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Stop being so silly over women in esports. Rude comments will be banned for! (from page 78). Be sure to keep the topic excellent, please!
lxanderl
Profile Joined April 2011
United States629 Posts
July 10 2011 02:27 GMT
#11101
mc is awesome but rootin for Sen
TAIWAN REPRESENT
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
July 10 2011 02:27 GMT
#11102
Crowd being pretty responsive, nice to see.
Jtn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
444 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11103
GO SEN
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11104
BISU PvZ style AWWW YEAH!!!!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11105
On July 10 2011 11:27 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:26 Drazerk wrote:
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2:40

Nexus first for MC


4:00

Forge up with 1 cannon going down

First gas being taken as well


4:40

MC fully walls off with his core

Sen keeps on droning


5:30

Stargate / warp gates for MC

Ling speed for Sen


6:20

Third base for Sen hidden in the north


7:00

Void ray for Sen


7:20

Evo chamber and lair for sen


8:30

MC is about to scout the hidden third


8:50

Queen pops out and drives the void out

9:30

Queen dies but there is mass spores


10:30

Hydras for Sen

Charge for MC


11:10


Pathogen glands being researched
Daedra
Profile Joined February 2011
United States268 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11106
Cmon MC!
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11107
On July 10 2011 11:26 SEANSYE wrote:
Artosis doesn't like PB&J :X?


Did you know I just found out that Americans call jam 'jelly'. I actually thought you hate peanut butter with actual jelly, what you call 'jello'.
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11108
Nydus worm him down Sen!!
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 02:29:25
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11109
On July 10 2011 11:24 FLuE wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:15 FLuE wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:08 FLuE wrote:
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On July 10 2011 10:57 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:53 Callosum wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:51 don_kyuhote wrote:
So this so called "16th seed" made it to the final.
I feel sorry for Ret.


Yea, not Puma's fault at all, he's playing awesome, but the league championship should have been closed to league members only. Otherwise there's not much incentive to be in the league.


First off, Ret would have had to beat him, or a very good player at some point. With how Ret played there were probably only 4-5 players he was going to beat out of the 16 so if it wasn't out in the first round it would have been the 2nd.

Also, in the league you are competing for 15 possible spots. Not in the league you are trying to fight through a massive talented open bracket that is single elimination for 1 spot. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that you'd want to be in the league, not to mention the notoriety of having weekly matches broadcast which makes sponsors happy and helps grow your name and brand.

Bah, shouldn't have even responded to comments. Either you aren't thinking through anything, or I'm getting trolled. Either way wasn't worth the time.
it sets a bad precedent though

if puma wins then other pros will be like oh well i'm not going to waste my time playing in the league i'll just play in the open and if i can beat everyone in that, then i'll be unstoppable in the tournament

you have to understand there's a finite number of hours in the day, and NASL is a huge time-sink for no potential reward, time that could better be spent streaming or playing in smaller cups


Actually that is a horrible way to think of it and NO pro would think that way. The NASL isn't a time sink, it is 1 day a week and a BO3. You are WAY better off playing in the NASL, for a chance at 50k, plus publicity which will grow your streams, brands, lessons for players, etc. than winning a bunch of 100-500 dollar cups. Just being on the NASL and seen, getting interviewed, hyped each week, etc. that is all a big deal. I think if you asked all the NASL players if they benefited from being in the league, even the ones that didn't win much, they'd all say def. I bet if you asked them, "Hey you can play in the league again, OR try to win a single elimination open bracket full of Koreans and other top gamers, which would you like to do?"

Seriously, read through what you actually wrote, It doesn't set a bad precedent at all. If anything it might have players who think they are better than Puma try to get into the league, so they would have an easier shot at securing 1 of those 15 spots and win the whole thing.

And just because you win the open doesn't mean you'll be unstoppable at an event that has some of the best talent in the world. He just happens to be playing really well.


it is a huge time sink for the top players like mc and naniwa. those people get invited to all the best tournies anyways and they have to wake up at odd times and play with latency (a huge disadvantage that becomes apparent when even class A koreans dominate lans)

Id say nasl is great for not so well known players because they get to expose themselves but itd be foolish to not see how it could be annoyingly long for some people.


It's a few hours ONE day a week for players that spend a ridiculous amount of time practicing the game anyway. The total time invested in the league for the benefits ... people just think of it to black and white. Gaining fans, popularity, etc. it all adds to your personal value. It is well worth a few hours one day a week. That isn't a time sink, learn what a time sink is. Go talk to MMO players, they know all about time sinks.

