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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
June 19 2011 21:19 GMT
#12281
Imagine if MKP and Nada had come. t.t
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
noezke
Profile Joined September 2010
England514 Posts
June 19 2011 21:19 GMT
#12282
On June 20 2011 06:19 Bashion wrote:
How did Jinro do in the tourney?
I didnt watch any of his matches


Not well at all, 1-4 I think.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#12283
On June 20 2011 06:19 NoobSh1t wrote:
Shaping up to be another Korean 1,2,3 honestly. Hope not but it seems very likely.


Sen and/or Naniwa have to win their games to prevent it from being so. Whoever wins the upper bracket is gonna come second in this format.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#12284
On June 20 2011 06:19 epik16 wrote:
Yea Moon is a legend in esports people have to remember this is not his game. He is a WC3 guy and is working his ass off playing another game now and performing very well.


On a side note, why do people like him? His interviews have very boring responses, and he seems to show little interest in the foreign scene other than to get money from it (compare him with MC).

Is it just because he has results in another game? Is that it? People just follow wins like robots, or is some personality actually a factor?
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
June 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#12285
It might have been mentioned already but the VODs of White-Ra vs Moon are up already @ http://www.justin.tv/dreamhacksc2c/b/288413111

Game #1 starts at around 01:28:30 (1 hour 28 minutes 30 sec).
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
June 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#12286
Doesn't look like MC is going to advance. Bomber's TvP is too sick, and he looks to be in great form right now.

Poor MC, running into the greatest XvP players at both recent international tournaments (Losira's ZvP, and now Bomber's TvP).
Musou
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1375 Posts
June 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#12287
On June 20 2011 06:19 NoobSh1t wrote:
Shaping up to be another Korean 1,2,3 honestly. Hope not but it seems very likely.

Rather unlikely, actually. Sen's ZvZ is very strong while July's isn't, and the two favorites to win (MC, Bomber) eliminate each other in the Ro8, while Naniwa has shown he can beat Moon in the past. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see only 1 Korean in ro4, but that one winning (winner of MC/Bomber).
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#12288
On June 20 2011 06:19 Heavenly wrote:
Imagine if MKP and Nada had come. t.t


they would've ripped to shreds every non-Korean in their way.
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#12289
On June 20 2011 06:20 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:19 epik16 wrote:
Yea Moon is a legend in esports people have to remember this is not his game. He is a WC3 guy and is working his ass off playing another game now and performing very well.


On a side note, why do people like him? His interviews have very boring responses, and he seems to show little interest in the foreign scene other than to get money from it (compare him with MC).

Is it just because he has results in another game? Is that it? People just follow wins like robots, or is some personality actually a factor?


He's the Boxer of warcraft 3. That's why.
The Notorious Winkles
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 19 2011 21:20 GMT
#12290
On June 20 2011 06:13 Zyphen wrote:
Wow.... I think I seriously underestimated Moon. Or else the Korean gap is much larger than I thought. I always viewed him as an, at best, average Korean pro.

And please, stop with the ZvP whine. As numerous people have already pointed out, stalkers are stronger than roaches (and should be due to their respective costs) and have the same supply. Blink stalkers pretty much hard counter roaches with good micro. Massing 1 unit is a good strategy if that unit is the counter to your opponent's 1 unit mass. Simple.


Well he's not a top Korean, but he has gotten a whole lot better I have to admit. I think competing in these foreign tournaments where Zergs in general are given much more breathing space than in Korea has helped boost his confidence and with it his overall game. I'm not sure if he would qualify for Code S, but he's certainly growing to become a great zerg.
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
June 19 2011 21:21 GMT
#12291
On June 20 2011 06:19 noezke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:19 Bashion wrote:
How did Jinro do in the tourney?
I didnt watch any of his matches


Not well at all, 1-4 I think.



yea.. it's like that guy who walks into the room just after something horrible has happened.

how's the baby?
miscarriage..
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 21:22:47
June 19 2011 21:21 GMT
#12292
On June 20 2011 06:13 RevLesMis wrote:
after this shit i have to completely agree with CatZ. we need to get the koreans out of foreign tournaments. no racism just saying this is stupid if i wanted to see koreans playing every effing tournament i would watch the GSL,



oh CatZ. you mean that guy who forfeited his match against July cuz he didn't show up on time due to negligence, then made a youtube video whining about it? oh yes, blame the koreans for your own incompetence!
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
June 19 2011 21:21 GMT
#12293
On June 20 2011 06:20 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:19 epik16 wrote:
Yea Moon is a legend in esports people have to remember this is not his game. He is a WC3 guy and is working his ass off playing another game now and performing very well.


On a side note, why do people like him? His interviews have very boring responses, and he seems to show little interest in the foreign scene other than to get money from it (compare him with MC).

