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On July 20 2011 21:37 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:35 s3rp wrote:On July 20 2011 21:32 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:31 Noocta wrote:On July 20 2011 21:27 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:23 Fionn wrote:On July 20 2011 21:22 Killmouse wrote:
shitty finals incomin!! Bomber's vZ is pretty bad. Byun's is much better. There's no actual reason at all to say Byun's vZ is any better than Bombers lol. --- Congratulations to Byun, he did a good job on that comeback. Can't help but feel Bomber kind of choked that away though  You need to check Byun games in the Nationvoice Korean Weekly thing casted by Orb. Specialy the game Byun played against Curious on Taldarim Altar. Sickest TvZ ever. You know he lost that series 2-1 right... Got beaten in the finals of week 3 by Tandongho 4-2 as well. Thing is he is and was training TvT for his GSL Matches at that time and still played well enough to win in these tournaments. He's going to train hardcore TvZ now. Hopefully he'll shine. Was allways rooting for him since he got into Code S , finally he shows how good of a player he really is and can be. He wasn't practicing specifically for TvT when he lost to Tandongho lol. I'm sure he'll do well and he's a fun player to watch, I just think it's silly to say his vZ is flat out better than Bomber's (who despite his failings has a dominant record against Losira)
Yeah against losira who's bad at ZvT...
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I just realized that this is the first time in GSL history we have two zergs in the final four!
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I hope the final will be nestea vs byun. Anything else is going to be either boring or one sided.
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Artosis trying to lay the curse on nestea at the end there.. will we have an IM zerg finals or a Nestea v Byun lol.
Just shut ur mouth artosis!
ZvZ is the only matchup we haven't had for a finals in either code a or s.
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Nestea get the easiest way to the final after beating July, hope Hongun stand up for protoss
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On July 20 2011 21:36 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:34 TranceStorm wrote:On July 20 2011 21:32 Genie1 wrote:On July 20 2011 21:30 blooblooblahblah wrote:On July 20 2011 21:28 Genie1 wrote:
After this match I wouldn't be surprised if bomber retires after this game. His nerves got to him to easily really I thought he had this in the bag. wtf.. Its not new either players in brood war have done it when losing this close to the semi finals and just can't take it anymore. Wait. Name some brood war players who were capable of getting to Starleague quarterfinals who retired immediately after a poor result? Most players retired after they were past their prime, I don't think I ever recall a player immediately retiring after a particularly hurtful defeat. Lucifron after losing to ActionJesus
Did Lucifron actually retire? And that loss wasn't that embarassing, he just got 6 pooled.
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On July 20 2011 21:36 _vladimir_ wrote:
Why so much random hate comments about Hongun, yeah its expected that he lose from Nestea, but you people moan about him entering top4, like he is some random protoss who got there by accident, instead one of top3 protoss with best results in GSL, with double top4 and double top8..
Show some respect before making laughable comments, i know its sad that we will not see MC vs Nestea match that we all hoped for, but its a decent player who beat MC, and not some....(insert random insult)
Haha you are right, people are probably upset because Hongun said that his official PvP winrate was 0% and then he proceeded to win against MC
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On July 20 2011 21:37 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 20 2011 21:33 Jehct wrote:On July 20 2011 21:30 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I'm seriously disappointed that bomber decided to attack there after losing all his scvs. That was definitely not his only way out when you have 3 ocs and 1 making and a near max army or an army that would have been maxed if he didn't lose like 50 scvs...
Sitting back on turtling when you're down 50scvs probably isn't the best idea either. It's a clutch call and it didn't pay off. If it had people would be calling him a genius. Accept he lost the game and move on; there is no right decision in that situation. He won't be in a good position at all, but he has a very big army so that byun can't move out without being super careful and slow so that alone will buy him enough time. Also harder for byun to take a 4th in that situation so it's not like he's gonna be jumping ahead in economy once they both mine out their main and natural. Like tastosis said he actually did end up catching back up in scvs very quickly but just didn't have the army to defend. I wouldn't have minded if he lost regularly, but that was a huge choke and totally impatient move by bomber there to attack into sieged tanks rather than at least try to take out byuns 3rd again or catch them out of siege. That was nearly the best engagement he could have hoped for. If he waited longer his army wouldn't be that much bigger and Byun would be maxed and moved out into a better position.
That's just not true because bomber had a near maxed army before he lost scvs so the only hit was to his economy. It was actually the worst engagement he could ask for, byun was well sieged, had maximum vision, and had all his siege tanks there ready. You don't want to attack into a near maxed mech army full of siege tanks even if you're well spread.
Byun has no choice to move out slowly even though he would have had a huge economic lead, you just can't rush into a maxed marauder sieged army and plan on remaxing while the other guy can't because they'll be 20x more cost efficient and have so much left over to roll you with.
