The sixth season overall and the second season with StarCraft II of the Intel Extreme Masters is going to kick-off at the world's largest trade fair and event highlight for interactive games and entertainment: gamescom in Cologne. Last year's tournament was the first major live event in StarCraft II's history and we are looking to top its success this year!
But first things first: Instead of inviting players from all around the world ESL and its enterprises will host online qualifiers in the next couple of weeks!
On July 01 2011 23:08 sleepingdog wrote: Is there any reason why Killer is directly invited to the American final while everyone else seems to have to go through a gigantic bracket?
Not that I dislike him...just...why? IdrA and Select I can understand based on their previous results/performance.
I can answer that
KiLLeR is regular top performer in our Go4SC2 Cups winning weekly cups and monthly finals.
Hmm why isn't Morrow invited given that he won the same tournament last year? Or is it just that he's win was already rewarded by a seed in the IEM World Champs?
Korea doesn't have qualifiers because there's no Korean division of ESL.
On July 02 2011 02:05 pdd wrote: Hmm why isn't Morrow invited given that he won the same tournament last year? Or is it just that he's win was already rewarded by a seed in the IEM World Champs?
Exactly. Same with Fenix and qxc, hence the new invites.
On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier
:/
i know that this is a European league but cmon
I'm from Europe and also have always been of the opinion that EU > NA...but I agree. Especially since Socke is seeded, so it's 8 EU vs 2 NA. And EU isn't 4 times better than NA lol.
there's only 5 NA players (6 if you include Huk which is debatable) on the first page for ELO ranking. the top 2 NA players are Idra at rank 16 and Killer at rank 26 and they already have invites to the final qualifier. the other 3 NA players are Fenix, Sheth, and Vibe and they occupy ranks 36 through 38.
so for ranks 1 through 35, there are 2 NA players occupying spots and the rest are mostly filled by EU and KR players. I find it difficult to disagree with ESL choosing to have a 7 EU:2 NA qualifier ratio.
On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier
:/
i know that this is a European league but cmon
Maybe they have a system. Both American participants (Fenix and qxc) were last in their group without winning a single series (and match?) at the IEM at Cebit and Idra was an Korean invite. You can't blame them and in my opinion 7-2 is pretty fair.
7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier 4 Korean Invitees 1 Chinese Player via Qualifer 1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier 1 National Champion of Host Nation
Right let's make some predictions
South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC American Players = Idra, Select European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully
On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier
:/
i know that this is a European league but cmon
Maybe they have a system. Both American participants (Fenix and qxc) were last in their group without winning a single series (and match?) at the IEM at Cebit and Idra was an Korean invite. You can't blame them and in my opinion 7-2 is pretty fair.
By that logic, SEA would have more qualifying spots, since mOOnGLaDe went the furthest of all of the non-Koreans. It's probably just because there are a lot more top quality SC2 players in all of Europe, which equates to about a 7:2 ratio.
That and IEM is European in origin, you can't blame them.
On July 02 2011 09:11 Tidus Mino wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier 4 Korean Invitees 1 Chinese Player via Qualifer 1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier 1 National Champion of Host Nation
Right let's make some predictions
South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC American Players = Idra, Select European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully
On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier
:/
i know that this is a European league but cmon
I'm from Europe and also have always been of the opinion that EU > NA...but I agree. Especially since Socke is seeded, so it's 8 EU vs 2 NA. And EU isn't 4 times better than NA lol.
i agree EU aint 4times better, more like infinitely (j/k). But really, 7 to 2 seems to be fair considering the balance between the continents right now imho.
Can't wait for this tournament though, looks great
They better invite Huk!! hopefully another liquid will qualify, I think I'll drive to cologne again for this one! I actually thought that only the sennheiser cup would take place at gamescom ^^ So happy that I was wrong
Just so we are clear, the reason the qualification spots are like this is because the event is in Europe. Future events in different locations will have different qualifications. So if there's an event in Asia, more Asian SC2 players will be invited. If there's an event in North America more North American SC2 players will be invited.
