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On July 19 2011 20:46 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:43 moyk wrote:On July 19 2011 20:33 FuRong wrote:
Well, sometimes you look like a genius and sometimes you lose to HongunPrime.
But seriously, wtf. How can you knock out Huk and then lose to Hongun in the next round? =/
It's obviously because HongUn has top 2 control in the world  Who's top 1 control then?
FXOTheBest, obviously.
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On July 19 2011 20:46 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:43 moyk wrote:On July 19 2011 20:33 FuRong wrote:
Well, sometimes you look like a genius and sometimes you lose to HongunPrime.
But seriously, wtf. How can you knock out Huk and then lose to Hongun in the next round? =/
It's obviously because HongUn has top 2 control in the world Who's top 1 control then?
Thebestfou
edit: Damn you Zane
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On July 19 2011 20:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:44 HolyArrow wrote:On July 19 2011 20:40 Azzur wrote:Hahahaha, today's games couldn't have got any better. I remember an old MC interview where he said he would've crushed Nestea if it was him in the finals instead of Inca (GSL May). http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221587On May 11 2011 13:19 Azzur wrote:I want to face Nestea and Mvp. If I were in the finals right now, I guarantee I would crush Nestea in the matchup. Hmm... these are big words. He should prove it (i.e. by qualifying for the finals) instead. Here's hoping that the overconfidence will lead to an early elimination in the Super Tournament! I was right about the early elimination from the Super Tournament  The thing is, I bet in his next interview, he will go on about how if he had the chance to face Nestea, he would crush him. I'll be like, why don't you concentrate on getting to the stage where you can face him?? MC was thinking about his "future" opponent of Nestea today and didn't show enough respect to HongUn. Today was a great day - free flowing buffet of MC fanboy tears :p The anti-MC glee is possibly more annoying than the MC fanboy tears. There are so many unfair assumptions being made about MC's personality by people like you that it makes my head hurt. I honestly don't see how anyone can downplay MC's accomplishments and call him overrated. He's won more major tournaments than just about anyone, and placed very high in the rest. This reminds me of the "MC is just a 2 basing no talent build abusing scrub" and then he dominates macro games for the next 3 months.
mc dominated macro games for 3 months?>
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On July 19 2011 20:38 LightWireEX wrote:
@oGsMC: I don't even understand what I did. I'm supposedly a professional and yet I got supply blocked and played without thinking in a game that I prepared. The games I played doesn't even deserved to be excused and the saddest thing is that I miss out on games against Nestea and I'm just angry at myself
Translated, from Milkis twitter.
Very contrite. Still a boss even in defeat.
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Argh. This was a painful result to discover. I thought we would have a pseudo final semi-finals.
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Few players are usin Forge 2 Cannon Timing to deffende exactly when 4 Gates is comming
1) You must be absolutely sure it is a 4 Gates
2) You must deny the scout to your oponente asap your first Stalker is out
3) This let you able to tech faster and macro safely to contain the delayed try of All In
4) If your enemy choose to macro after failing, yo must scout him properly, and punish him with your Tech (also macro with your own Expa without suiciding your few units)
If you try to stop 4 Gates in PvP, by merely micro and adjusted timed units, a single mistake and it is a GG, but everyone try to do it because they can counter attack inmediatly and winning the game
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On July 19 2011 20:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:38 malaki wrote:On July 19 2011 20:37 Itsmedudeman wrote:
hey you know what, if I trained 11 hours a day i guarantee you I'd be the best player in the world
but you know what, we'll never know thats a terrible comparison because we have no reason to believe that you have any sort of talent, there are a lot of players training 10 hours a day and they're not code s we'll never know and you know who else is not in code S or code A? Whitera
yeah and you're probably platinum on na ladder lool
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On July 19 2011 20:50 IceSlipper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 19 2011 20:44 HolyArrow wrote:On July 19 2011 20:40 Azzur wrote:Hahahaha, today's games couldn't have got any better. I remember an old MC interview where he said he would've crushed Nestea if it was him in the finals instead of Inca (GSL May). http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221587On May 11 2011 13:19 Azzur wrote:I want to face Nestea and Mvp. If I were in the finals right now, I guarantee I would crush Nestea in the matchup. Hmm... these are big words. He should prove it (i.e. by qualifying for the finals) instead. Here's hoping that the overconfidence will lead to an early elimination in the Super Tournament! I was right about the early elimination from the Super Tournament The thing is, I bet in his next interview, he will go on about how if he had the chance to face Nestea, he would crush him. I'll be like, why don't you concentrate on getting to the stage where you can face him?? MC was thinking about his "future" opponent of Nestea today and didn't show enough respect to HongUn. Today was a great day - free flowing buffet of MC fanboy tears :p The anti-MC glee is possibly more annoying than the MC fanboy tears. There are so many unfair assumptions being made about MC's personality by people like you that it makes my head hurt. I honestly don't see how anyone can downplay MC's accomplishments and call him overrated. He's won more major tournaments than just about anyone, and placed very high in the rest. This reminds me of the "MC is just a 2 basing no talent build abusing scrub" and then he dominates macro games for the next 3 months. mc dominated macro games for 3 months?>
He changed his style and has smashed people without using timings, yes. Just about all the non pvp games from MC have been macro oriented and he's been getting very good results with it.
