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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5081
On June 20 2011 22:47 dubRa wrote:
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On June 20 2011 22:45 clusen wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Jyvblamo wrote:
Moon has way more international tournament experience than almost any other Korean progamer.

Almost? No SC2-player except maybe Grubby comes even close to the number of tournaments Moon attended, hell I doubt any of them attended as many tournaments as Moon won.

You shouldn't underestimate the amount of tournaments WC3 had :p


Well there is a guy called Nada in sc2 you know

Nada has almost zero international tournament experience, apart from Blizzcons maybe.
BleuDeChanel
Profile Joined March 2011
Peru30 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5082
The Bo5 will be hard for Huk. I'm not sure that he wins. But if he wins that will be the start of a new era.

History will be made today.
rip in piece
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5083
On June 20 2011 22:46 TheHova wrote:
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On June 20 2011 22:46 Sebzou wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:43 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Fyzar wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 Dalnor wrote:
If Moon did win? Maybe they'd give him TSL Rains up and down match spot?


Not in a million years, a dreamhack win does not mean you get a free entry to code S -__-.

Why not, Ace got a spot because of his IEM win when IdrA left, I would love it so much if they would do that. Moon is Code S level, or at least Code A, and that way he doesn't have to go through the grueling qualifiers.


Moon couldn't even stay in Code A. So it's pretty hard to say he's code S level. If he wants the spot, he's going to have to earn it by playing through Code A like the rest of Koreans i imagine. And that's like saying why shouldn't it go to MMA because he won MLG? Or DRG because he won the special tourny?


Staying in code A is hard though,, if you face a good player early and lose, you have to go through the very punishing qualifier again.


Where's Code S is easy? lol.


um,, okay... i guess, whatever you say champ.
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5084
On June 20 2011 22:46 Sebzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:43 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Fyzar wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 Dalnor wrote:
If Moon did win? Maybe they'd give him TSL Rains up and down match spot?


Not in a million years, a dreamhack win does not mean you get a free entry to code S -__-.

Why not, Ace got a spot because of his IEM win when IdrA left, I would love it so much if they would do that. Moon is Code S level, or at least Code A, and that way he doesn't have to go through the grueling qualifiers.


Moon couldn't even stay in Code A. So it's pretty hard to say he's code S level. If he wants the spot, he's going to have to earn it by playing through Code A like the rest of Koreans i imagine. And that's like saying why shouldn't it go to MMA because he won MLG? Or DRG because he won the special tourny?


Staying in code A is hard though,, if you face a good player early and lose, you have to go through the very punishing qualifier again.

I was just responding to the guy who said that a dreamhack win doesn't get you a Up&Down match, because IEM did when a player left. I agree that they should probably ask DRG first, but there is a possibility.
Also, he couldn't stay in code A like 2 seasons ago, which is 4 months (?), he has improved tremendously from there.
It appears I have been chosen.
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5085
On June 20 2011 22:46 TheHova wrote:
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On June 20 2011 22:45 Sneakyz wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 tdt wrote:
Moon destroyed Nani...how do you guys think Huk is auto win?

Maybe because Huk beat him 2-0 in pool-play


IdrA beat MC 2-0 in pool-play. How did that one go ?


Try to use your brain. You generalize a situation based upon a match (which was a very weird match cause of IdrA strange personnality). When you 2-0 a guy, you are the favorite if the game is one day after the 2-0 in general, so don't be silly (and I don't say it's an easy win for Huk)
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5086
On June 20 2011 22:40 DBrave wrote:
Finals BO5 or BO7 ??
I wish for BO7

I agree i was hoping the semis would be Bo5 though
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5087
Does the stream shows something right now ? I have a black screen so I don't know if it's normal as the stream died during the last game.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5088
On June 20 2011 22:47 dubRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:45 clusen wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Jyvblamo wrote:
Moon has way more international tournament experience than almost any other Korean progamer.

Almost? No SC2-player except maybe Grubby comes even close to the number of tournaments Moon attended, hell I doubt any of them attended as many tournaments as Moon won.

You shouldn't underestimate the amount of tournaments WC3 had :p


Well there is a guy called Nada in sc2 you know


Just look up Moons and grubbys records Nada played alot, but not that many.

Still he played more then Bomber, so arguing is pointless.

goooo huk!
KCCO!
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5089
On June 20 2011 22:45 Sneakyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:44 tdt wrote:
Moon destroyed Nani...how do you guys think Huk is auto win?

Maybe because Huk beat him 2-0 in pool-play

did u see the games?
they werent onesided at all lol
idra also beat mc in mlg group stage and then got slaughtered 4:0 later on
anything can happen :O
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
June 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#5090
On June 20 2011 22:47 dubRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:45 clusen wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Jyvblamo wrote:
Moon has way more international tournament experience than almost any other Korean progamer.

Almost? No SC2-player except maybe Grubby comes even close to the number of tournaments Moon attended, hell I doubt any of them attended as many tournaments as Moon won.

You shouldn't underestimate the amount of tournaments WC3 had :p


Well there is a guy called Nada in sc2 you know

Note he says international. I'm no BW expert but I don't think it'd be false to say it was somewhat concentrated in Korea...
robitii
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania15 Posts
June 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#5091
I have watched only like 60% of the games, and gotta say that this is by far the best tournament I have ever seen
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
June 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#5092
On June 20 2011 22:44 TheSubtleArt wrote:
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On June 20 2011 22:42 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Seriously, Moon completely outclassed Bomber on Game 3, brillant play.