Is it just because he has results in another game? Is that it? People just follow wins like robots, or is some personality actually a factor?



They like him because he's the greatest wc3 player of all time and he always shows up to play and does his best to show some good games.

he geniunely seems like a nice guy, he doesn't have to be super charismatic to be likeable.

fartdra
Profile Joined June 2011
92 Posts
June 19 2011 21:21 GMT
#12294
On June 20 2011 06:13 RevLesMis wrote:
after this shit i have to completely agree with CatZ. we need to get the koreans out of foreign tournaments. no racism just saying this is stupid if i wanted to see koreans playing every effing tournament i would watch the GSL,


yea how are those non-korean tournaments doing again? "EG Master's Cup" with their average of 4k viewers a night, maybe 5k on a good night if Idra is playing. Yea that 5k viewer count will really WOW the sponsors and generate tons of ad revenue and make esports grow, great logic there
epik16
Profile Joined June 2011
United States43 Posts
June 19 2011 21:21 GMT
#12295
On June 20 2011 06:19 Heavenly wrote:
Imagine if MKP and Nada had come. t.t


Ugh, still upset about those guys bailing.

Even though I think MMA, MVP, Losira, DRG, Polt, and Nestea might be even better.
MLQ10
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada40 Posts
June 19 2011 21:21 GMT
#12296
On June 20 2011 06:14 Steamroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:10 fartdra wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:09 Denzil wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:05 Kevan wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:01 Denzil wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote:
Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight.

Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well.


Then I'm very worried because Idra has dominated the foreign scene pretty much. Destroyed IPL, destroyed all of his competition in MLG (barring Thorzain). The foreign scene doesn't have much hope to beat Korea if Idra isn't on MC's level.


Thorzain beat him, Sase beat him and I'm pretty sure players like Naniwa, Nerchio, White Ra, Dimaga etc would be able to beat Idra. Naniwa and Thorzain are also going to Korea to improve and play in code A. Give them the time and the opportunity and they will be able to compete with anyone.


Idra was jetlagged day 1. Said so in interviews, on twitter etc.


so when idra jetlagged that is legit excuse, but when MC was jetlagged at MLG that wasn't, i see idra fanboy logic now thx for clarifying


So when MC jetlagged it was legit excuse? But when Idra jetlagged it wasn't? I see MC fanboy logic there.


The difference is that it was evident MC was jetlagged. Yes he lost to Idra 2-0 in the first series, but in the following day after resting and taking a Nos MC said he felt better and felt good. Then on championship sunday he went about his business rolling Idra in the game that mattered 4-0..... Idra fanboyism is quite amusing. In this case most if not all the players coming outside of Europe were most likely jetlagged...
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
June 19 2011 21:21 GMT
#12297
On June 20 2011 06:20 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:19 Heavenly wrote:
Imagine if MKP and Nada had come. t.t


they would've ripped to shreds every non-Korean in their way.


Not necessarily. Nada didn't make it out of NASL qualifiers. I know it was online so it was a factor, but it's still a good point.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
June 19 2011 21:22 GMT
#12298
On June 20 2011 06:19 Heavenly wrote:
Imagine if MKP and Nada had come. t.t

We will have more T in ro8.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 21:24:17
June 19 2011 21:22 GMT
#12299
On June 20 2011 06:16 epik16 wrote:
USA doesn't even dominate at sports other nations actually play.

Even with their own sports, they've been falling behind as well. World football, we're horrible we have holden and howard who are EPL players but the rest are meh. American football, in international tournaments i think spain and japan beat us.

Basketball we are still fairly competitive but that is one of the least skill based sports out there, just be really tall.

Baseball we are bad now and korea and japan are both solid. Hockey canada won.

So yea americans better learn to lose gracefully quick because it likely won't get any better since the reason we were so far ahead in the first place was almost purely due to an economical advantage where other countries were busy trying to feed themselves and live decently rather than chasing sporting opportunities. Tables have turned there as well.


You're fucking joking, right? If the top flight NBA players played in every international competition we'd be unstoppable.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Zeborg
Profile Joined November 2010
107 Posts
June 19 2011 21:22 GMT
#12300
On June 20 2011 06:20 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:19 epik16 wrote:
Yea Moon is a legend in esports people have to remember this is not his game. He is a WC3 guy and is working his ass off playing another game now and performing very well.


On a side note, why do people like him? His interviews have very boring responses, and he seems to show little interest in the foreign scene other than to get money from it (compare him with MC).

Is it just because he has results in another game? Is that it? People just follow wins like robots, or is some personality actually a factor?


People were rooting for MJ when he switched to baseball. It's okay to let people have their own preferences on who they like.
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