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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 02:29:07
July 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#11061
EDIT : nvm
-Terran-
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
July 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#11062
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:22 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
MC vs Sen

Map is Tal'darim alter


In the bottom right is MC

While in the top right is Sen


1:30

MC predicting a 3-1 win


2:00

Pool first for Sen


2:40

Nexus first for MC


4:00

Forge up with 1 cannon going down

First gas being taken as well


5:15

Cyber core finishes, Stargate starts, Metabolic boost for sen.
Old lamps for new!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#11063
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:22 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
MC vs Sen

Map is Tal'darim alter


In the bottom right is MC

While in the top right is Sen


1:30

MC predicting a 3-1 win


2:00

Pool first for Sen


2:40

Nexus first for MC


4:00

Forge up with 1 cannon going down

First gas being taken as well


4:40

MC fully walls off with his core

Sen keeps on droning


5:30

Stargate / warp gates for MC

Ling speed for Sen
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
July 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#11064
On July 10 2011 11:17 TranceStorm wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:15 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:11 Condor Hero wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:08 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:00 Zanno wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:57 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:53 Callosum wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:51 don_kyuhote wrote:
So this so called "16th seed" made it to the final.
I feel sorry for Ret.


Yea, not Puma's fault at all, he's playing awesome, but the league championship should have been closed to league members only. Otherwise there's not much incentive to be in the league.


First off, Ret would have had to beat him, or a very good player at some point. With how Ret played there were probably only 4-5 players he was going to beat out of the 16 so if it wasn't out in the first round it would have been the 2nd.

Also, in the league you are competing for 15 possible spots. Not in the league you are trying to fight through a massive talented open bracket that is single elimination for 1 spot. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that you'd want to be in the league, not to mention the notoriety of having weekly matches broadcast which makes sponsors happy and helps grow your name and brand.

Bah, shouldn't have even responded to comments. Either you aren't thinking through anything, or I'm getting trolled. Either way wasn't worth the time.
it sets a bad precedent though

if puma wins then other pros will be like oh well i'm not going to waste my time playing in the league i'll just play in the open and if i can beat everyone in that, then i'll be unstoppable in the tournament

you have to understand there's a finite number of hours in the day, and NASL is a huge time-sink for no potential reward, time that could better be spent streaming or playing in smaller cups


Actually that is a horrible way to think of it and NO pro would think that way. The NASL isn't a time sink, it is 1 day a week and a BO3. You are WAY better off playing in the NASL, for a chance at 50k, plus publicity which will grow your streams, brands, lessons for players, etc. than winning a bunch of 100-500 dollar cups. Just being on the NASL and seen, getting interviewed, hyped each week, etc. that is all a big deal. I think if you asked all the NASL players if they benefited from being in the league, even the ones that didn't win much, they'd all say def. I bet if you asked them, "Hey you can play in the league again, OR try to win a single elimination open bracket full of Koreans and other top gamers, which would you like to do?"

Seriously, read through what you actually wrote, It doesn't set a bad precedent at all. If anything it might have players who think they are better than Puma try to get into the league, so they would have an easier shot at securing 1 of those 15 spots and win the whole thing.

And just because you win the open doesn't mean you'll be unstoppable at an event that has some of the best talent in the world. He just happens to be playing really well.


it is a huge time sink for the top players like mc and naniwa. those people get invited to all the best tournies anyways and they have to wake up at odd times and play with latency (a huge disadvantage that becomes apparent when even class A koreans dominate lans)

Id say nasl is great for not so well known players because they get to expose themselves but itd be foolish to not see how it could be annoyingly long for some people.


It's a few hours ONE day a week for players that spend a ridiculous amount of time practicing the game anyway. The total time invested in the league for the benefits ... people just think of it to black and white. Gaining fans, popularity, etc. it all adds to your personal value. It is well worth a few hours one day a week. That isn't a time sink, learn what a time sink is. Go talk to MMO players, they know all about time sinks.

I think a problem is that a majority of the revenues made by the NASL are through the weekly matches and through the quality of those matches (given that there are so many) - for a person to win simply by winning a side tournament (which admittedly is a great achievement) sort of throws the tournament off balance.


