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PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5301
Naniwa wreck some!
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5302
On June 27 2011 01:51 Lupita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:49 LeFroMaGe wrote:
TL won't like that comment... Naniwa was humble earlier lol


Naniwa actually said that if he went to Korea that he would be better than Huk. Not sure what's so humble about that.

No he didn't. He said he didn't want to comment about how much he would improve in Korea because it would all be speculation.
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5303
On June 27 2011 01:51 JohnMatrix wrote:
damn the gap between korean and foreigner is thiner than ever.


And u base that off PvPs...ok
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5304
On June 27 2011 01:51 Scythe90 wrote:
MC & Huk agree that was the real final... after naniwa has beaten both of them lol


I took it as two friends agreeing with each other to win in the other's place.
Ashworth
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5305
On June 27 2011 01:52 Eulert wrote:
Come on people.. HuK just trolling

That waasn't trolling, that was Huk being a complete dick.

Naniwa is a better player anyway, he will win.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5306
On June 27 2011 01:52 StyLeD wrote:
FINALS: Naniwa up 0-1 to start b/c he won vs HuK already, bo7


Because he's in the winner bracket, not because he won vs huk.
ABPID
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands293 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5307
On June 27 2011 01:51 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:48 YoungNeil wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:45 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:44 Minaegi wrote:
Never seen MC micro so poorly


It was nothing to do with micro. It was a build order loss, no player demonstrated any actual skill. Blink stalkers >>>>> defensive 4 gate no matter which professional player is playing.

That's not a build order loss, because "defensive 4 gate" isn't a build. "4 gate" is a build, and MC decided to be defensive with it. Had he managed to keep his probe alive and attack, he would have been the one with an advantage.


Do you even actually own this game? On Crevasse most people 4 gate, if he goes offensive 4 gate and you defend you win, if he goes offensive 4 gate and you blink then he wins, if goes he defensive 4 gate and you blink you win.

There is no skill here at all, you blindly guess what he's going to do and win or lose by it. The only time PvP involves any actual micro/skill in when you beat a build order loss (Mc vs Nani game 3, Huk vs Nani twice) or when you both get two mining bases.

These games were nothing but coinflips.

Micro, coinflips, what's the difference?
Note: may contain traces of sarcasm
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5308
On June 27 2011 01:52 Phayt wrote:
People are really going out of their way to misinterpret what HuK said

He wasn't saying the game against Nani isn't going to matter or anything, he's just saying that him and MC agreed beforehand that whoever won between the two of them could beat Naniwa. It's certainly a confident statement, but he's not BMing Nani or anything.

This.

Now stop whining when a player gets a little cocky.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5309
Im not saying it was bc of jetlag/mc sickness or whatever.... I'm really glad that Naniwa and Huk are representing, but when MC is back in korea and recovers he's going to show them what he's capable of. It's still Pvp and and if u have a bad day it matters even more i think.

Next Mc Naniwa engagement could happen in the gstl right? and Huk knows MC pretty well and we could clearly see that MC didnt show his GOD Micro these games.

But still: Huk improved so much and Im fairly confident for his code s groupstage matches and Of course we all hope that nani rushes to code s asap.

Now let's enjoy a great final of the most epic tournament of '11
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5310
On June 27 2011 01:52 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:50 Ashworth wrote:
Is HuK fucking joking?

Real final?

Naniwa beat both huk and MC. That is pathetic to take away his achievement, hope huk gets crushed.

Well it all depends on what happens next.
If Huk gets beaten he's going to look really stupid; if he wins easily then maybe he was right.


suicide toss?
SC2, rip in pepperinos
JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia820 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5311
On June 27 2011 01:52 Phayt wrote:
People are really going out of their way to misinterpret what HuK said

He wasn't saying the game against Nani isn't going to matter or anything, he's just saying that him and MC agreed beforehand that whoever won between the two of them could beat Naniwa. It's certainly a confident statement, but he's not BMing Nani or anything.


this
.lets get weird
Binabik
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany686 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5312
Peter Fox!
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5313
I don't think MC will cast, atleast that would be surprising to me after losing like that, especially to a foreigner. (he practices in korea, iknowknow)
ForTheDr3am
Profile Joined November 2010
842 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5314
On June 27 2011 01:51 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 01:48 YoungNeil wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:45 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 27 2011 01:44 Minaegi wrote:
Never seen MC micro so poorly


It was nothing to do with micro. It was a build order loss, no player demonstrated any actual skill. Blink stalkers >>>>> defensive 4 gate no matter which professional player is playing.

That's not a build order loss, because "defensive 4 gate" isn't a build. "4 gate" is a build, and MC decided to be defensive with it. Had he managed to keep his probe alive and attack, he would have been the one with an advantage.


There's a massive difference between a defensive and offensive 4gate...it's not remotely a case of whether you decide to be defensive or go and attack with your units. Jesus.

---

Hopefully Huk vs Naniwa gives some half decent games, too much PvP at the end of this tournament though



The actual difference was that it was a 2gas 4gate with Sentries, which is good against slightly delayed 4gates, but sucks against everything else. MC is a great player, but I have to say that his builds are really shitty. Just like his 1Gate 2Gas FE in PvT that dies vs every random Terran aggression.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5315
On June 27 2011 01:48 ELA wrote:
I really hope that HuK wins this now, just so all the haters can shut up!!

Fucking DreamHuK! So good, so manner.. You can tell in this interview, that he is really happy but trying to hide it in respect of MC.. Go HuK!

Talking bad about other players is mannered now?

Only thing I could tell from that iview is that he was exhausted after 2 intense series of pvp.
leakingpear
Profile Joined March 2006
United Kingdom302 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5316
Yo what's with SC2 tournaments and doing double elimination so dumb? If it isn't extended series being entirely arbitrary and not necessarily taking place, it's being down one game in a best of 7 instead of just doing a normal double elim best of 3 and if the loser's bracket winner wins, reset the bracket and do another best of 3. Or best of 5, there isn't enough of a reward for winning all your games, given that if it was single elim you would've already won the whole thing. I haven't seen a valid argument for this sort of random tournament structure that makes any sense, you'll still get the best players getting a second chance, but without making it seem like winning the winner's bracket (as opposed to losers) is barely relevant.
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5317
name of the reggae track that just played? was really cool. (that one before seeed)
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
June 26 2011 16:53 GMT
#5318
lol, Nani checking out the trophy he's after.
Love is more fun than hate.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
June 26 2011 16:54 GMT
#5319
Peter Fox )
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
TelesisGQ
Profile Joined March 2009
United States83 Posts
June 26 2011 16:54 GMT
#5320
Oh snap, Adolf rapping, werdup!
Cogito Ergo Sum
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