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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 20 2011 13:45 GMT
#5061
On June 20 2011 22:39 Jyvblamo wrote:
Moon has way more international tournament experience than almost any other Korean progamer.

Almost? No SC2-player except maybe Grubby comes even close to the number of tournaments Moon attended, hell I doubt any of them attended as many tournaments as Moon won.

You shouldn't underestimate the amount of tournaments WC3 had :p
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5062
On June 20 2011 22:44 Bandreus wrote:
I'm so glad DH doesn't use the extended series format!

Let's hope to see five astonishing games ^^ A great match for 3rd place coming up too. hope july takes it


Extended series?

Moon GGs

Thank god dream hack does not do it with all the Bo3s
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5063
On June 20 2011 22:44 tdt wrote:
Moon destroyed Nani...how do you guys think Huk is auto win?


I don't think it is autowin or easywin, but I think he is the favorite cause he 2-0 Moon in his group
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5064
Sad for Bomber but It think Huk has better chance vs Moon (but Moon still a beast so it'll be hard still)
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5065
On June 20 2011 22:43 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:39 Fyzar wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 Dalnor wrote:
If Moon did win? Maybe they'd give him TSL Rains up and down match spot?


Not in a million years, a dreamhack win does not mean you get a free entry to code S -__-.

Why not, Ace got a spot because of his IEM win when IdrA left, I would love it so much if they would do that. Moon is Code S level, or at least Code A, and that way he doesn't have to go through the grueling qualifiers.


Moon couldn't even stay in Code A. So it's pretty hard to say he's code S level. If he wants the spot, he's going to have to earn it by playing through Code A like the rest of Koreans i imagine. And that's like saying why shouldn't it go to MMA because he won MLG? Or DRG because he won the special tourny?


Staying in code A is hard though,, if you face a good player early and lose, you have to go through the very punishing qualifier again.
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5066
On June 20 2011 22:45 Sneakyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:44 tdt wrote:
Moon destroyed Nani...how do you guys think Huk is auto win?

Maybe because Huk beat him 2-0 in pool-play


IdrA beat MC 2-0 in pool-play. How did that one go ?
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5067
On June 20 2011 22:42 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:39 caruso wrote:
So funny how the Moon haters find excuses for his success again and again, just because he didn't play Broodwar. That's so pathetic...

Way to generalize. Care to point out some people in this thread who specifically don't like him because of his RTS background? You're just making blind assumptions it seems

I don't know where it was but I did get some responses that people just don't like him for coming from W3, and abusing ''cheese'' because he doesn't know how to play a macro game like the BW guys do. *Although guys like July are the cheesiest out there haha *
But maybe we should stop this discussion, Moon is a great player, and he will have to bring some results to make you guys believe that as well , and he knows that himself.0
It appears I have been chosen.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5068
On June 20 2011 22:44 tdt wrote:
Moon destroyed Nani...how do you guys think Huk is auto win?


Not autowin but Huk is favorite. Nani just doesn't have the experience playing against Korean players... with his innate talent though, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd start roflstomping korean players in a couple of months after his trip to Korea.
Switchy
Profile Joined June 2011
343 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5069
On June 20 2011 22:43 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:39 Fyzar wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 Dalnor wrote:
If Moon did win? Maybe they'd give him TSL Rains up and down match spot?


Not in a million years, a dreamhack win does not mean you get a free entry to code S -__-.

Why not, Ace got a spot because of his IEM win when IdrA left, I would love it so much if they would do that. Moon is Code S level, or at least Code A, and that way he doesn't have to go through the grueling qualifiers.


Moon couldn't even stay in Code A. So it's pretty hard to say he's code S level. If he wants the spot, he's going to have to earn it by playing through Code A like the rest of Koreans i imagine. And that's like saying why shouldn't it go to MMA because he won MLG? Or DRG because he won the special tourny?


Moon is certainly looking MUCH better than he did then. Who's to say he wouldnt keep his code A spot this time or even get to code S. Just because a player has shown bad performances in the past doesnt mean they won't get better.

What i have seen are great games. But there are some people who only see 'bad players', 'mistakes' 'bad play'. Whats up with that...
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 13:47:02
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5070
On June 20 2011 22:41 legaton wrote:
Oh no, for the love of god, please HuK, win the tournament. Anything but Moon; anything.


go moon
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5071
Yeah bo3 is bad. But it's still soooo much better than MLG's bullshit series system.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5072
On June 20 2011 22:46 Sebzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:43 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 Fyzar wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 TheHova wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:36 Dalnor wrote:
If Moon did win? Maybe they'd give him TSL Rains up and down match spot?


Not in a million years, a dreamhack win does not mean you get a free entry to code S -__-.

Why not, Ace got a spot because of his IEM win when IdrA left, I would love it so much if they would do that. Moon is Code S level, or at least Code A, and that way he doesn't have to go through the grueling qualifiers.


Moon couldn't even stay in Code A. So it's pretty hard to say he's code S level. If he wants the spot, he's going to have to earn it by playing through Code A like the rest of Koreans i imagine. And that's like saying why shouldn't it go to MMA because he won MLG? Or DRG because he won the special tourny?