Not really, it was advertised and documented that there would be 1 open bracket spot. So if you chose to get into the league, you can fight for 15 spots. There was a chance for anyone that didn't get into the league to fight through an open bracket. MLG does this in a modified way basically with their new format.

GSL is offering the SAME thing with their Code S/Code A exchange program that people have NO problem with. Would there be the same outrage if someone were to win MLG, get placed directly into Code S, and then won it?

It is basically in place to allow players that didn't make the 50 man league a chance to get in. It is a loophole so that if they can't get all 50 players they want, or we all want, they still have a chance to win it and that makes things interesting and exciting. It is a cool story if Puma wins coming from the Open bracket like that. It doesn't devalue the league play which got us 15 incredible players in a tournament.

At this point, it doesn't matter really how the 16 players got here, it is just about who comes out on top regardless.
DuB phool
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1003 Posts
July 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#11065
On July 10 2011 11:22 dangerjoe wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:21 Geolich wrote:
lol. the player cam reaction to that 3-0 then 'ok 3-1' was hilarious.


damn i missed it. i bet he smiled :D

Yeah, they were both grinning almost as much as I was. MC love!
"overwatch is jesus" - motbob 2016
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#11066
wow, how many times have I seen this building placement on this map, in these positions, from MC lol.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#11067
hidden 3rd from Sen
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#11068
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:22 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
MC vs Sen

Map is Tal'darim alter


In the bottom right is MC

While in the top right is Sen


1:30

MC predicting a 3-1 win


2:00

Pool first for Sen


2:40

Nexus first for MC


4:00

Forge up with 1 cannon going down

First gas being taken as well


4:40

MC fully walls off with his core

Sen keeps on droning


5:30

Stargate / warp gates for MC

Ling speed for Sen


6:20

Third base for Sen hidden in the north
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11069
Sen should really expect Void Rays. Does MC do anything else in PvZ?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11070
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:22 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
MC vs Sen

Map is Tal'darim alter


In the bottom right is MC

While in the top right is Sen


1:30

MC predicting a 3-1 win


2:00

Pool first for Sen


2:40

Nexus first for MC


4:00

Forge up with 1 cannon going down

First gas being taken as well


4:40

MC fully walls off with his core

Sen keeps on droning


5:30

Stargate / warp gates for MC

Ling speed for Sen


6:20

Third base for Sen hidden in the north


7:00

Void ray for Sen
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11071
Does it blow anyone's mind that this is ATLEAST at $20,000 match?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11072
sen has to take risks to beat MC
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11073
On July 10 2011 11:24 Vertical wrote:
anyway, how long do we need to wait before we can watch the 3rd placement match ?


3rd place match is tomorrow before the finals
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11074
On July 10 2011 11:25 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:22 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:21 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:20 Drazerk wrote:
MC vs Sen

Map is Tal'darim alter


In the bottom right is MC

While in the top right is Sen


1:30

MC predicting a 3-1 win


2:00

Pool first for Sen


2:40

Nexus first for MC


4:00

Forge up with 1 cannon going down

First gas being taken as well


4:40

MC fully walls off with his core

Sen keeps on droning


5:30

Stargate / warp gates for MC

Ling speed for Sen


6:20

Third base for Sen hidden in the north


7:00

Void ray for Sen


7:20

Evo chamber and lair for sen
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11075
On July 10 2011 11:24 KimJongChill wrote:
wow, how many times have I seen this building placement on this map, in these positions, from MC lol.

It's also worth mentioning that MC always does this build.
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11076
LOL
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Worldatlarge
Profile Joined June 2011
United States649 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11077
Gonna see that penix play
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 10 2011 02:25 GMT
#11078
the hell artosis it tastes great
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
July 10 2011 02:26 GMT
#11079
lmao @ that taste joke
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 10 2011 02:26 GMT
#11080
Sen is like a hallucinated Korean. If you don't have detection, you may think he's Korean at first, and then you will be surprised.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
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