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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
June 25 2011 22:02 GMT
#8901
On June 26 2011 06:55 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 06:53 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Lol, just came here and all I read is whining, complaints etc. Why can't you just enjoy the damn event. -_-

What happened to TL.net? There was much more enjoyment on these forums in the BroodWar days.


in BW the forums could safely agree that Idra was a bad joke

Now TL has a ridiculous amount of Idra fanboys


rekrul is just a hater. he should have supported the only english-speaking player in korea so that all of us english-speaking fans at home would have a hero to root for, because koreans have no personality. it was really inappropriate of him to make a thread singling out idra for all the dumb shit he said.
toadyy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom179 Posts
June 25 2011 22:02 GMT
#8902
Anyone know when there / if there will be VoDs?
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 25 2011 22:03 GMT
#8903
On June 26 2011 07:02 Rasky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 07:00 DiaBoLuS wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:58 Rasky wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:48 Paladia wrote:
It's interesting how the only ones defending Idra are Americans. Must be because only the americans are objective in regards to Idra..



Yep isn't kind of sad it's mostly due to the fact that there aren't any good US players little at that and fanboys just try to protect him.


There is HuK. He is American and Canadian.

€: Dont get the reason for the whines... the bming? IdrA didnt get bmed at all imo.


HuK is Korean.


You're just begging for an argument. Clearly there is at least some logic behind him calling HuK American and Canadian. Why bother trying to get an argument going over that? Just let it go.
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
June 25 2011 22:03 GMT
#8904
On June 26 2011 07:02 Rasky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 07:00 DiaBoLuS wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:58 Rasky wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:48 Paladia wrote:
It's interesting how the only ones defending Idra are Americans. Must be because only the americans are objective in regards to Idra..



Yep isn't kind of sad it's mostly due to the fact that there aren't any good US players little at that and fanboys just try to protect him.


There is HuK. He is American and Canadian.

€: Dont get the reason for the whines... the bming? IdrA didnt get bmed at all imo.


HuK is Korean.


ye, just as ret was korean for 2 months. cool how fast ppl can change their nationality.
let the messed up discussion start again...
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 25 2011 22:03 GMT
#8905
:-)

I thought that this HSC is great, but it seems the past few were even more badass.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
June 25 2011 22:03 GMT
#8906
On June 26 2011 06:56 ProxyKnoxy wrote:


Why do people think IdrA is overrated btw?


Cuz he doesn't win.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
June 25 2011 22:03 GMT
#8907
On June 26 2011 06:41 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 06:36 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:33 rauk wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:23 Kraznaya wrote:
I don't know why people keep harping on Idra's mentality so much. The truth about Idra is that he's just vastly overrated - at least in comparison to the size of his fanbase - and he tends to lose in the most spectacular ways. People saying his "mentality" is the only weakness to his playing style are vastly overestimating an overhyped Brood War B teamer who never saw the light of day.


idra wasn't over hyped in broodwar. he trained so hard on the CJ b-team, lost to trap 1-2 in a very standard macro TvP in the GOMTV classic 2 in the first round, and basically dominated every single amateur foreigner event after he'd been training professionally for three years in korea. minus his fluke loss to nony in TSL3, is there a single amateur event that idra participated in he didn't dominate? plus his liquibition loss to f91 doesn't count because it was laggy and f91 is a pro in china anyways.


loss to f91 -> fluke
loss to nony -> fluke
can beat unpaid foreigner amateurs after training professionally for three years in korea -> pro

never change :D


that's unfair. idra couldn't find the time to learn korean because he was training full-time, so he couldn't really take advantage of being in a pro environment by interacting with his team mates and coaches. also he was probably unfairly discriminated against in estro; the estro players badmouthed him in an interview saying that nony was more friendly and more easy to get along with. idra is just a victim of his circumstances, your post history is basically a long list of clueless idra bashing.


Did you ever think maybe Nony really was "more friendly and more easy to get along with" than IdrA, who was known for his BM and lonewolf attitude? If you aren't nice to me, I'm probably not gonna be nice to you. That's not "unfair discrimination".
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
June 25 2011 22:03 GMT
#8908
On June 26 2011 07:02 toadyy wrote:
Anyone know when there / if there will be VoDs?

http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod on Monday
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
June 25 2011 22:04 GMT
#8909
On June 26 2011 07:03 JustPassingBy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmAj7RJCXN4 :-)

I thought that this HSC is great, but it seems the past few were even more badass.



it wasnt a HSC, it was the nationwar Sweden vs Germany.
And the HSC3 is much better than this event was. I can watch stuff like that somewhere else.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
June 25 2011 22:05 GMT
#8910
On June 26 2011 07:03 JustPassingBy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmAj7RJCXN4 :-)

I thought that this HSC is great, but it seems the past few were even more badass.

