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Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
July 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#13601
On July 10 2011 13:10 Crisco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:07 Utinni wrote:
Why do people say Huk is Korean. He is a foreigner who trains with Koreans... What is not to understand. If you are in the same environment you will adapt. He trains as hard as they do... that is why he can compete.


foreigners are people who train outside of korea. and "Koreans" are people who train in Korea. Therefore, select is a "foreigner" and Huk is a "korean"

Wrong.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#13602
On July 10 2011 13:09 oriox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:05 GenesisX wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 WizShaw wrote:
Does anybody DEFINITIVELY know if the NASL is making money?


50,000 stream viewers, ads after open stream and after games, sponsors, premium tickets and much more... I think so


I think what he meant was "profiting". Is the NASL turning a profit from this season, aka can they continue business. Not obvious considering the sponsors are kinda small.


NASL has a private investor(s) backing them

it's obvious they are going to have a Season 2

when NASL was first announced, it was stated that funding for at least 3 seasons was secured
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#13603
On July 10 2011 13:10 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:09 OnelightZ wrote:
Seriously though, MC to come back from that was incredible


Seriously though, Sen throwing this away was awful


Guys guys, the series was more or less decided on who made the bigger mistakes.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
July 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#13604
On July 10 2011 13:08 RedDragon571 wrote:
Ok, too all the zerg's saying sen outplayed mc. I am a high masters zerg and I will occasionally delve into balance, but that is just not the case at all. MC outplayed sen, Sen got nervous and made a few hasty decisions that lost him the game. both player played brilliantly, but MC had to make soo many very tough decision in that game. He HAD to delay his gold expo on meta, he made incredible descision on when to attack and a incredibly smart void switch on terminus. So many good decisions by MC. MC was moments away from losing it all at many points but he made the correct descisions every time. The first two loses, was because he was unprepared to deal with that relatively new style sen showed.

Ps: I must be ahead of the curve meta game wise, because I do the exact same thing sen did, in most those games, However, Sen did alot of things I didn't think about, spine crawler walls, brilliant :D


yeah MC made tons of very gutsy and steady decisions under incredible pressure. He sure knows how to snatch wins from impossible situations.

Also I think he is just godly in every engagement. This is where Sen was clearly lacking against MC. MC's every battle was phenomenal and impressive. No wonder people call him Kratoss Protoss because he really is becoming a new god of war.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
July 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#13605
On July 10 2011 13:07 Utinni wrote:
Why do people say Huk is Korean. He is a foreigner who trains with Koreans... What is not to understand. If you are in the same environment you will adapt. He trains as hard as they do... that is why he can compete.


It's kind of a bad term, but basically he's a product of the Korean practise environment, where starcraft has a much better base than in the west. That's why by many he's no longer considered a foreigner.
The whole foreigner thing is not about race, it's about being able to be good without having the same awesome stepping stones as Koreans do.
Kind of like a rooky team vs a pro team.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#13606
On July 10 2011 13:11 EndOfTime88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:10 Ocedic wrote:

On July 10 2011 13:06 Serpico wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""


I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.


Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment.

No, huk isn't the best foreigner at all. I'd take dimaga/throzain/sen/naniwa/idra before huk because they've been much more consistent.


Idra consistent? Is that a joke?

Huk won Dreamhack, HSC3 and is doing fantastic in Code S. Yeah, what a sloppy, inconsistent player.


I'd consider Idra the most consistent of that group.

If by consistent you mean consistently failing before the top
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Blacklizard
Profile Joined May 2007
United States1194 Posts
July 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#13607
Truly exciting games today, especially MC vs Sen. Holy crap, Sen had him on the ropes so bad... totally slipped twice and MC was there to capitalize on the mistakes. WP.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13608
On July 10 2011 13:10 Crisco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:07 Utinni wrote:
Why do people say Huk is Korean. He is a foreigner who trains with Koreans... What is not to understand. If you are in the same environment you will adapt. He trains as hard as they do... that is why he can compete.


foreigners are people who train outside of korea. and "Koreans" are people who train in Korea. Therefore, select is a "foreigner" and Huk is a "korean"


I'm so sick of people saying this... Then I guess Messi is Spanish.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13609
On July 10 2011 13:10 Ryan307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:06 Serpico wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""


I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.


Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment.

No, huk isn't the best foreigner at all. I'd take dimaga/throzain/sen/naniwa/idra before huk because they've been much more consistent.


You are nuts if you're saying huk is less consistent than those players as of late.

lol what, consistency isn't about "as of late." It's about a body of work and not just "what have you done for me lately."
puzzl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States263 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13610
On July 10 2011 13:08 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:06 Euronyme wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 Moonwrath wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:01 Medrea wrote:
I understood every word MC said and every point he was trying to get across.

I can't even say that for a LOT of inner city Americans.

His english is really improving. I like that he is making the effort to do it on his own, just like how Jinro learned Korean. I guess Huk said he is trying to learn Korean too, but he's not very good at it or something

It's an incredibly difficult language for native English speakers. It's SO different.


Wouldn't it be just as hard for Swedish people?


Asian languages are not as hard as people make them out to be. The truth is that ALL languages are hard to learn. Asian languages might be slightly different, but like all other languages it's a matter of practice and application.


Spoken like someone who has zero knowledge of linguistics.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13611
On July 10 2011 13:11 stork4ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:09 TheResidentEvil wrote:
swimming pool going to be packed tonight


MC bringing all the ladies.

Puma bringing....???

July bringing that girl that has a bf but was flirting with him at the interview.



lol Torch's girlfriend? And Rachel isn't really flirting liike "hey lets get a room later" but it's more of a poking fun sort of style.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13612
On July 10 2011 13:10 deadjawa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:08 Ocedic wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:06 Euronyme wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 Moonwrath wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:01 Medrea wrote:
I understood every word MC said and every point he was trying to get across.

I can't even say that for a LOT of inner city Americans.

His english is really improving. I like that he is making the effort to do it on his own, just like how Jinro learned Korean. I guess Huk said he is trying to learn Korean too, but he's not very good at it or something

It's an incredibly difficult language for native English speakers. It's SO different.


Wouldn't it be just as hard for Swedish people?


Asian languages are not as hard as people make them out to be. The truth is that ALL languages are hard to learn. Asian languages might be slightly different, but like all other languages it's a matter of practice and application.

Category III: Languages which are quite difficult for native English speakers
88 weeks (2200 class hours)(about half that time preferably spent studying in-country)
Arabic
Cantonese
Japanese
Korean
Mandarin
Mongolian
Taiwanese (Hokkien Min Nan)
Wu


Did I say it was easy? If you think learning any foreign language you have zero exposure to is easy, then by all means go pick up German, Italian, Latin, whatever and see how 'easy' it is. I said all languages are tough and take time.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13613
On July 10 2011 13:10 Crisco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:07 Utinni wrote:
Why do people say Huk is Korean. He is a foreigner who trains with Koreans... What is not to understand. If you are in the same environment you will adapt. He trains as hard as they do... that is why he can compete.


foreigners are people who train outside of korea. and "Koreans" are people who train in Korea. Therefore, select is a "foreigner" and Huk is a "korean"


Koreans are people who are born in Korea..sorry to burst your flawed logic lol.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13614
NASL is loving MC and sen right now. Nothing like some really good games to help everyone forget about all the other issues. Hopefully they can go off this momentum they have and finish strong tomorrow with more good games and not a lot of problems.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 04:13:42
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13615
On July 10 2011 13:10 deadjawa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:08 Ocedic wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:06 Euronyme wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 Moonwrath wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:01 Medrea wrote:
I understood every word MC said and every point he was trying to get across.

I can't even say that for a LOT of inner city Americans.