First round of qualifiers is over. Congratulations to Kas and DieStar for securing slots for gamescom!
In America Attero, KawaiiRice, TT1 and drewbie qualified for the American Final. Congrats and good luck to them!
In SEA mOOnGLaDe and MaFia claimed the first two spots for the SEA Final. Good luck!
I also added informaton regarding the Chinese Qualifier to the OP (happening in about 15 hours!). We will know who will attend gamescom and represent China's SC2 community very soon!
On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier
:/
i know that this is a European league but cmon
America got Idra , Huk , Select and Kiwikaki..
Europe got EmpireHappy, roxkisBratOK, imbaFXOStrelok, EmpireNerchio, MǂStephano, mTwDIMAGA ,dignitasNaniwa, aTnSocke, DuckloadRa , Kas, Hasuobs , Thorzain , Cloud , Morrow and Sjow ... who all are on the same level like the upper 4 or higher.. I think Europe just got more higher ranked players..
On July 02 2011 01:47 Carush wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier
:/
i know that this is a European league but cmon
America got Idra , Huk , Select and Kiwikaki..
Europe got EmpireHappy, roxkisBratOK, imbaFXOStrelok, EmpireNerchio, MǂStephano, mTwDIMAGA ,dignitasNaniwa, aTnSocke, DuckloadRa , Kas, Hasuobs , Thorzain , Cloud , Morrow and Sjow ... who all are on the same level like the upper 4 or higher.. I think Europe just got more higher ranked players..
Allready explained, got nothing to do about player skill, but more about location.
Gotta love WarCraft III legends Axslav and SonKiE doing well in last night's American qualifier. Looking forward to the final, can't wait to see how they will fare against the very best.
there's only 5 NA players (6 if you include Huk which is debatable) on the first page for ELO ranking. the top 2 NA players are Idra at rank 16 and Killer at rank 26 and they already have invites to the final qualifier. the other 3 NA players are Fenix, Sheth, and Vibe and they occupy ranks 36 through 38.
so for ranks 1 through 35, there are 2 NA players occupying spots and the rest are mostly filled by EU and KR players. I find it difficult to disagree with ESL choosing to have a 7 EU:2 NA qualifier ratio.
ELO ranking is utterly useless. Europeans play much more small cups which inflates their rankings, while Idra plays MC all the time lol. Basically if you play more small cups you will get a higher ELO, it's not indicative of anything.
OP: Do you have any rough schedule on the actual tournament at Gamescon yet? Just the days would be enough. I would love to go again but need to plan rather long term this time so I would need to know the days of Gamescon the tournament is on.
On July 07 2011 21:01 zatic wrote: OP: Do you have any rough schedule on the actual tournament at Gamescon yet? Just the days would be enough. I would love to go again but need to plan rather long term this time so I would need to know the days of Gamescon the tournament is on.
On July 07 2011 21:01 zatic wrote: OP: Do you have any rough schedule on the actual tournament at Gamescon yet? Just the days would be enough. I would love to go again but need to plan rather long term this time so I would need to know the days of Gamescon the tournament is on.
Current plan is to show as many games as possible in both League of Legends and StarCraft II (as in: not miss a single one on stream). Groupstage on the first two days (Wednesday/Thursday), Bracket play on the remaining three (Friday/Saturday/Sunday). Something along those lines...
On July 10 2011 21:39 Tppz! wrote: I really dislike that SEA gets a spot but LA doesnt. After all there is only 1 "okisch" player in SEA but a lot of good ppl in LA (Major, Fenix, etc).
SEA doesnt deserve a spot if you look at the skilllevel of the server.
On July 10 2011 21:39 Tppz! wrote: I really dislike that SEA gets a spot but LA doesnt. After all there is only 1 "okisch" player in SEA but a lot of good ppl in LA (Major, Fenix, etc).