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On July 19 2011 20:50 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:38 LightWireEX wrote:
@oGsMC: I don't even understand what I did. I'm supposedly a professional and yet I got supply blocked and played without thinking in a game that I prepared. The games I played doesn't even deserved to be excused and the saddest thing is that I miss out on games against Nestea and I'm just angry at myself
Translated, from Milkis twitter. Very contrite. Still a boss even in defeat.
Here's what I got from google translator:
I do not even know he did what a bitch you ready to play pro in the game without thinking was blocked pailreon defend the game was not worth it for the best ahswiungeot jaedeok missed two games with my brother and myself get angry,
Thought he was calling hongun a bitch hahaha
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wow wtf how did MC lose, i gota watch the vods later, but Nestea vs Hongun semi finals will be a roll over, GSL always dissapoints
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Well then, gotta be Bomber vs Nestea rematch
Bomber is sick good at everything but TvZ definitely feels like his weakest matchup
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Can't believe MC lost the first game in that position  and it all went down from there
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On July 19 2011 20:46 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:43 moyk wrote:On July 19 2011 20:33 FuRong wrote:
Well, sometimes you look like a genius and sometimes you lose to HongunPrime.
But seriously, wtf. How can you knock out Huk and then lose to Hongun in the next round? =/
It's obviously because HongUn has top 2 control in the world Who's top 1 control then?
Combatex of course.
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On July 19 2011 20:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:50 IceSlipper wrote:On July 19 2011 20:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 19 2011 20:44 HolyArrow wrote:On July 19 2011 20:40 Azzur wrote:Hahahaha, today's games couldn't have got any better. I remember an old MC interview where he said he would've crushed Nestea if it was him in the finals instead of Inca (GSL May). http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221587On May 11 2011 13:19 Azzur wrote:I want to face Nestea and Mvp. If I were in the finals right now, I guarantee I would crush Nestea in the matchup. Hmm... these are big words. He should prove it (i.e. by qualifying for the finals) instead. Here's hoping that the overconfidence will lead to an early elimination in the Super Tournament! I was right about the early elimination from the Super Tournament The thing is, I bet in his next interview, he will go on about how if he had the chance to face Nestea, he would crush him. I'll be like, why don't you concentrate on getting to the stage where you can face him?? MC was thinking about his "future" opponent of Nestea today and didn't show enough respect to HongUn. Today was a great day - free flowing buffet of MC fanboy tears :p The anti-MC glee is possibly more annoying than the MC fanboy tears. There are so many unfair assumptions being made about MC's personality by people like you that it makes my head hurt. I honestly don't see how anyone can downplay MC's accomplishments and call him overrated. He's won more major tournaments than just about anyone, and placed very high in the rest. This reminds me of the "MC is just a 2 basing no talent build abusing scrub" and then he dominates macro games for the next 3 months. mc dominated macro games for 3 months?> He changed his style and has smashed people without using timings, yes. Just about all the non pvp games from MC have been macro oriented and he's been getting very good results with it.
Getting very good results =/= dominating.
On July 19 2011 20:54 Stanlot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:46 Doganaws wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHA HAAAAAAAAAAAA. BOSS TOSSS. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA. MC FOR PRESIDENT. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OMG I'M PISSING  Please. The anti-MC fanboys are worse than MC fanboys when he loses.
How can they be worse? Have you seen all the bitching about 4gates, as if it was the only reason MC lost? As if he played a perfect game and still lost?