His english is really improving. I like that he is making the effort to do it on his own, just like how Jinro learned Korean. I guess Huk said he is trying to learn Korean too, but he's not very good at it or something

It's an incredibly difficult language for native English speakers. It's SO different.


Wouldn't it be just as hard for Swedish people?


Asian languages are not as hard as people make them out to be. The truth is that ALL languages are hard to learn. Asian languages might be slightly different, but like all other languages it's a matter of practice and application.

Category III: Languages which are quite difficult for native English speakers
88 weeks (2200 class hours)(about half that time preferably spent studying in-country)
Arabic
Cantonese
Japanese
Korean
Mandarin
Mongolian
Taiwanese (Hokkien Min Nan)
Wu


You know Ive seen this elsewhere but I know Japanese is not very hard to learn.

The entire language rests on what? 43 syllables was it? English alphabet alone is 26. Im told once all 43 syllables are learned its just a memory game.

Writing it though? Forget it, Asian literacy for there own languages is terrible so I have no chance on earth.
twitch.tv/medrea
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13616
On July 10 2011 13:11 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:11 EndOfTime88 wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:10 Ocedic wrote:

On July 10 2011 13:06 Serpico wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""


I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.


Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment.

No, huk isn't the best foreigner at all. I'd take dimaga/throzain/sen/naniwa/idra before huk because they've been much more consistent.


Idra consistent? Is that a joke?

Huk won Dreamhack, HSC3 and is doing fantastic in Code S. Yeah, what a sloppy, inconsistent player.


I'd consider Idra the most consistent of that group.

If by consistent you mean consistently failing before the top


To koreans.

Like sen just did.

Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13617

On July 10 2011 13:04 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:01 Condor Hero wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Can't believe I actually rely on a Terran whiping MC's butt... sad day for Zerg -.-

dude if anyone can take out mc there its a korean terran.

korean terrans are just scary as shit in general.


Yeah sure but the fact that I have to trust on Koriterrans because Zergs aren't able to handle it is a disgrace...


You have the best Protoss in the world arguable facing a good Zerg but who isn't the same skill level as him, but MC still had some tough games and should have lost if Sen didn't make so many Broods, yet you passively cry about balance? Imagine if that was NesTea or DRG playing, MC would have got rolled. ZvP feels like its favored towards Zerg, the best Toss right now shouldn't be sweating it against anyone other than the best Zergs really
Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13618
On July 10 2011 13:11 dangerjoe wrote:
[image loading]


Rofl was waiting for one of these.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13619
On July 10 2011 13:12 puzzl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:08 Ocedic wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:06 Euronyme wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 Moonwrath wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:01 Medrea wrote:
I understood every word MC said and every point he was trying to get across.

I can't even say that for a LOT of inner city Americans.

His english is really improving. I like that he is making the effort to do it on his own, just like how Jinro learned Korean. I guess Huk said he is trying to learn Korean too, but he's not very good at it or something

It's an incredibly difficult language for native English speakers. It's SO different.


Wouldn't it be just as hard for Swedish people?


Asian languages are not as hard as people make them out to be. The truth is that ALL languages are hard to learn. Asian languages might be slightly different, but like all other languages it's a matter of practice and application.


Spoken like someone who has zero knowledge of linguistics.


I speak Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, English and some German. You're an idiot.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
July 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#13620
On July 10 2011 13:11 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:07 Utinni wrote:
Why do people say Huk is Korean. He is a foreigner who trains with Koreans... What is not to understand. If you are in the same environment you will adapt. He trains as hard as they do... that is why he can compete.


It's kind of a bad term, but basically he's a product of the Korean practise environment, where starcraft has a much better base than in the west. That's why by many he's no longer considered a foreigner.
The whole foreigner thing is not about race, it's about being able to be good without having the same awesome stepping stones as Koreans do.
Kind of like a rooky team vs a pro team.

good way to put it.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
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