SEA doesnt deserve a spot if you look at the skilllevel of the server.
Fenix made the last IEM?
And yeh, Moonglade had to defeat Loner, who defeated Sen in the Asian semi final, to advance. Considering he got 4th (I think), was definitely worthy of a place
On July 10 2011 21:39 Tppz! wrote: I really dislike that SEA gets a spot but LA doesnt. After all there is only 1 "okisch" player in SEA but a lot of good ppl in LA (Major, Fenix, etc).
SEA doesnt deserve a spot if you look at the skilllevel of the server.
On July 10 2011 23:31 eYeball wrote: What was the prize last IEM to enter?
Last gamescom was purely invitational. For the later stages of IEM (European championship etc) you needed an ESL premium account (just like you do now).
On July 10 2011 21:59 razy wrote: lol wtf tarson again has the easiest grid O_O
The seedings are based on Go4sc2/IEM performances and Tarson is #1 place there, that's why. Same reason why SjoW is #2.
It's actually based on other tournaments as well (Dreamhack, MLG, GSL, etc). That's why NaNiwa would be seeded 10th although he was disqualified from last IEM. Sadly he refuses to participate with "such a bad seed"...
On July 10 2011 23:20 Zeon0 wrote: yeah, he gambled by rushing into morphing banes and lost. imho that was the deciding moment
Yeah, that was the deciding moment and it's really ridiculous that Demuslim says he played better after such a huge gamble move and fail.
He's still struggling with his TvZ atm, gets really down about it. He's not really a BMer, just vents sometimes - he openly admits hes a whiner. Hopefully when he moves to the EG house his TvZ will improve a lot with loads of Idra practice.
On July 10 2011 21:39 Tppz! wrote: I really dislike that SEA gets a spot but LA doesnt. After all there is only 1 "okisch" player in SEA but a lot of good ppl in LA (Major, Fenix, etc).
SEA doesnt deserve a spot if you look at the skilllevel of the server.
Doesn't Taiwan share that spot?
not anymore after glade's performance.
and bugger off about there only being only 1 "okisch" player in the region. there's a host of decent players here, but not everyone gets free handouts worth thousands of dollars to fly overseas for tournaments.
Taiwan does not play on SEA server?.... Taiwan shares the spot with China, not with SEA, but because Taiwan does not belong to the countries which are SEA, AND are still being forced to call themselves Chinese Taipei. Last time moonglade beat loner who beat sen durin the Asia Grand Final tournament. Moonglade had already gotten 1st in the SEA quantity and Loner beat Sen To win the Chinese qualifier. The problem was they made SEA and China share 1 qualifier spot.
On July 10 2011 21:39 Tppz! wrote: I really dislike that SEA gets a spot but LA doesnt. After all there is only 1 "okisch" player in SEA but a lot of good ppl in LA (Major, Fenix, etc).
SEA doesnt deserve a spot if you look at the skilllevel of the server.
Yet that one 'okish' player went further than any other foreigner at IEM. Besides, SEA is a bigger area.
What happened to all the Lowely Beastyqt Tarson business? First the bracket said that Lowely won against Beasty, now its 2-0 in favour of beasty and in the next round Tarson def wins Beasty? I am confused :/
after that awesome TvZ On Metaloplois Xlord Hopefuly learned 2 things . 1. Take the Gold Whenever you have Infestors with NP avaible works prety good for some time against siege makes mining avaible
2. 4 Ultralisk drops make sure you take out a PF expansion
and ps it was genius move by Satini to use that long in the air vs air fight not the seeker missles after such a long tiresome match the surprise of the seeker was to much for the reaction time.
Even tho u got not directly a answere for this kind of defense other then using meatshields and using Infestors with NP vs the tanks or some kind of drop of the tanks in wich case id prefer the infestor / meatshield way and before laming with melee based drops but imagine Satini adding a tight wall to that pf walls would be even worse.