Staying in code A is hard though,, if you face a good player early and lose, you have to go through the very punishing qualifier again.


Where's Code S is easy? lol.
Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5073
On June 20 2011 22:44 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:42 najreteip wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:38 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 Murdock wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 Pochtli wrote:
I hope DH takes notes and improves in future events, by making semis and maybe quarters aswell bo5 and bronze match/grand final bo7. Nevertheless awesome games, can't wait for 3rd place match not to mention grand final. HuK fighting!

They have already improved As far as i remember last Dreamhack(winter) had BO1 in group stages. That was pretty hilarious.


Bo3 Semi-Finals is inexcusable imo

Can you think of another big tournament that has only BO3?


There you have 2 before you are completely wiped out, which kind of makes up for it.

But losing 2 games to dumb Zerg cheeses and then not being able to show off one of the best TvPs in the world is pretty disappointing (He took out fucking MC....)


I would like you to point the dumb Zerg cheese moon executed.
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5074
Both Huk and Moon are great players and very deserving of a DH finals spot.
GO HUK! GO Moon! Make it a great final!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
June 20 2011 13:46 GMT
#5075
On June 20 2011 22:44 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:42 najreteip wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:38 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 Murdock wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:35 Pochtli wrote:
I hope DH takes notes and improves in future events, by making semis and maybe quarters aswell bo5 and bronze match/grand final bo7. Nevertheless awesome games, can't wait for 3rd place match not to mention grand final. HuK fighting!

They have already improved As far as i remember last Dreamhack(winter) had BO1 in group stages. That was pretty hilarious.


Bo3 Semi-Finals is inexcusable imo

Can you think of another big tournament that has only BO3?


There you have 2 before you are completely wiped out, which kind of makes up for it.

But losing 2 games to dumb Zerg cheeses and then not being able to show off one of the best TvPs in the world is pretty disappointing (He took out fucking MC....)

Please tell me what games were dumb Zerg cheeses. Moon just has different strategies as others and like July picks his opponent apart and finds the little holes to do damage. Just because your favorite loses doesn't mean you should take credit away from Moons performance.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
June 20 2011 13:47 GMT
#5076
On June 20 2011 22:46 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:45 Sneakyz wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:44 tdt wrote:
Moon destroyed Nani...how do you guys think Huk is auto win?

Maybe because Huk beat him 2-0 in pool-play

IdrA beat MC 2-0 in pool-play. How did that one go ?

Well, you can't convince us it counts against Huk. We all understand that results can change.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 20 2011 13:47 GMT
#5077
On June 20 2011 22:43 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:41 Caphe wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:39 caruso wrote:
So funny how the Moon haters find excuses for his success again and again, just because he didn't play Broodwar. That's so pathetic...

Actually he has no success in SC2, this will be his chance to grap the win for himself. But untill he archive something in GSL, he will forever be the underdog. Korea is where it counts since foreign tourney is just a walk in the park for any Koreans now.

He performs on par with all the ''top dog Koreans'' that everybody praises so much though.
I am extremely biased towards him, but with his brilliance of WC3 coming out in SC2, this guy is amazing. He is a true RTS-player in every way.

I don't see he performs on par with top Koreans. Where you get that fact from? I also played WC3 so don't pull the WC3 hate card on me.
The point is Moon still has alot to prove in SC2, you can't put him in the SC2 elite just because what he did in WC3. And this is the first step for him. After this, he will have to get some result of GSL or he can't be count as MC/Nestea and the like yet.
Terran
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
June 20 2011 13:47 GMT
#5078
On June 20 2011 22:45 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:39 Jyvblamo wrote:
Moon has way more international tournament experience than almost any other Korean progamer.

Almost? No SC2-player except maybe Grubby comes even close to the number of tournaments Moon attended, hell I doubt any of them attended as many tournaments as Moon won.

You shouldn't underestimate the amount of tournaments WC3 had :p


Well there is a guy called Nada in sc2 you know
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
June 20 2011 13:47 GMT
#5079
On June 20 2011 22:45 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 22:43 Headnoob wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:38 nihlon wrote:
On June 20 2011 22:37 Headnoob wrote:
Bleh, everything UP till the semifinals has been AMAZING.

these finals are kinda like GSL finals

still though, the group play/RO16 was amazing enough on it's own.


Wut? The semis was more exciting than most ro16 and ro8 games.


i personally don't consider Huk winning exciting, so the semi's have been meh.

big july fan

i wanted bomber to win look at it this way though, bomber vs july :D :D


true that, all that needs to happen is for huk to lose and moon to get a notable SC2 acheivement.
Xception704
Profile Joined May 2008
United States161 Posts
June 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#5080
On June 20 2011 22:37 thepeonwhocould wrote:
Any else notice how the spawn positions played into that game?

Bomber looses one battle and the games over because the players bases are right next to each other. Metalopolis close by air spawns makes for crappy games. Just as bad as steppes of war.


So a map that punishes bad decision making = bad map?

Sounds like you're a player who is used to losing battles and wants a cushion to avoid auto-losses. That or you're a pretty biased Bomber fanboy. Just how you come across to me.
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