for a change


I don't think you want to see this particular finals.With Nestea's ZvZ and the relatively short and volatile nature of the matchup itself, the finals will over before your popcorn is even ready.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 20 2011 12:52 GMT
#2394
On July 20 2011 21:48 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:45 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Kind of tired of all the "bad ZvT comments" for losira at this point. He beat TOP 2-1, and beat TOP before that 3-1 in the SAGACity invitationals, the TOP that took out nestea last season. It's not his best matchup, but it's not like he'll get rolled by any mid code S terran. You have to be one of the best TvZers like sC and even though I like byuns style, nothing gives me the sign to show that zenio's ZvT is better than Losira's.


Well, I went and checked TLPD and Losira has a 41% winrate against T. So yeah it seems he is not that consistant in the MU. I still hope he and Nestea win. I want to see a ZvZ final for a change

He seems to have found a style that works recently, he used to use a lot of roaches and it didn't really work.
MrSweetNess
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia312 Posts
July 20 2011 12:54 GMT
#2395
I'm really shocked, after the 1st two games I expected Bomber to just destroy Byun, but to his credit, Byun managed to hold on, regardless of the fact that it appeared that Bomber choked, Byun still had to win 3 games in a row, very impressive.

I just hope that Byun makes it through to the finals now.
I can't see Hongun beating NesTea and as much as I would love to see the master v apprentice showdown with LosirA and NesTea, but it would be a ZvZ with NesTea

Byun is the only player who I can see giving NesTea any trouble at all.
Once again, it is NesTea's final to lose.
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
July 20 2011 12:55 GMT
#2396
what the hell happened? I opened the stream, saw the nuke in mineral line of Byun followed with gg, heard tastosis talking about Bomber as being from another world, and went out for a lunch. Now I came back, just to make sure Bomber 3-0'd and...
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 12:58:50
July 20 2011 12:55 GMT
#2397
On July 20 2011 21:51 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 21:46 thepuppyassassin wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:43 Fionn wrote:
On July 20 2011 21:42 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there.


His wrist is severely injured. He said in his interviews that he thought about retiring/quitting, but since so many people want to be in Code S, that he will play until he loses.

And he just continues to win.


When was this? Because it seems like he's been this way for a couple of seasons now.


You just answered your own question actually. He's had that injury and it has just been getting progressively worse and worse for couple of seasons now.



All this time I thought it was because he was trying to compensate for how unbelievably geeky he looked in the earlier seasons by going for the "brooding" look. Seriously, the guy was so flippin enthusiastic. It's almost painful to watch him now.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 20 2011 12:55 GMT
#2398
On July 20 2011 20:15 Fionn wrote:
So a GOM exec, who you've never seen before, comes up to you and says that if Bomber closes out the series and beats Byun, you win 10,000,000 dollars. If he loses, you die. But if he can win two out of the next four, you win all that cash.

Poll: Would you bet your life that Bomber beats Byun for 10 million?

No (40)
 
63%

Yes (24)
 
38%

64 total votes

Your vote: Would you bet your life that Bomber beats Byun for 10 million?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





Another batch of LR guys died. I wonder how many from yesterday died today as well
I had a good night of sleep.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
July 20 2011 12:56 GMT
#2399
Byun better win the whole thing now.
here i am
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
July 20 2011 12:58 GMT
#2400
On July 20 2011 21:51 SafeAsCheese wrote:
The LR thread will EXPLODE when NesTea loses to HongUn


Fixed.
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