When will be the finals?

Moon flipped a coin and it paid off in this case. Not to take too much away from moon, he still executed very well, but to say Bomber was outclassed is a little ridiculous.

C'mon, every move he did from the start conditioned Bomber to be in the exact position Moon wanted so that he could carry out that last drop.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#5093
On June 20 2011 22:44 ChickenLips wrote:
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On June 20 2011 22:42 najreteip wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:38 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 Murdock wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 Pochtli wrote:
I hope DH takes notes and improves in future events, by making semis and maybe quarters aswell bo5 and bronze match/grand final bo7. Nevertheless awesome games, can't wait for 3rd place match not to mention grand final. HuK fighting!

They have already improved As far as i remember last Dreamhack(winter) had BO1 in group stages. That was pretty hilarious.


Bo3 Semi-Finals is inexcusable imo

Can you think of another big tournament that has only BO3?


There you have 2 before you are completely wiped out, which kind of makes up for it.

But losing 2 games to dumb Zerg cheeses and then not being able to show off one of the best TvPs in the world is pretty disappointing (He took out fucking MC....)

Those 2 games he lost weren't cheese. He messed up his timing attacks big time. And he's facing Moon. Moon is like July and Kyrix had a love child and they put that lovechild on steroids and injected him with Catz's DNA. Bomber should have been prepared for really aggressive counter attacks. He wasn't and therefore he lost.

I agree that it should have been a Bo5 though.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
June 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#5094
On June 20 2011 22:48 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:47 dubRa wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:45 clusen wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Jyvblamo wrote:
Moon has way more international tournament experience than almost any other Korean progamer.

Almost? No SC2-player except maybe Grubby comes even close to the number of tournaments Moon attended, hell I doubt any of them attended as many tournaments as Moon won.

You shouldn't underestimate the amount of tournaments WC3 had :p


Well there is a guy called Nada in sc2 you know

Nada has almost zero international tournament experience, apart from Blizzcons maybe.


Oh sorry, I didn't read the international tournament part in the previous comment.
ken-
Profile Joined May 2011
63 Posts
June 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#5095
It's pathetic what people consider cheese. A 2 base roach drop is NOT considered cheese... neither is banshee play of any kind. There is plenty of time to SCOUT that and react accordingly.

6 pool is cheese... 4 barrack + scv all ins are cheese...

Too many Idra fanboys in this thread that think you aren't allowed to do any offensive aggression for 20 minutes until maxed armies.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
June 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#5096
On June 20 2011 22:46 Switchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:43 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Fyzar wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 Dalnor wrote:
If Moon did win? Maybe they'd give him TSL Rains up and down match spot?


Not in a million years, a dreamhack win does not mean you get a free entry to code S -__-.

Why not, Ace got a spot because of his IEM win when IdrA left, I would love it so much if they would do that. Moon is Code S level, or at least Code A, and that way he doesn't have to go through the grueling qualifiers.


Moon couldn't even stay in Code A. So it's pretty hard to say he's code S level. If he wants the spot, he's going to have to earn it by playing through Code A like the rest of Koreans i imagine. And that's like saying why shouldn't it go to MMA because he won MLG? Or DRG because he won the special tourny?


Moon is certainly looking MUCH better than he did then. Who's to say he wouldnt keep his code A spot this time or even get to code S. Just because a player has shown bad performances in the past doesnt mean they won't get better.

What i have seen are great games. But there are some people who only see 'bad players', 'mistakes' 'bad play'. Whats up with that...


I'm not hating on him as a player, i think he's improved a lot and who knows, maybe he can play in Code S and compete. In fact i like a lot of aspects in his play (not so much others but hey, every player has weaknesses) But i think he's got to earn it the same way that every other Code S player has. Not get given it on a plate because he won an event completely irrelevant to GSL that only 4 Koreans went to and very few got invited. Because it just opens pandora's box tbh and that's never a good thing.
zasda
Profile Joined March 2011
381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 13:51:00
June 20 2011 13:49 GMT
#5097
On June 20 2011 22:47 dubRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:45 clusen wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Jyvblamo wrote:
Moon has way more international tournament experience than almost any other Korean progamer.

Almost? No SC2-player except maybe Grubby comes even close to the number of tournaments Moon attended, hell I doubt any of them attended as many tournaments as Moon won.

You shouldn't underestimate the amount of tournaments WC3 had :p


Well there is a guy called Nada in sc2 you know

what international tournaments were there in bw besides WCG? (where koreans attended obviously=
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 20 2011 13:50 GMT
#5098
On June 20 2011 22:48 MrCon wrote:
Does the stream shows something right now ? I have a black screen so I don't know if it's normal as the stream died during the last game.

I have this overlay showing atm, saying July v Bomber will be @ 4.
Mayhbe try refreshing?
It appears I have been chosen.
woob
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1322 Posts
June 20 2011 13:50 GMT
#5099
HuK ftw! :D
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ez
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 20 2011 13:50 GMT
#5100
On June 20 2011 22:49 robitii wrote:
I have watched only like 60% of the games, and gotta say that this is by far the best tournament I have ever seen

Games were awesome, but MLG is far superior to me... great audience, more showing of the players and super awesome stories.
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