On July 11 2011 02:43 alepov wrote: love it how everyones surprised when goody DOESN'T queue or float.
Goody has really improved his macro, that joke is getting pretty outdated.
Saw him recently in some tournament, i think it was HSC, where he still queue'd 3 factories full of tanks. Unless you mean he suddenly l2macro in a couple of weeks
On July 11 2011 03:53 sixfour wrote: wow why on earth did nightend try to break that?
He saw 3 spines and went to break it but there were 6 and it was already too late to pull back since Muta were in his base. I think the attack was more of a "sigh this sucks let me just chill for a few seconds before GGing"
On July 02 2011 09:11 Tidus Mino wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier 4 Korean Invitees 1 Chinese Player via Qualifer 1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier 1 National Champion of Host Nation
Right let's make some predictions
South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC American Players = Idra, Select European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully
On July 02 2011 09:11 Tidus Mino wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier 4 Korean Invitees 1 Chinese Player via Qualifer 1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier 1 National Champion of Host Nation
Right let's make some predictions
South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC American Players = Idra, Select European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully
On July 02 2011 09:11 Tidus Mino wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier 4 Korean Invitees 1 Chinese Player via Qualifer 1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier 1 National Champion of Host Nation
Right let's make some predictions
South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC American Players = Idra, Select European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully
sen is a chinese player!
He is Taiwanese not Chinese xD
oh well, he still has to play in the Chinese qualifiers if he wants to play, which I don't think he will. Isn't he gonna play at Anaheim instead?
On July 02 2011 09:11 Tidus Mino wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier 4 Korean Invitees 1 Chinese Player via Qualifer 1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier 1 National Champion of Host Nation
Right let's make some predictions
South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC American Players = Idra, Select European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully
Lol what makes you think that loner is still relevant. All the Chinese Warcraft 3 players (like infi) are going to tear up the Chinese qualifiers
On July 02 2011 09:11 Tidus Mino wrote: 7 European Players via Qualifier 2 American Players via Qualifier 4 Korean Invitees 1 Chinese Player via Qualifer 1 South-East Asian Player via Qualifier 1 National Champion of Host Nation
Right let's make some predictions
South-East Asian player = mOOnGlaDe or Sen Chinese players = Loner or Lovecd Korean Invites = HuK, Losira, MKP, MC American Players = Idra, Select European Players = Socke, White-Ra, Naniwa, Demuslim, Ret, Tarson, Happy National Champion = TLO as he'll be playing again by then hopefully
Lol what makes you think that loner is still relevant. All the Chinese Warcraft 3 players (like infi) are going to tear up the Chinese qualifiers
Well, Loner placed 3rd on G-force tournament, losing to LoveTT. He must be training.
mOOnGLaDe made it! Congrats to him and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing him back in yet another Intel Extreme Masters event!
The very last European qualifier is going to happen tomorrow at Sunday, Jul 17 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). RotterdaM and TaKe will be casting that tournament for ESL TV. Can't wait!
On July 10 2011 21:39 Tppz! wrote: I really dislike that SEA gets a spot but LA doesnt. After all there is only 1 "okisch" player in SEA but a lot of good ppl in LA (Major, Fenix, etc).
SEA doesnt deserve a spot if you look at the skilllevel of the server.
Don't take this the wrong way but your an idiot.....that one "Okisch" player mOOnGLaDe smashed everyone but Moon and Ace including a 2-0 stomping (If stomping can even describe how bad the rape was) of the man you mention Fenix and since then what has MajOr done that even compares with Fenix little own GLaDe???? GLaDe at the time won a combined Chinese/Sea qualifier which included stars like xiaOt, XiGua, SEn, Loner and came out on top in dominating fashion then continued to smash IEM. Which i expect him to do again, good day sir
On July 17 2011 21:43 Zeroxk wrote: Lol White-Ra got 4 byes?