That was not from a HSC, that was from the Sweden vs Germany thingy.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
June 25 2011 22:06 GMT
#8911
On June 26 2011 07:03 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 06:41 rauk wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:36 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:33 rauk wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:23 Kraznaya wrote:
I don't know why people keep harping on Idra's mentality so much. The truth about Idra is that he's just vastly overrated - at least in comparison to the size of his fanbase - and he tends to lose in the most spectacular ways. People saying his "mentality" is the only weakness to his playing style are vastly overestimating an overhyped Brood War B teamer who never saw the light of day.


idra wasn't over hyped in broodwar. he trained so hard on the CJ b-team, lost to trap 1-2 in a very standard macro TvP in the GOMTV classic 2 in the first round, and basically dominated every single amateur foreigner event after he'd been training professionally for three years in korea. minus his fluke loss to nony in TSL3, is there a single amateur event that idra participated in he didn't dominate? plus his liquibition loss to f91 doesn't count because it was laggy and f91 is a pro in china anyways.


loss to f91 -> fluke
loss to nony -> fluke
can beat unpaid foreigner amateurs after training professionally for three years in korea -> pro

never change :D


that's unfair. idra couldn't find the time to learn korean because he was training full-time, so he couldn't really take advantage of being in a pro environment by interacting with his team mates and coaches. also he was probably unfairly discriminated against in estro; the estro players badmouthed him in an interview saying that nony was more friendly and more easy to get along with. idra is just a victim of his circumstances, your post history is basically a long list of clueless idra bashing.


Did you ever think maybe Nony really was "more friendly and more easy to get along with" than IdrA, who was known for his BM and lonewolf attitude? If you aren't nice to me, I'm probably not gonna be nice to you. That's not "unfair discrimination".

Ret also struggled immensely to fit into the estro house. If I recall correctly, he was forced out due to a misconception at one point (they thought he was leaking replays). Perhaps Nony just has the friendly personality that endeared himself to his teammates whereas both Idra and Ret struggled.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 25 2011 22:08 GMT
#8912
On June 26 2011 07:02 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 06:55 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:53 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Lol, just came here and all I read is whining, complaints etc. Why can't you just enjoy the damn event. -_-

What happened to TL.net? There was much more enjoyment on these forums in the BroodWar days.


in BW the forums could safely agree that Idra was a bad joke

Now TL has a ridiculous amount of Idra fanboys


rekrul is just a hater. he should have supported the only english-speaking player in korea so that all of us english-speaking fans at home would have a hero to root for, because koreans have no personality. it was really inappropriate of him to make a thread singling out idra for all the dumb shit he said.


So he should have supported him simply because he was an English speaking player? I'm sorry but I couldn't disagree more, if his personality was that of a total douche, I wouldn't expect anyone to support him just because he had personality and spoke English.

Yeah, it was really inappropriate of him to single out IdrA for all the dumb shit he said, but it's okay that IdrA said dumb shit, I mean, because he was the only English speaking player in Korea right? He should have gotten a free pass. I can't tell if you're trolling.

Let's not derail this thread with more IdrA nonsense.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
June 25 2011 22:08 GMT
#8913
On June 26 2011 07:03 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 06:56 ProxyKnoxy wrote:


Why do people think IdrA is overrated btw?


Cuz he doesn't win.


Yet he's the best in NA and arguably the best foreign Zerg? Won IPL, highest placing for foreigners in MLG. Got matched up against MC again in Dreamhack which was pretty unlucky...

Seriously your dumb if you think IdrA is overrated. I'm not a fanboy but thats just dumb.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 25 2011 22:08 GMT
#8914
Can someone tell me what the fuck happened around here? I leave, MC 1, Naniwa 1, and now all hell has broken loose. Naniwa beat MC correct? Well that's fucking fantastic, why aren't people talking about this? And Idra lost to a strong Terran? Why is this such a fucking big deal?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 25 2011 22:09 GMT
#8915
On June 26 2011 07:05 Darneck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 07:03 JustPassingBy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmAj7RJCXN4 :-)

I thought that this HSC is great, but it seems the past few were even more badass.

