So in Liquipedia the is a link to the official results page (Group results) and the brackets (Brackets).
The groups obviously do not follow the written rules and the tree is kind of funky shuffled.
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lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
August 04 2011 22:06 GMT
#3641
So in Liquipedia the is a link to the official results page (Group results) and the brackets (Brackets). The groups obviously do not follow the written rules and the tree is kind of funky shuffled. | ||
Strammefar
Denmark44 Posts
August 04 2011 22:10 GMT
#3642
On August 05 2011 06:57 Zane wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2011 06:54 zev318 wrote: On August 05 2011 06:51 Zane wrote: On August 05 2011 06:50 m0ck wrote: No, he had six points along with elfi, who beat him when they played. That should mean that elfi advance as 1, not nada. They take map score into consideration before head to head. Nada is 5-3 and Elfi is 4-3. Also, what 6 points are you talking about? It's not soccer. 1. Mutual match 2. Map score difference in mutual games 3. Map score difference in all games in the group 4. Won maps in mutual games 5. Won maps in all games in the group 6. Tiebreaker games (bo1). from the rules page, tiebreaker criterias, nada should be 2 Oh, I see. Then Elfi should be #1 indeed. Not if you are following this link: http://tournaments.peliliiga.fi/summer11/tournaments/view/9 :S According to them, Grubby is number 2 in group E insteat of Welmu? | ||
Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
August 04 2011 22:12 GMT
#3643
On August 05 2011 06:54 zev318 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2011 06:51 Zane wrote: On August 05 2011 06:50 m0ck wrote: No, he had six points along with elfi, who beat him when they played. That should mean that elfi advance as 1, not nada. They take map score into consideration before head to head. Nada is 5-3 and Elfi is 4-3. Also, what 6 points are you talking about? It's not soccer. 1. Mutual match 2. Map score difference in mutual games 3. Map score difference in all games in the group 4. Won maps in mutual games 5. Won maps in all games in the group 6. Tiebreaker games (bo1). from the rules page, tiebreaker criterias, nada should be 2 Yes, that's tiebreaker criteria, but when is it decided that it's a tie? After set score? After set and match score? | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
August 04 2011 22:15 GMT
#3644
On August 05 2011 07:04 Steamroller wrote: Have u watched this stream? Pretty cool and i think u can't even see half of the computers there. http://www.assemblytv.net/ Haaa, wanted a stream of the event itself all day, thank you sir I'll bookmark it for tomorrow. Awesome tourney by the way. Usually except GSL I watch tournaments then my attention decline with time (even happened this weekend@MLG), today it was quite the contrary, I casually watched at first then just watched avidly, at the point that it's now midnight and I thought it was still like 7pm ^^ Some great game, great casting (the french casters were very good, and usually I don't like french casters too much, I'll watch english over french for the same game) Morrow seems to have a royal road until the semi finals at least, I can see him winning this. By the way TL staff, for tomorrow Assembly is not in the calendar. | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
August 04 2011 22:18 GMT
#3645
On August 05 2011 07:12 Lobo2me wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2011 06:54 zev318 wrote: On August 05 2011 06:51 Zane wrote: On August 05 2011 06:50 m0ck wrote: No, he had six points along with elfi, who beat him when they played. That should mean that elfi advance as 1, not nada. They take map score into consideration before head to head. Nada is 5-3 and Elfi is 4-3. Also, what 6 points are you talking about? It's not soccer. 1. Mutual match 2. Map score difference in mutual games 3. Map score difference in all games in the group 4. Won maps in mutual games 5. Won maps in all games in the group 6. Tiebreaker games (bo1). from the rules page, tiebreaker criterias, nada should be 2 Yes, that's tiebreaker criteria, but when is it decided that it's a tie? After set score? After set and match score? After match score is what makes the most sense. | ||
lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
August 04 2011 22:18 GMT
#3646
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Noam
Israel2209 Posts
August 04 2011 22:21 GMT
#3647
There were some confusions before originating from the group rankings on their site being wrong but the bracket page being correct. If you find any mistakes let us know please. | ||
lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
August 04 2011 22:28 GMT
#3648
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
August 04 2011 22:28 GMT
#3649