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On July 20 2011 21:40 MifuneKinski wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:36 Pajegetc wrote:On July 20 2011 21:34 TranceStorm wrote:On July 20 2011 21:32 Genie1 wrote:On July 20 2011 21:30 blooblooblahblah wrote:On July 20 2011 21:28 Genie1 wrote:
After this match I wouldn't be surprised if bomber retires after this game. His nerves got to him to easily really I thought he had this in the bag. wtf.. Its not new either players in brood war have done it when losing this close to the semi finals and just can't take it anymore. Wait. Name some brood war players who were capable of getting to Starleague quarterfinals who retired immediately after a poor result? Most players retired after they were past their prime, I don't think I ever recall a player immediately retiring after a particularly hurtful defeat. Lucifron after losing to ActionJesus Did Lucifron actually retire? And that loss wasn't that embarassing, he just got 6 pooled.
He has never been seen since. And I think it was 2 games in a row he lost to it.
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Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there.
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On July 20 2011 21:40 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:36 _vladimir_ wrote:
Why so much random hate comments about Hongun, yeah its expected that he lose from Nestea, but you people moan about him entering top4, like he is some random protoss who got there by accident, instead one of top3 protoss with best results in GSL, with double top4 and double top8..
Show some respect before making laughable comments, i know its sad that we will not see MC vs Nestea match that we all hoped for, but its a decent player who beat MC, and not some....(insert random insult) Haha you are right, people are probably upset because Hongun said that his official PvP winrate was 0% and then he proceeded to win against MC
Lower expectations going in then bam!
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On July 20 2011 21:38 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:37 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:35 s3rp wrote:On July 20 2011 21:32 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:31 Noocta wrote:On July 20 2011 21:27 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:23 Fionn wrote:On July 20 2011 21:22 Killmouse wrote:
shitty finals incomin!! Bomber's vZ is pretty bad. Byun's is much better. There's no actual reason at all to say Byun's vZ is any better than Bombers lol. --- Congratulations to Byun, he did a good job on that comeback. Can't help but feel Bomber kind of choked that away though You need to check Byun games in the Nationvoice Korean Weekly thing casted by Orb. Specialy the game Byun played against Curious on Taldarim Altar. Sickest TvZ ever. You know he lost that series 2-1 right... Got beaten in the finals of week 3 by Tandongho 4-2 as well. Thing is he is and was training TvT for his GSL Matches at that time and still played well enough to win in these tournaments. He's going to train hardcore TvZ now. Hopefully he'll shine. Was allways rooting for him since he got into Code S , finally he shows how good of a player he really is and can be. He wasn't practicing specifically for TvT when he lost to Tandongho lol. I'm sure he'll do well and he's a fun player to watch, I just think it's silly to say his vZ is flat out better than Bomber's (who despite his failings has a dominant record against Losira) Wasn't that just before his group play where had sC and MVP in his groups? He sure as hell trained TvT a shitload before that. ( and it payed off )
And Zenio...who was his first match. He was guaranteed 1 Z and 1T.
On July 20 2011 21:38 Imres wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:37 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:35 s3rp wrote:On July 20 2011 21:32 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:31 Noocta wrote:On July 20 2011 21:27 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:23 Fionn wrote:On July 20 2011 21:22 Killmouse wrote:
shitty finals incomin!! Bomber's vZ is pretty bad. Byun's is much better. There's no actual reason at all to say Byun's vZ is any better than Bombers lol. --- Congratulations to Byun, he did a good job on that comeback. Can't help but feel Bomber kind of choked that away though You need to check Byun games in the Nationvoice Korean Weekly thing casted by Orb. Specialy the game Byun played against Curious on Taldarim Altar. Sickest TvZ ever. You know he lost that series 2-1 right... Got beaten in the finals of week 3 by Tandongho 4-2 as well. Thing is he is and was training TvT for his GSL Matches at that time and still played well enough to win in these tournaments. He's going to train hardcore TvZ now. Hopefully he'll shine. Was allways rooting for him since he got into Code S , finally he shows how good of a player he really is and can be. He wasn't practicing specifically for TvT when he lost to Tandongho lol. I'm sure he'll do well and he's a fun player to watch, I just think it's silly to say his vZ is flat out better than Bomber's (who despite his failings has a dominant record against Losira) Yeah against losira who's bad at ZvT...
The point being that there's not much reason to say Byun will do better vs Losira than Bomber given Bomber has such a good record against him.
