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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
thefreed
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
June 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#12221
On June 20 2011 06:04 Stanlot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:03 ZeaL. wrote:
Why are people so nationalistic? If koreans win everything because they're better, whine about how your nation's players can't compete.

It's been that way with sports for as long as sporting events existed.

It's only been that way for Americans lol. Not many other countries feel so high and mighty that they want to be dominating at all sports.
My country is the world, My religion is to do good. -T.P The fool doth thinks his a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool. -W.S
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
June 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#12222
4 Korean, 2 EU, 1 Asia, 1 NA

SooYoung-Noona!
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
June 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#12223
On June 20 2011 06:09 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:05 Kevan wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:01 Denzil wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote:
Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight.

Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well.


Then I'm very worried because Idra has dominated the foreign scene pretty much. Destroyed IPL, destroyed all of his competition in MLG (barring Thorzain). The foreign scene doesn't have much hope to beat Korea if Idra isn't on MC's level.


Thorzain beat him, Sase beat him and I'm pretty sure players like Naniwa, Nerchio, White Ra, Dimaga etc would be able to beat Idra. Naniwa and Thorzain are also going to Korea to improve and play in code A. Give them the time and the opportunity and they will be able to compete with anyone.


Idra was jetlagged day 1. Said so in interviews, on twitter etc.


None of the players he mentioned beside Sase played him when he was jetlagged.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 21:12:42
June 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#12224
On June 20 2011 06:10 fartdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:09 Denzil wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:05 Kevan wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:01 Denzil wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote:
Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight.

Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well.


Then I'm very worried because Idra has dominated the foreign scene pretty much. Destroyed IPL, destroyed all of his competition in MLG (barring Thorzain). The foreign scene doesn't have much hope to beat Korea if Idra isn't on MC's level.


Thorzain beat him, Sase beat him and I'm pretty sure players like Naniwa, Nerchio, White Ra, Dimaga etc would be able to beat Idra. Naniwa and Thorzain are also going to Korea to improve and play in code A. Give them the time and the opportunity and they will be able to compete with anyone.


Idra was jetlagged day 1. Said so in interviews, on twitter etc.


so when idra jetlagged that is legit excuse, but when MC was jetlagged at MLG that wasn't, i see idra fanboy logic now thx for clarifying

Honestly he was probably making a joke...like how MC used jetlagged as a excuse and now Idra is..
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
June 19 2011 21:12 GMT
#12225
On June 20 2011 06:09 leungwk01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote:
5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny

9 Europeans
5 Asians
2 NA

in the ro16

most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA

Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.



Lol What are you trying to say? That EU>NA?

If you dont know that by now we have been laying a differnt game!
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
June 19 2011 21:12 GMT
#12226
On June 20 2011 06:10 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:09 leungwk01 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote:
5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny

9 Europeans
5 Asians
2 NA

in the ro16

most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA

Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.


Wtf is this 5 asia business.

It's 4 korea, 1 taiwan, 2 eu, 1 na.

Sen is a foreigner. Taiwanesee blood and doesn't even live in a korean house.


continents bro
Prime/MarineKing!!! www.twitter.com/DayTripperSC
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
June 19 2011 21:12 GMT
#12227
On June 20 2011 06:09 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:05 Kevan wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:01 Denzil wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote:
Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight.

Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well.


Then I'm very worried because Idra has dominated the foreign scene pretty much. Destroyed IPL, destroyed all of his competition in MLG (barring Thorzain). The foreign scene doesn't have much hope to beat Korea if Idra isn't on MC's level.


Thorzain beat him, Sase beat him and I'm pretty sure players like Naniwa, Nerchio, White Ra, Dimaga etc would be able to beat Idra. Naniwa and Thorzain are also going to Korea to improve and play in code A. Give them the time and the opportunity and they will be able to compete with anyone.


Idra was jetlagged day 1. Said so in interviews, on twitter etc.


I don't care, my point is still valid. Just wait
SC2, rip in pepperinos
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 19 2011 21:12 GMT
#12228
so when idra jetlagged that is legit excuse, but when MC was jetlagged at MLG that wasn't, i see idra fanboy logic now thx for clarifying


just thought the same thing. I love how the same situation is interpreted differently by some people.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 19 2011 21:12 GMT
#12229
NICE Huk won! I'm so glad he's doing well. I <3 Liquid. :p

And man, with all the balance whining, I'm so jealous of the mods. They must be having a field day with their ban-hammers. ^_^ Lucky banlings.
darkness overpowering
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 19 2011 21:12 GMT
#12230
On June 20 2011 06:12 haxard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:10 rysecake wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:09 leungwk01 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote:
5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny

9 Europeans
5 Asians
2 NA

in the ro16

most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA

Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.


Wtf is this 5 asia business.

It's 4 korea, 1 taiwan, 2 eu, 1 na.