On August 05 2011 07:18 lord_nibbler wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2011 07:10 Strammefar wrote: According to them, Grubby is number 2 in group E insteat of Welmu? Well, those two did play a Tiebreaker game and they also both have the same score in the group results page. Welmu is the one who appears in the brackets though. So that sounds about right. I just looked at Grubby's match history and there wasn't any tiebreak match between him and Welmu. | ||
lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
August 04 2011 22:31 GMT
#3650
Could be my imagination, but I thought somebody talked about a tiebreaker hours ago. | ||
LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
August 04 2011 22:34 GMT
#3651
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FinBenton
Finland870 Posts
August 04 2011 22:38 GMT
#3652
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qbs
Poland771 Posts
August 04 2011 22:40 GMT
#3653
On August 05 2011 06:33 Uracil wrote: I'm a little bit sad that Darkforce got eliminated 0-3. I don't think he showed his best play today. i think he played rly well but he made a lot of mistakes that lost him those games ![]() | ||
cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
August 04 2011 22:42 GMT
#3654
On August 05 2011 07:38 FinBenton wrote: What time does this start tomorrow, cant find it ? 10:00AM CET Dimaga - TLO SjoW - Bischu SarenS - BratOK 11:00AM CET Kas - Seiplo Sen - Stephano Elfi - Jimpo 12:00PM CET Mana - Nada Morrow - Welmu I took these starting times from fragster.de, hopefully they're correct ^^ | ||
Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
August 04 2011 22:44 GMT
#3655
On August 05 2011 07:18 MrCon wrote: Show nested quote + On August 05 2011 07:12 Lobo2me wrote: On August 05 2011 06:54 zev318 wrote: On August 05 2011 06:51 Zane wrote: On August 05 2011 06:50 m0ck wrote: No, he had six points along with elfi, who beat him when they played. That should mean that elfi advance as 1, not nada. They take map score into consideration before head to head. Nada is 5-3 and Elfi is 4-3. Also, what 6 points are you talking about? It's not soccer. 1. Mutual match 2. Map score difference in mutual games 3. Map score difference in all games in the group 4. Won maps in mutual games 5. Won maps in all games in the group 6. Tiebreaker games (bo1). from the rules page, tiebreaker criterias, nada should be 2 Yes, that's tiebreaker criteria, but when is it decided that it's a tie? After set score? After set and match score? After match score is what makes the most sense. Yes, that's what I'd think too, but it seems they do it differently. The reason why I think it should be after map score or difference: Let imagine NASL group where P1 went 2-0 against P3-10, and 1-2 against P2. He would have a total map score of 17-2, +15 map difference. P2 went 2-1 against P1 and P3-9 and 0-2 against P10, he's got a total map score of 16-10 and a +6 map difference. Yet he would be ahead of P1 in standings because he won against him, if mutual match result was first tiebreaker after set results. In a 4 man group the biggest difference would be one player going 5-2 and the another 4-4 in matches, but the 4-4 player getting first in the group. If that's how they do it, that's fine, but it would be nice to know which one it is because their brackets and groups said different things. | ||
GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
August 04 2011 22:48 GMT
#3656
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
August 04 2011 22:50 GMT
#3657
Against MaNa I could understand since it's PvP but vs Jimpo? did he do some all-in or did HuK just not play to his usual level ? | ||
DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
August 04 2011 22:56 GMT
#3658
On August 05 2011 07:50 shannn wrote: How did HuK lose to jimpo? Against MaNa I could understand since it's PvP but vs Jimpo? did he do some all-in or did HuK just not play to his usual level ? the map i saw (g3) was a straight macro game. | ||
BjC
England181 Posts
August 04 2011 22:56 GMT
#3659
On August 05 2011 07:50 shannn wrote: How did HuK lose to jimpo? Against MaNa I could understand since it's PvP but vs Jimpo? did he do some all-in or did HuK just not play to his usual level ? Huks has had hard matches against really good european players. Darkforce gave him a hard game in the series huk won. Jetlag may have some effect but his play seemed good to me. Just good matches vs good players on both sides. Why did it have to be an allin or cheese for huk to lose? | ||
TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 04 2011 22:57 GMT
#3660
On August 05 2011 07:34 LittLeD wrote: Aww too bad for Grubby. Well he'll do better next time im sure ;-) Grubby did pretty well. He fought hard against Kas, forced a deciding game but couldn't deal with a 1-base 4rax pressure. | ||
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