We are seeding the most successfull players according to last season of Intel Extreme Masters, but also factoring in other major tournaments like MLG and Dreamhack and our Go4SC2 cup series. The top 10 seeding looks like this for this qualifier:
The top seeds get byes into later rounds or at least a ticket into the Bo3-rounds.
As far as I know both Ret and DarK.FoRcE decided to stay a little longer in the US after NASL finals last weekend. Let's hope we'll see them at future IEM events.
If you have lost the shields of all your units you shouldn't attack. If TLO hadn't dropped two full medvacs at the same time he would have crushed that army (he did anyway with what was left)
We will shift the number of slots for each country between events. So a Global Challenge in Europe will have a lot of slots for Europeans while a Global Challenge in Asia will have way more slots for Asians and en event in America will have a lot more slots for Americans.
On July 17 2011 22:24 TeWy wrote: I find it so unfair that you only give 1 slot to China when the competition there is definitely at a higher level than Europe (far more players).
If a Global Challenge takes place in Europe, 50% of the slots go to Europe. If it's taking place in America, we give 50% slots to South and North American players. If the event is in Asia, we give 50% slots to Asians.
In each case it's min. 50%, it could be more. We determine it on a case-to-case basis.
Since Socke is qualified as national champion, will there be anything similar for other GCs? USA, China etc. don't have EPS so will there be something like Go4sc2 rank point invites?
Ahah, epic moment in the first game inuh vs Stephano on Metalopolis!
inuh puts a nice pressure on Stephano, and at the same time builds a 3rd CC in his main that he turns... into a useless PF sitting in the middle of his main.
On July 17 2011 23:00 Denar wrote: Ahah, epic moment in the first game inuh vs Stephano on Metalopolis!
inuh puts a nice pressure on Stephano, and at the same time builds a 3rd CC in his main that he turns... into a useless PF sitting in the middle of his main.
On July 17 2011 23:00 Denar wrote: Ahah, epic moment in the first game inuh vs Stephano on Metalopolis!
inuh puts a nice pressure on Stephano, and at the same time builds a 3rd CC in his main that he turns... into a useless PF sitting in the middle of his main.
Haypro 1-1 vs. eE-Byakuya Edit: Strong 3 gate or 4 gate pressure while expanding did the damage, and timing push finished Haypro off while he almost had his spire up.. Edit 2: Apparently Haypro was 1-0 up already, so it's 1-1 now, not 0-1
On July 17 2011 23:03 Ketch wrote: Haypro 1-1 vs. eE-Byakuya Edit: Strong 3 gate or 4 gate pressure while expanding did the damage, and timing push finished Haypro off while he almost had his spire up..
Game 3: Tal'Darim, Haypro going for 6 pool, reasonable fast scout by eE-Byakuya
On July 17 2011 23:03 Ketch wrote: Haypro 1-1 vs. eE-Byakuya Edit: Strong 3 gate or 4 gate pressure while expanding did the damage, and timing push finished Haypro off while he almost had his spire up..
Game 3: Tal'Darim, Haypro going for 6 pool, reasonable fast scout by eE-Byakuya
Edit: My bad, missed the first game
Games 3 - Haypro vs. eE-Byakuya Haypro 6-pool did not do much damage, he deflected the first fast attack by eE-Byakuya, so I am guessing he is still a little bit behind. Hard to call however from first person perspective .
I think he just said that because Grubby was making 4 colossus at once, but since Grubby was already in a strong position in the game I don't think that's too hard.
Edit: Sorry I should mention from what I have seen that I think he has improved his macro though.
On July 17 2011 23:03 Ketch wrote: Haypro 1-1 vs. eE-Byakuya Edit: Strong 3 gate or 4 gate pressure while expanding did the damage, and timing push finished Haypro off while he almost had his spire up..