Sen is a foreigner. Taiwanesee blood and doesn't even live in a korean house.


continents bro


In starcraft, korea is a continent of it's own. That's been proven enough.
The Notorious Winkles
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
June 19 2011 21:12 GMT
#12231
On June 20 2011 06:08 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:01 Gackt_ wrote:
I kinda lost my respect for IdrA..I've been a fan for a long long long time..but when he disappoints his fans that have waited hours for his games and leaves that easy as he did in game 2 vs MC..that just upsets me.

He screwed it up bigtime for sure with his transition into the game but still.. not microing his units good enough and leaving when he actually got a semi-good chance to get back into the game..that just makes the fans upset.
I dunno if he is scared about humiliation but when he leaves as he does in his games he makes people think he is a quitter. And thats worse..Anyways he is a very talented player..but he seriously made alot of fans wait for practically nothing at all. NesTea would never leave in such a state of the game at least.

I always said SEn is the best non KR Zerg there is and it wouldnt suprise me if I see him winning the whole shit now..I hope he beats July next.


What are you talking about? It was pretty obvious idra was going to lose game 2. There was a huge amount of blink stalkers and immortals against idras roaches and few hydras without range. He played a good game, but MC had a great build with a great transition and great control. Also I think you forget MC 2-0'ed sen as well.


There was one immortal, and it was stuck in the back for awhile, until halfway into the fight, when the stalkers started blinking back.

idra had the advantage until his roach push, which failed, roaches got picked off 3 or 4 at a time, and even on the retreat, rallied roach/ling got sniped. So MC took advantage of these opportunities. If idra sniped the one observor, maybe he could've held with burrow micro until enough hydras got out. It's not like his economy was touched, except for the one dt, who got 5 drones.
drox22
Profile Joined April 2011
129 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12232
On June 20 2011 06:09 leungwk01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote:
5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny

9 Europeans
5 Asians
2 NA

in the ro16

most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA

Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.


Wouldn't make a difference because pretty much every decent NA player except for Kiwikaki competed at that tournament. And EU did better than NA at MLG and also at the NASL, which are both NA tournaments. EU is way better in SC2 than NA; I don't even see how there are people out there who still doubt this.
sadyque
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania251 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12233
Biggest question for me is wtf happend to Jinro? He doesnt practice anymore?
60 bucks? But it has Kerrigans Boobs in three god damn dimensions. Do you know how long i have waited for this?
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12234
On June 20 2011 06:12 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:12 haxard wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:10 rysecake wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:09 leungwk01 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote:
5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny

9 Europeans
5 Asians
2 NA

in the ro16

most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA

Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.


Wtf is this 5 asia business.

It's 4 korea, 1 taiwan, 2 eu, 1 na.

Sen is a foreigner. Taiwanesee blood and doesn't even live in a korean house.


continents bro


In starcraft, korea is a continent of it's own. That's been proven enough.


... no, it's an own world
Fut am Bam
RevLesMis
Profile Joined February 2011
United States23 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12235
after this shit i have to completely agree with CatZ. we need to get the koreans out of foreign tournaments. no racism just saying this is stupid if i wanted to see koreans playing every effing tournament i would watch the GSL,
Ideas are more dangerous then guns, if we don't let our enemies have guns why should we let them have ideas? - Stalin
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12236
On June 20 2011 06:11 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:04 Stanlot wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:03 ZeaL. wrote:
Why are people so nationalistic? If koreans win everything because they're better, whine about how your nation's players can't compete.

It's been that way with sports for as long as sporting events existed.

It's only been that way for Americans lol. Not many other countries feel so high and mighty that they want to be dominating at all sports.


Don't generalize, especially when it's not true.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12237
On June 20 2011 05:53 Cpadolf wrote:
Predictions for tomorrow:

(P)HuK > (P)Socke
(Z)Sen > (Z)July
(T)Bomber > (P)MC
(P)NaNiwa > (Z)Moon

(Z)Sen > (P)HuK
(T)Bomber (P)NaNiwa

(Z)Sen > (T)Bomber

LOL I disagree 100% just the opposite on all games, especially MC Bomber. MC is hot right now and bomber shown weakness.
MC for president
Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12238
http://www.justin.tv/dreamhacksc2c/b/288413111
White-ra vs Moon after 1.29
En Taro Adun!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12239
On June 20 2011 05:55 XiGua wrote:
LISTEN UP!

There is no possible way that there will be a Korean only finals. Looking at the brackets we will have 1 foreigner in the finals 100%. So all the whine about "all koreans" should stop.


It will be the case because DH make the brackets so. :/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Zyphen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
June 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#12240
Wow.... I think I seriously underestimated Moon. Or else the Korean gap is much larger than I thought. I always viewed him as an, at best, average Korean pro.

And please, stop with the ZvP whine. As numerous people have already pointed out, stalkers are stronger than roaches (and should be due to their respective costs) and have the same supply. Blink stalkers pretty much hard counter roaches with good micro. Massing 1 unit is a good strategy if that unit is the counter to your opponent's 1 unit mass. Simple.
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