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On July 09 2011 09:47 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 09:45 ribboo wrote:On July 09 2011 09:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 09 2011 09:40 ribboo wrote:On July 09 2011 09:35 Irave wrote:On July 09 2011 09:34 Alzadar wrote:
What is this hour long break for? Autograph sessions people getting food stretching. People in this thread should take advantage of it instead of complaining about it. yes lots of important stuff going on 02:40 am Take a nap. You knew this tournament was going to be at a horrible time for you. 5 am or 7-8 am is a big difference, i knew i would be able to watch MC/boxer, now I know i cant, and that sux Well I had the same exact problems during DreamHack. It all just comes down to where you live. Its going to be at a terrible time for someone, no matter when it is on.
and if you felt like complaining at DH being 2h late and then taking breaks at that, I would not have complained. huge mess ups like this aren't acceptable in sports, why should we accept it? this I even payed for.
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On July 09 2011 09:48 Akash1223 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 09:47 Bobster wrote:On July 09 2011 09:46 Akash1223 wrote:
In starcraft "Korean" means living and training in Korea. For evidence just look at the 13 "Korean" invites for TSL3. "Korean" means being from Korea, not living in Korea. You can't just make up your own rules. TLO is not a Swede, Dirk Nowitzki is not American, Lionel Messi is not Spanish. I'm not making up my own rules. The people who run the tournament decided that Huk, Idra, Haypro, Ret, etc count as Korean. I think they're more qualified than you or I to judge what soemthing means in the context of starcraft.
No, they decided that Huk, Haypro, Ret and Idra played on the korean server and could therefore not participate in qualification
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God why is all terran music so imba? ever since bw.
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On July 09 2011 09:47 dpL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 09:44 julianto wrote:
Wow there's like 3 discussions going on at the same time:
- NASL's production value
- Is HuK considered a "Korean"?
- Rebecca Black's "fuckability"
Let's start a meta-discussion about this thread! How fuckable is the NASL? (answer: It has already made me deaf in one ear which means we are practically a married couple at this point. Whether or not this makes the NASL fuckable, well, I have no idea.) HuK's production value (answer: not great, refused makeup at the GSL.) Rebecca Black, Korean? (answer: Friday Friday Friday)
You deserve a medal sir
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On July 09 2011 09:48 tree.hugger wrote:
Is Sen about to get stabbed? Is he trapped in there? Has somebody called 911? Are they trying to get him out? He looks calm so far. But how long has he been in that dark closet? Where is the scary music coming from? Oh god Sen, watch out. SEN! SEN! Oh my god the music is picking up. It's getting faster. That's not good. Oh no, a choir is coming into the background. Brass instruments are picking up. The tempo is getting faster. OH MY GOD SEN GET OUT OF THERE. SOMETHING TERRIBLE IS GOING TO HAPPEN. SEN WATCH OUT SEN.
THANK YOU TREE.HUGGER!! YOU JUST MAD MY NASL A POSITIVE EXPERINCE! 
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On July 09 2011 09:51 SEANSYE wrote:
God why is all terran music so imba? ever since bw.
first good balance whine i have seen in this entire thread. Terran Music is so sick!
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On July 09 2011 09:50 SuperFanBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 09:47 Bobster wrote:On July 09 2011 09:46 Akash1223 wrote:
In starcraft "Korean" means living and training in Korea. For evidence just look at the 13 "Korean" invites for TSL3. "Korean" means being from Korea, not living in Korea. "Korean" means being able to play for Korea in a nationwar. You can't just make up your own rules. TLO is not a Swede, Dirk Nowitzki is not American, Lionel Messi is not Spanish. Yes but Huk's success should be credited to him living in korea... Huk is the only real foreign pro gamer because hes living with the oGs crew and practicing like them, the koreans are a level above everyone else not because they are genetically better, but rather they are better because of the way they live and practice to be a pro gamer.
Oh yes, I 100% agree. Huk's practice environment in the oGs house definitely is the primary factor for the success of this Canadian in the Korean scene and in Europe.
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On July 09 2011 09:49 LastDance wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 09:45 SuperFanBoy wrote:
I use to dislike Huk very much, but he has won me over simply because he has the balls to move to korea and actually want to be a pro gamer and win tournaments.
The reason Huk is doing so well is because hes in the oGs house practicing, Huk is a real pro gamer he moved to korea to develop his skills, all the other pro gamers who don't move to korea are contempt with being a level lower than the real pro gamers living in korea. I consider pro gamers who aren't in korea, casual gamers.
Select is korean yet we consider him a foreigner, huk is the opposite and we don't consider him korean? Sure he might be canadian, but hes practicing with the korean team and hes playing like a korean.
but select has spent much of his life in American if I'm not wrong. HuK has been in Korean for less than a year.
I thought select was a transfer student in a "study abroad" program? I'm pretty sure he's going back to korea no?