Game 3: Tal'Darim, Haypro going for 6 pool, reasonable fast scout by eE-Byakuya
Edit: My bad, missed the first game
Games 3 - Haypro vs. eE-Byakuya Haypro 6-pool did not do much damage, he deflected the first fast attack by eE-Byakuya, so I am guessing he is still a little bit behind. Hard to call however from first person perspective .
Haypro takes the game defending a big Colossus-Gateway-Phenix push with infestor ling/bling/hydra
On July 17 2011 23:35 Welmu wrote: gonna hate zerg 2basing mass muta with 12 spine crawlers all game long and 7 cannons base not enough to defend mutas... need to find way win that >.<
The question should be more how to win a PvT Welmu ^.^ zergs should die for going muta tech dno muta issues was like solved months ago sir.
On July 17 2011 23:35 Welmu wrote: gonna hate zerg 2basing mass muta with 12 spine crawlers all game long and 7 cannons base not enough to defend mutas... need to find way win that >.<
The question should be more how to win a PvT Welmu ^.^ zergs should die for going muta tech dno muta issues was like solved months ago sir.
there is none. sometimes i think i rly did everything right, even blindly going 2 stargate phenix or 6 gate blinkstalker, but no chance -,- 1029313 spinecrawlers, no way to attack it, you always lose some eco, cant go further then 2, if youre lucky 3 base, but he will be at 6 base.... then add infestor banelingbomb kekeke. dont get ppl who play roach hydra still
On July 18 2011 00:07 Carmac wrote: MorroW's quite impressive right now.
He's always impressive :p (especially against protoss as his crafted his build himself so protoss can't really train for his style, well, at least it was the case at first, now his style is well known so it's not as true)
On July 18 2011 00:07 Carmac wrote: MorroW's quite impressive right now.
He's always impressive :p (especially against protoss as his crafted his build himself so protoss can't really train for his style, well, at least it was the case at first, now his style is well known so it's not as true)
i wouldnt say his always impressive but his zvp is ahead of the curve atm, his zvt is good but not super good and his zvz is plain bad
On July 18 2011 00:24 Leviance wrote: Damn I gotta go very soon, there won't be VODs of this right?
of course there are VODs. That's why I love watching IEM. If you go to the bracket page, you can click the 'vs' text in between the match you want to see. There's usually matches posted there.
EDIT: It won't be for every match, since some of the people just plain don't upload the replays onto the ESL bracket page, but the major ones should be there.
for the actual IEM tournament though, there will always be free VODs.
On July 18 2011 00:24 Leviance wrote: Damn I gotta go very soon, there won't be VODs of this right?
of course there are VODs. That's why I love watching IEM. If you go to the bracket page, you can click the 'vs' text in between the match you want to see. There's usually matches posted there.
EDIT: It won't be for every match, since some of the people just plain don't upload the replays onto the ESL bracket page, but the major ones should be there.
for the actual IEM tournament though, there will always be free VODs.
I know about the replays, I was asking about VODs of this qualifier event we are watching right now. I don't think they are saved anywhere, are they?
We treat Jinro and HuK as Koreans (based on place of residence), fyi. Don't know if it changes your wish list or not o_O
Well they still have families in their own countries so their permanent place of residence are their own countries :D So would be fun to see some good koreans :>
HuK is defently one of them, i dont think it would be fair to invite Jinro after his recent results... he wouldnt get a spot in the EU qualifiers as well i guess :/
I highly doubt MC will be invited as he said in a recent interview that he felt he had fallen behind and as a result he would be training more in Korea and not going to foreign tournaments for a couple of months but that he hopes to return soon. Whether he sticks to his word we will see.
On July 18 2011 00:48 Mr.Brightside wrote: I highly doubt MC will be invited as he said in a recent interview that he felt he had fallen behind and as a result he would be training more in Korea and not going to foreign tournaments for a couple of months but that he hopes to return soon. Whether he sticks to his word we will see.
Obviously MC has a hyperbolic time chamber. It's already been a year of training for him.