That was not from a HSC, that was from the Sweden vs Germany thingy.


Oh really? Nvm, then. I thought it was from HSC2 because several people in the stream claimed it.
Anyways, let's hope for a hsc in grubby's home with loser cleaning whitera bbq. :-)
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
June 25 2011 22:11 GMT
#8916
Fuuuuuuuuck I need VODs, will there be VODs? I can't believe I lost MC losing to Naniwa and Thorzain and Idra losing to Tarson. AND I MISSED IDRA V HUK FML
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 22:11:59
June 25 2011 22:11 GMT
#8917
On June 26 2011 07:08 MCDayC wrote:
Can someone tell me what the fuck happened around here? I leave, MC 1, Naniwa 1, and now all hell has broken loose. Naniwa beat MC correct? Well that's fucking fantastic, why aren't people talking about this? And Idra lost to a strong Terran? Why is this such a fucking big deal?

It's not. People just forgot that Naniwa won, because they were too busy whining about IdrA's loss

On June 26 2011 07:11 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuck I need VODs, will there be VODs? I can't believe I lost MC losing to Naniwa and Thorzain and Idra losing to Tarson. AND I MISSED IDRA V HUK FML

Scroll up half a page to my post
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
June 25 2011 22:11 GMT
#8918
On June 26 2011 07:03 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 06:41 rauk wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:36 Kraznaya wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:33 rauk wrote:
On June 26 2011 06:23 Kraznaya wrote:
I don't know why people keep harping on Idra's mentality so much. The truth about Idra is that he's just vastly overrated - at least in comparison to the size of his fanbase - and he tends to lose in the most spectacular ways. People saying his "mentality" is the only weakness to his playing style are vastly overestimating an overhyped Brood War B teamer who never saw the light of day.


idra wasn't over hyped in broodwar. he trained so hard on the CJ b-team, lost to trap 1-2 in a very standard macro TvP in the GOMTV classic 2 in the first round, and basically dominated every single amateur foreigner event after he'd been training professionally for three years in korea. minus his fluke loss to nony in TSL3, is there a single amateur event that idra participated in he didn't dominate? plus his liquibition loss to f91 doesn't count because it was laggy and f91 is a pro in china anyways.


loss to f91 -> fluke
loss to nony -> fluke
can beat unpaid foreigner amateurs after training professionally for three years in korea -> pro

never change :D


that's unfair. idra couldn't find the time to learn korean because he was training full-time, so he couldn't really take advantage of being in a pro environment by interacting with his team mates and coaches. also he was probably unfairly discriminated against in estro; the estro players badmouthed him in an interview saying that nony was more friendly and more easy to get along with. idra is just a victim of his circumstances, your post history is basically a long list of clueless idra bashing.


Did you ever think maybe Nony really was "more friendly and more easy to get along with" than IdrA, who was known for his BM and lonewolf attitude? If you aren't nice to me, I'm probably not gonna be nice to you. That's not "unfair discrimination".


well apparently bm and a terrible attitude gets you a longer way than being nice does, because idra is a far more successful player than nony is in sc2. action and all those other ex-estro players are stuck playing an old game like broodwar with no real future in sight, while idra is an international superstar and is always a favorite to win any event without MC or a korean in it.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 25 2011 22:12 GMT
#8919
On June 26 2011 07:08 MCDayC wrote:
Can someone tell me what the fuck happened around here? I leave, MC 1, Naniwa 1, and now all hell has broken loose. Naniwa beat MC correct? Well that's fucking fantastic, why aren't people talking about this? And Idra lost to a strong Terran? Why is this such a fucking big deal?


Because IdrA practiced 12 hours a day for years in Korea, "He shouldn't lose to these guys"...

OBVIOUSLY.

It's the usual nonsense.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 25 2011 22:12 GMT
#8920
On June 26 2011 07:04 DiaBoLuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 07:03 JustPassingBy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmAj7RJCXN4 :-)

I thought that this HSC is great, but it seems the past few were even more badass.



it wasnt a HSC, it was the nationwar Sweden vs Germany.
And the HSC3 is much better than this event was. I can watch stuff like that somewhere else.


ye HSC3 undoubtedly superior to everything before it
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