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On July 19 2011 20:52 hugedong wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:50 tdt wrote:On July 19 2011 20:38 LightWireEX wrote:
@oGsMC: I don't even understand what I did. I'm supposedly a professional and yet I got supply blocked and played without thinking in a game that I prepared. The games I played doesn't even deserved to be excused and the saddest thing is that I miss out on games against Nestea and I'm just angry at myself
Translated, from Milkis twitter. Very contrite. Still a boss even in defeat. Here's what I got from google translator: I do not even know he did what a bitch you ready to play pro in the game without thinking was blocked pailreon defend the game was not worth it for the best ahswiungeot jaedeok missed two games with my brother and myself get angry,Thought he was calling hongun a bitch hahaha
Yeah, google translate is actually really terrible for Korean. It's often really inaccurate, but when I first ran it through I thought he was raging at HongUn too, which would have really been a shame to me and hurt my image of him. But Milkis fortunately remedied everything very quickly
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On July 19 2011 20:46 Doganaws wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHA HAAAAAAAAAAAA. BOSS TOSSS. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA. MC FOR PRESIDENT. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OMG I'M PISSING
Please. The anti-MC fanboys are worse than MC fanboys when he loses.
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On July 19 2011 20:40 Coufu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:37 IVN wrote:On July 19 2011 20:08 Mioraka wrote:On July 19 2011 20:06 Fubi wrote:
So much for the patch fixing PvP, it didn't change one bit the only thing that can stop razor thin 4 Warp gate is still a 4 warp gate. Thank you blizzard for a lame ass match up. With the last Patch Blizz has basically made 4gt way less viable in all MUs, except PvP, which was their original goal. And the smaller Pylon radius makes Wall offs more prone to busting vZ. So yeah, I consider the "fix" a fail in PvP, and it does reduce the early threat Protoss have against greedy expoing. Not QQing or anything, but I would have preferred if Blizz had gone with my idea of one Pylon's power radius canceling the warpin ability of the opponents pylon, so that you can just build one pylon at the top of you ramp, make a sentry and stop 4gt much more easily. That wouldn't have made 4gt totally obsolete, but not as dominant, as it still is. Ohh well... I had the same exact idea with the pylons, but unfortunately, that wouldn't have even helped MC in the last game because he simply didn't have enough units, even if HongUn had to warp on the bottom of the ramp.
I didnt write that, just cuz MC lost. I mean, I think it's a better idea, than nerfing WG and Pylon radius. Blizz's approach ended up influencing all P MUs, wheres the "cancelation" approach would have only fixed PvP. As a "fan" of cleaner fixes, I prefer the latter.
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On July 19 2011 20:54 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 20:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 19 2011 20:50 IceSlipper wrote:On July 19 2011 20:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 19 2011 20:44 HolyArrow wrote:On July 19 2011 20:40 Azzur wrote:Hahahaha, today's games couldn't have got any better. I remember an old MC interview where he said he would've crushed Nestea if it was him in the finals instead of Inca (GSL May). http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221587On May 11 2011 13:19 Azzur wrote:I want to face Nestea and Mvp. If I were in the finals right now, I guarantee I would crush Nestea in the matchup. Hmm... these are big words. He should prove it (i.e. by qualifying for the finals) instead. Here's hoping that the overconfidence will lead to an early elimination in the Super Tournament! I was right about the early elimination from the Super Tournament The thing is, I bet in his next interview, he will go on about how if he had the chance to face Nestea, he would crush him. I'll be like, why don't you concentrate on getting to the stage where you can face him?? MC was thinking about his "future" opponent of Nestea today and didn't show enough respect to HongUn. Today was a great day - free flowing buffet of MC fanboy tears :p The anti-MC glee is possibly more annoying than the MC fanboy tears. There are so many unfair assumptions being made about MC's personality by people like you that it makes my head hurt. I honestly don't see how anyone can downplay MC's accomplishments and call him overrated. He's won more major tournaments than just about anyone, and placed very high in the rest. This reminds me of the "MC is just a 2 basing no talent build abusing scrub" and then he dominates macro games for the next 3 months. mc dominated macro games for 3 months?> He changed his style and has smashed people without using timings, yes. Just about all the non pvp games from MC have been macro oriented and he's been getting very good results with it. Getting very good results =/= dominating.
Don't take everything so literally, jesus. Very impressive wins through his macro and late game is what my entire point was here.
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On July 19 2011 20:46 Doganaws wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHA HAAAAAAAAAAAA. BOSS TOSSS. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA. MC FOR PRESIDENT. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OMG I'M PISSING
Aint even necessary bro
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I didn't play much 1v1 SC1 but could someone tell me whether a shield battery could potentially 'fix' 4gate pvp by returning defenders advantage? To me it seems like a pretty good thing to bring back from SC1 (for HOTS obv) given the current pvp style is still mostly 4gate
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