On July 18 2011 00:51 Daray wrote: Who is this biGs? taking out xlord and bratok so he must be really good
I saw him play in some of the weekly cups. He has quite good control i thought and certainly is a strong zerg. From his muta control i suspect that he played BW before, but i don't know for sure. Btw go beasty :D
@Carmac: It will depend on GSL shedule for the invited players. Some of the obvious choices might not be able to come to Germany for the finals. Apart from that I would prefer this lineup: NesTea, HuK, MC and PuMa. Follow ups would be MKP, MVP or July.
On July 18 2011 01:00 dangerjoe wrote: haha how can morrow win when he lost like 80+ workers? :D
Beastyqt had great control, but poor macro/timing. Waiting until after Morrow was on 5-base + broodlords + neural before making his push. When you do that much damage with hellions, you do a timing push right away, since Z is making pure drones at that time to replenish econ
On July 18 2011 01:00 dangerjoe wrote: haha how can morrow win when he lost like 80+ workers? :D
Beastyqt had great control, but poor macro/timing. Waiting until after Morrow was on 5-base + broodlords + neural before making his push. When you do that much damage with hellions, you do a timing push right away, since Z is making pure drones at that time to replenish econ
half of his army composition was useless hellions which died in 1 fungal, he played like a robot, didnt scout broodlords (he had vikings idling somewhere)
Amazing that Morrow won. But I think he only won because beastyqt's macro slipped because of all the hellion micro. He was pretty much always behind in supply the entire game despite killing drone after drone.
On July 18 2011 01:11 Yaotzin wrote: Terrans are so clueless against Hive tech Zerg, it's sad. No originality at all, they just do the tried and tested methods of failing hard.
just bullshit, its hard to find the right timing to build viking/ghost. goody is goody, he will never add ghosts.
wow, i didnt expect TaKe to missjudge the situation so hard oO
GoOdy was ahead since Stephano built ultra only, it was aboslutly obvious goody would win... dno why, but take knew more about the game some months ago oO
On July 18 2011 01:26 DiaBoLuS wrote: wow, i didnt expect TaKe to missjudge the situation so hard oO
GoOdy was ahead since Stephano built ultra only, it was aboslutly obvious goody would win... dno why, but take knew more about the game some months ago oO
On July 18 2011 01:29 mandigal wrote: Sjow absolutely demolishing TLO, a single sensor tower would have helped so much against that doom drop
Stealing an add-on should be a victory condition. But yeah, TLO's rust is clearly showing plus sjow played well.
The best part about it, is that after SjoW killed off the Barracks, he wasn't paying attention to his units, and the Banshee and Marines killed off that Tech lab. He could of retaken it!
On July 18 2011 01:40 Yaotzin wrote: What happened in goody v stephano g3? My screen went fight about to occur -> take talking :<
GoOdy pushing out with 3 Thors, 1 Panzer and ~7 Hellions and SCV´s. Nerchio mindcontrols all the Thors, forces GoOdy to instant GG as all his units getting killed by his own Thors.
On July 18 2011 01:53 RogerChillingworth wrote: I die a little inside every time a zerg spends 400 gas to kill a barracks.
He did damage to two barracks at the same time with the banelings, so it wasn't quite 400 gas per barracks...
And it is a production facility (and delayed stim).
It's a huge investment for zerg. Supposed to be a killing move, or at least all marines + some scvs. Was a very unsuccessful bust, dimaga bang-head-against-wall style ;\
On July 18 2011 01:53 RogerChillingworth wrote: I die a little inside every time a zerg spends 400 gas to kill a barracks.
He did damage to two barracks at the same time with the banelings, so it wasn't quite 400 gas per barracks...
And it is a production facility (and delayed stim).
It's a huge investment for zerg. Supposed to be a killing move, or at least all marines + some scvs. Was a very unsuccessful bust, dimaga bang-head-against-wall style ;\
It was a good decision, he just executed it wrong. Needed to wait ~20s more for a few more banelings to cleanup and make it really cost effective. He also needed to be more decisive, droning behind the bust would've left him in a much better position but he went for a ton of defensive lings instead.