On July 20 2011 21:38 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:32 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:31 Noocta wrote:On July 20 2011 21:27 Asha` wrote:On July 20 2011 21:23 Fionn wrote:On July 20 2011 21:22 Killmouse wrote:
shitty finals incomin!! Bomber's vZ is pretty bad. Byun's is much better. There's no actual reason at all to say Byun's vZ is any better than Bombers lol. --- Congratulations to Byun, he did a good job on that comeback. Can't help but feel Bomber kind of choked that away though You need to check Byun games in the Nationvoice Korean Weekly thing casted by Orb. Specialy the game Byun played against Curious on Taldarim Altar. Sickest TvZ ever. You know he lost that series 2-1 right... Got beaten in the finals of week 3 by Tandongho 4-2 as well. Tandongho so good tho.
True that, I need to look up the GSTL roster change situation to know whether he can play in the second half of the GSTL for Zenex or not.
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On July 20 2011 21:41 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:40 MifuneKinski wrote:On July 20 2011 21:36 Pajegetc wrote:On July 20 2011 21:34 TranceStorm wrote:On July 20 2011 21:32 Genie1 wrote:On July 20 2011 21:30 blooblooblahblah wrote:On July 20 2011 21:28 Genie1 wrote:
After this match I wouldn't be surprised if bomber retires after this game. His nerves got to him to easily really I thought he had this in the bag. wtf.. Its not new either players in brood war have done it when losing this close to the semi finals and just can't take it anymore. Wait. Name some brood war players who were capable of getting to Starleague quarterfinals who retired immediately after a poor result? Most players retired after they were past their prime, I don't think I ever recall a player immediately retiring after a particularly hurtful defeat. Lucifron after losing to ActionJesus Did Lucifron actually retire? And that loss wasn't that embarassing, he just got 6 pooled. He has never been seen since. And I think it was 2 games in a row he lost to it.
He still plays, shows up in some EU cups and is on a Spanish team now. Qualfified for some Spanish dreamhack qualifiers recently etc.
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On July 20 2011 21:42 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there.
His wrist is severely injured. He said in his interviews that he thought about retiring/quitting, but since so many people want to be in Code S, that he will play until he loses.
And he just continues to win.
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On July 20 2011 21:42 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there.
He injured his wrist and has stated that he isn't practicing much and will probably retire soon.
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I'm surprised that everyone is so sure of themselves what the results will be of the semis, especially considering how many upsets there have been. Heck, I don't think anyone expected Trickster to do as well as he did against Losira or Byun to actually defeat Bomber or HongUn to actually defeat MC.
Hell, from an spectator who has no fan bias, this tournament has been absolutely phenomenal so far in storylines (HongUn with his injury and Byun with his Dog, LOL); of course for fans of the established gamers, it sucks.
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On July 20 2011 21:42 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there.
He's in constant pain due to wrist injury. Pain makes one very edgy, not to mention the injury is preventing him from practicing like he wants, which makes him frustrated.
At least that's why I think he's not happy lately despite his results.
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Kind of tired of all the "bad ZvT comments" for losira at this point. He beat TOP 2-1, and beat TOP before that 3-1 in the SAGACity invitationals, the TOP that took out nestea last season. It's not his best matchup, but it's not like he'll get rolled by any mid code S terran. You have to be one of the best TvZers like sC and even though I like byuns style, nothing gives me the sign to show that zenio's ZvT is better than Losira's.
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On July 20 2011 21:42 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there.
I believe in the interview after beating Zenio, he said that he was getting tired of Progaming because he never makes it to finals and also because of his wrist injury. He also said he was thinking about retiring at some stage soon and pursuing another career. I think he is just getting tired of it, but in his interview after he took out MC, he seemed to be a bit happier and maybe coming around again if he can have a good showing in this GSL
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On July 20 2011 21:36 MrCon wrote:
Now we'll have a Nestea vs Losira final, it's already written in the stars by GOMTV. If there's a possibility of a shitty final, there will be a shitty final. (even tho it could actually produce good and close games + good storyline)
Still, I hope Byun will win vs Losira. One sure thing is that this serie will be good.
I think that the storyline here will make it great. LosirA vs NesTea would actually be the Master vs Apprentice story with a lot of tension.
NesTea working on claiming his 3rd title and establish himself as the best player in the world and Losira as the upcoming zerg who wants his first title.
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On July 20 2011 21:43 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 21:42 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what the deal with Hongun is? Did you watch him in the earlier seasons? He was such an enthusiastic little nerd with a huge ripe banana grin in all his interviews. Now he seems so angry all the time. When he won his ro4 victory he was completely stone faced. It's like he doesn't even want to be there. His wrist is severely injured. He said in his interviews that he thought about retiring/quitting, but since so many people want to be in Code S, that he will play until he loses. And he just continues to win.
When was this? Because it seems like he's been this way for a couple of seasons now.
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