I think a problem is that a majority of the revenues made by the NASL are through the weekly matches and through the quality of those matches (given that there are so many) - for a person to win simply by winning a side tournament (which admittedly is a great achievement) sort of throws the tournament off balance.


Not really, it was advertised and documented that there would be 1 open bracket spot. So if you chose to get into the league, you can fight for 15 spots. There was a chance for anyone that didn't get into the league to fight through an open bracket. MLG does this in a modified way basically with their new format.

GSL is offering the SAME thing with their Code S/Code A exchange program that people have NO problem with. Would there be the same outrage if someone were to win MLG, get placed directly into Code S, and then won it?

It is basically in place to allow players that didn't make the 50 man league a chance to get in. It is a loophole so that if they can't get all 50 players they want, or we all want, they still have a chance to win it and that makes things interesting and exciting. It is a cool story if Puma wins coming from the Open bracket like that. It doesn't devalue the league play which got us 15 incredible players in a tournament.

At this point, it doesn't matter really how the 16 players got here, it is just about who comes out on top regardless.
it's more than just 1 bo3 a week, it's 1 bo3 a week that's notoriously inflexible

dreamhack? walkover, no reschedule
korean vs korean playing? still have to play at 4 am

esssentially any small tournament taking place during your division is completely locked down

if one of the NASL players were to be in the GSL Code S finals, would they allow a rescheduling of that match? precedent says they would not, given how they've treated people who got stuck on delayed flights from attending other tournaments before

they were actually so arrogant that they expected the NASL players attending MLG to play their matches out at MLG on their computers, and i'm glad that MLG refused to allow any of the NASL players to do it

aaaaa
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11110
On July 10 2011 11:27 aristarchus wrote:
No rocks at the third? Are they using this version on purpose?


NASL has been pretty retarded when it comes to maps all season if im not misstaken?
God is dead.
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11111
Ironic how stargate is better vs a race who's bread and butter is a ranged unit.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11112
On July 10 2011 11:28 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:27 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:27 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:26 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:25 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:25 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

4:00

Forge up with 1 cannon going down

First gas being taken as well


4:40

MC fully walls off with his core

Sen keeps on droning


5:30

Stargate / warp gates for MC

Ling speed for Sen


6:20

Third base for Sen hidden in the north


7:00

Void ray for Sen


7:20

Evo chamber and lair for sen


8:30

MC is about to scout the hidden third


8:50

Queen pops out and drives the void out

9:30

Queen dies but there is mass spores


10:30

Hydras for Sen

Charge for MC


11:10


Pathogen glands being researched


11:30

Fourth base going up for Sen

MC kills his core
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11113
Switching to chargelots. Scary, but Sen's got infestors coming up as well.
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11114
omg MC gonna do the Sage
Hi!
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
July 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#11115
MC in bad, bad shape.
Jtn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
444 Posts
July 10 2011 02:29 GMT
#11116
lol I have never heard anyone refer to zerg units being "born"
Worldatlarge
Profile Joined June 2011
United States649 Posts
July 10 2011 02:29 GMT
#11117
If Sen holds this, I don't know how MC can win
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 10 2011 02:29 GMT
#11118
On July 10 2011 11:28 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:26 SEANSYE wrote:
Artosis doesn't like PB&J :X?


Did you know I just found out that Americans call jam 'jelly'. I actually thought you hate peanut butter with actual jelly, what you call 'jello'.

We have jam too, the difference is jam is usually has more fruit chunks in it
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 02:29 GMT
#11119
On July 10 2011 11:28 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:28 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:27 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:27 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:26 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:25 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:25 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:24 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:23 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

4:40

MC fully walls off with his core

Sen keeps on droning


5:30

Stargate / warp gates for MC

Ling speed for Sen


6:20

Third base for Sen hidden in the north


7:00

Void ray for Sen


7:20

Evo chamber and lair for sen


8:30

MC is about to scout the hidden third


8:50

Queen pops out and drives the void out

9:30

Queen dies but there is mass spores


10:30

Hydras for Sen

Charge for MC


11:10


Pathogen glands being researched


11:30

Fourth base going up for Sen

MC kills his core


12:30

Sexy creep spread

Armies engaging
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 10 2011 02:29 GMT
#11120
Zealots doin work!
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
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