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On July 09 2011 09:46 ct2299 wrote:
i KNEW it. I even bet my close friend that the day HuK won anything substantial (Dreamhack), I knew foreigners would suddenly say he's NOT Korean. For months now, people used HuK as the argument for why Korean training didn't necessarily mean superiority and whenever there was a Koreans vs Foreigners argument, HuK was at the center of attention as an argument as to why Koreans were not better (aka. HuK was considered KOREAN).
Now that HuK has won two tournaments, now the foreigners are embracing him again. Hahahahaha, so ridiculous. Completely laughable.
Can you really use Messi as an example? I'd argue not because Argentina's football regiment is already very rigorous (unlike NA SC2 regiment vs Korean SC2). You could say Messi is Spanish trained, but at the end of the day, the Argentinian regiment he went through before going to Spain was already pretty intense, and going to Spain only built on what he had. Was HuK always amazing? That's debatable, but when he went to Korea he was hardly owning it up, it wasn't until he spent time training under the Korean regiment that he became as good as he has become lately. So to reiterate, I don't think your argument applies.
I bet with my friend as soon as HuK or Jinro won anything, people would consider them Foreigners again, I was right. Why are foreigners so desperate to have a "champion" that they can call "foreign" when the player themself has already considered themself Korean (like Jinro and HuK have openly admitted).
I love you. For saying my exact thoughts.
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I am going to sleep now, maybe I will still be able to watch Sen vs. Zenio live when I wake up.
The only thing that entertained about NASL so far are unintentional funny things like awkward interviews and the Starcraft-Community.
MLG Anaheim will be great.
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On July 09 2011 09:38 Scribble wrote:
If I studied in Germany, does that make me German? No.
If Huk trains in Korea, does that make him Korean? You tell me.
This is the most ridiculous debate since the .999 = 1 arguments on the old B.net forums.
Thats a terrible fuckin comparison. Let me throw in another terrible comparison. Korean dude immigrates to America, learns the language, gets a job, becomes a citizen. Does that not make him American? This is about "Korean training" and how Huk has successfuly integrated himself into that system and reaped the benefits. He plays like a Korean and thats what everyone means when they say hes korean. So many retards in here...
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On July 09 2011 09:46 Bobster wrote:I consider you wrong. edit: and while you are the only one considering your consideration, I'm certainly not. DeMuslim is not a German. TLO is not a Swede. What the hell is wrong with you guys? 
they just witnessed beating by koreans and they are jumping into bandwagon that EU/NA cannot be good anymore without going into korea, such a sublime excuse or maybe autopsy from the past (bw) who knows,
Idra was longer in Korea yet there wasnt even dispute about him being korean(at least not that blatant), because there was no korean presensce in NA/EU tournies, seems like a good excuse for our own NA/EU players
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This is a starcraft thing. Actual nationality is not really relevant, it's all about training regimen.
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When does the tournament resume?
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Kittens are getting punched if the next match doesn't happen soon, I can't even fathom what is making them take hour long breaks in between sets, or why they at least don't have something to entertain the stream watchers during the downtime.
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On July 09 2011 09:50 Ludwigvan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 09:49 InvalidID wrote:On July 09 2011 09:48 BlindDruid wrote:On July 09 2011 09:27 FLuE wrote:
At this point the people from Germany complaining non-stop in this thread about the same shit over and over are 10 times worse than the sound quality or delay of the NASL.
that's how we germans roll - unfortunately I'm not even kidding. Complaining about everything which isn't perfect just for the sake of complaining. It's annoying to see though - and everytime I read threads on TL or on a foreign website, always the german-speaking people are the most nitpicky guys. That's probably why you make really good cars though  good cars? You must be kidding.
not good cars.... the best cars!
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On July 09 2011 09:53 Ramble wrote:
When does the tournament resume?
tomorrow
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On July 09 2011 09:52 MaxField wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 09:51 SEANSYE wrote:
God why is all terran music so imba? ever since bw. first good balance whine i have seen in this entire thread. Terran Music is so sick!
Look I'm not trying to start a conspiracy, but terran usually had the best winning percentage/most top players since bw. Its gotta be the music.
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On July 09 2011 09:48 Akash1223 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 09:47 Bobster wrote:On July 09 2011 09:46 Akash1223 wrote:
In starcraft "Korean" means living and training in Korea. For evidence just look at the 13 "Korean" invites for TSL3. "Korean" means being from Korea, not living in Korea. You can't just make up your own rules. TLO is not a Swede, Dirk Nowitzki is not American, Lionel Messi is not Spanish. I'm not making up my own rules. The people who run the tournament decided that Huk, Idra, Haypro, Ret, etc count as Korean. I think they're more qualified than you or I to judge what soemthing means in the context of starcraft.
So if an organizer of a starcraft tournament tells you: "You are korean" - then you are?
And what if they tell you, you're a iraki? They organize the tournament, it's their call - deal with it...
What a logic...
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where are we at at the moment, is sen vs zenio over already? (don't tell me it hasn't even started)
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