Edit: He also denied stim, meaning the terran can't be aggressive against banelings. Pretty big deal. If he'd followed up a little better, even with the slightly botched attack, he could've been close to even.
Forte is just some 4 gate junkie nothing worth to mention. Getting 2 players that are bad in PvP is his luck for him. And Dimaga realy plays to extreme in PvZ not realy solid most of the times he double expands for no reason or keeps attacking- allining etc .
I dont know why stephano is not killing the cloacked ghosts by detonating banelings near them. He could do it several times and instead he was struggling with finding seer/spore.
On July 18 2011 02:37 Murdock wrote: I dont know why stephano is not killing the cloacked ghosts by detonating banelings near them. He could do it several times and instead he was struggling with finding seer/spore.
He had like no gas. At that stage of the game very gas unit means a lot.
On July 18 2011 02:18 Serashin wrote: Forte is just some 4 gate junkie nothing worth to mention. Getting 2 players that are bad in PvP is his luck for him. And Dimaga realy plays to extreme in PvZ not realy solid most of the times he double expands for no reason or keeps attacking- allining etc .
well dimaga played good overall but he wanted to get ultras quite fast which happened exatcly at the moment when forte attacked with blink stalker sentry, i would say forte didnt play impressive rather bad timing for ultras saved him
On July 18 2011 02:49 Carmac wrote: Three out of the players in the top 4 are going to Cologne. Which one of you expected it?
I did : ).
By the way Forte way to the semi-final is as legit as it can be, he won many long macro games with top players and i don't understand argument that Mana or WhiteRa's pvp is bad because in fact it's not.
Ohhhhhh nooooooooo :p. I don't know why in my mind it was an american , but there is no reason for it ^^. Hum european casters... Dappolo , TB ( don't think so) , khaldor .. don't see who else it could be (maybe a player?)
No other country outside of Korea comes close to Sweden who don't just have the big names listed above but a lot of depth beyond that with Jimpo, Bischu and many others.
No other country outside of Korea comes close to Sweden who don't just have the big names listed above but a lot of depth beyond that with Jimpo, Bischu and many others.
No other country outside of Korea comes close to Sweden who don't just have the big names listed above but a lot of depth beyond that with Jimpo, Bischu and many others.
On July 18 2011 21:34 ineq wrote: Love that Nerchio made it, probably the only non-korean zerg that can compete with IdrA in terms of skill! :D
Thats funny...didn't mOOnGLaDe make it further than IdrA last IEM?? :O
At gamescom IdrA came in second and mOOnGLaDe didn't play, but in the world championships mOOnGLaDe did place higher (although one could argue, it was merely a matter of running into a Korean earlier). Regardless, mOOnGLaDe's performance was the best of any foreigner at the world championships IMO.
How long does it normally take until they publish time schedules for the brackets? I mean, in weeks before the tournament starts.. how many weeks?
Since I guess they'll just publish the brackets as soon as the Korean invitees are decided, I wonder... when will this be? Maybe someone can do a profound speculation.
On July 17 2011 23:35 Welmu wrote: gonna hate zerg 2basing mass muta with 12 spine crawlers all game long and 7 cannons base not enough to defend mutas... need to find way win that >.<
The question should be more how to win a PvT Welmu ^.^ zergs should die for going muta tech dno muta issues was like solved months ago sir.
okay i reverse with this my statement i just met a zerg wich had double spine count as usual muta going zergs aka 7 as you said .
There is no way to break it, and once you spot it its basicly " to late" mutas hitting 30 sec - 1 min after that arround 6-7 mutas first volley and used in very aggressive manner like i have never seen it before it seems unreasonable that not more zergs are playing like that its extremly strong and will problably take me some time to figure how to approach it .
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