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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
June 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#12201
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote:
5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny

9 Europeans
5 Asians
2 NA

in the ro16

most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA

Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
June 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#12202
On June 20 2011 06:07 Vadrigar wrote:
Did anyone see (P)White-Ra's second game? It was a base trade scenario and he lost by having all his buildings destroyed while his 100+ supply army was still alive and he had probes + 900minerals. Why didn't you build a building (P)White-Ra? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?


answer please ...
Fut am Bam
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#12203
On June 20 2011 06:05 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:01 Denzil wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote:
Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight.

Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well.


Then I'm very worried because Idra has dominated the foreign scene pretty much. Destroyed IPL, destroyed all of his competition in MLG (barring Thorzain). The foreign scene doesn't have much hope to beat Korea if Idra isn't on MC's level.


Thorzain beat him, Sase beat him and I'm pretty sure players like Naniwa, Nerchio, White Ra, Dimaga etc would be able to beat Idra. Naniwa and Thorzain are also going to Korea to improve and play in code A. Give them the time and the opportunity and they will be able to compete with anyone.


Idra was jetlagged day 1. Said so in interviews, on twitter etc.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#12204
On June 20 2011 06:08 epik16 wrote:
Are there VoDs? I want to see Moon vs Ra.

Go to the justin.tv channel it was on and check the archives

Not sure which jtv channel it was on though.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#12205
Naugrim doing better against MC than Idra...:D
jenzebubble
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
June 19 2011 21:09 GMT
#12206
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote:
5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny

9 Europeans
5 Asians
2 NA

in the ro16

most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA


You do realize that the ratio of EU:NA was not 1:1?
"It's like waxing your balls, it hurts like a biiiitch but after they are silky smooth...." -Kennigit
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12207
lol. huk just had the korean effect on him.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12208
On June 20 2011 06:05 LittleJohn wrote:
hahahahahhaha

whenever idra loses to a protoss his entire fanclub comes into the LR thread and whines about forcefield imba and all kind of silly things.


Yup.

Socke beats Ret. P wins
July beats Mana. Z wins
Moon beats WhiteRa. Z wins
Sen beats SaSe. Z wins

So its about even between protoss and zerg by the end (that's not a comment on balance, just results)

But once MC (arguably the best player in the world) beats IdrA, there is a huge shit storm about balance. Amazing.

I don't know why people bother... really. If you want to complain about balance, please just take the time to actually do some good analysis, and most importantly DO NOT DO IT ON A GAME THAT YOU ARE EMOTIONALLY INVESTED IN. Too many people who are complaining wanted IdrA to win. Emotions can get in the way of logic...
D_bo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States50 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12209
On June 20 2011 06:01 D_bo wrote:
MC is just awesome vs Zergs go check the gomtv / tlpd records.. Idra played a gg, don't hate
Not too many Zergs have beat him in a series. Not whine just facts


According to TLPD / GOMtv MC is ~ 23 wins - 3 loses in series wins vs Zergs only Lorsira, Nestea, and Idra have taken a series off of him
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12210
On June 20 2011 06:09 WhurreOdu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:07 Vadrigar wrote:
Did anyone see (P)White-Ra's second game? It was a base trade scenario and he lost by having all his buildings destroyed while his 100+ supply army was still alive and he had probes + 900minerals. Why didn't you build a building (P)White-Ra? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?


answer please ...

It was his speshial taktiks... But it failed
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
epik16
Profile Joined June 2011
United States43 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12211
On June 20 2011 06:08 Arcanne wrote:
MC vs Bomber too early..


Yea I think SC2 tournaments should come up with better ways to seed players into the championship bracket by perhaps w:l ratio for that tournament or something because we've consistently seen 2nd, 3rd place quality players end up 6th-8th.

Bomber vs MC should be semi at the earliest if not the final.
fartdra
Profile Joined June 2011
92 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12212
On June 20 2011 06:09 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:05 Kevan wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:01 Denzil wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote:
Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight.

Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well.


Then I'm very worried because Idra has dominated the foreign scene pretty much. Destroyed IPL, destroyed all of his competition in MLG (barring Thorzain). The foreign scene doesn't have much hope to beat Korea if Idra isn't on MC's level.


Thorzain beat him, Sase beat him and I'm pretty sure players like Naniwa, Nerchio, White Ra, Dimaga etc would be able to beat Idra. Naniwa and Thorzain are also going to Korea to improve and play in code A. Give them the time and the opportunity and they will be able to compete with anyone.


Idra was jetlagged day 1. Said so in interviews, on twitter etc.


so when idra jetlagged that is legit excuse, but when MC was jetlagged at MLG that wasn't, i see idra fanboy logic now thx for clarifying
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 21:11:12
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12213
On June 20 2011 06:08 epik16 wrote:
Are there VoDs? I want to see Moon vs Ra.


I think you will have to wait for blip to process them as separate vods. The games are added up at http://www.sc2casts.com I think today's games will be added tomorrow.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12214
On June 20 2011 06:06 Tsuki.eu wrote:
only 1 T alive? BOMBER FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!

Tbh Bomber is all that is needed.

On June 20 2011 06:06 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:03 mordk wrote:
Koreans dominating again. How do they fare in series now? Like.. 15-1??


no.

It is 23-1.

Moon denying a complete Korean sweep makes me sad . He's pretty awesome though so we'll forgive him.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12215
On June 20 2011 06:08 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:03 mordk wrote:
Koreans dominating again. How do they fare in series now? Like.. 15-1??

Not too surprising though. Perhaps the only surprise for me was moon 2-0'ing White-Ra. I mean, White-Ra is an amazing player, I thought he would be capable of beating moon, who's not that impressive.

That said, I think that while moon isn't that good at SC2, he's got sort of a "champion's heart", he always seems to pull off some ridiculous unheard of skill when playing in LANs, that's why I never count him out. His WC3 stage experience has made him a tremendous competitor.

Lol you call White ra amazing and call Moon not that impressive when he just 2-0d white ra? I mean that's pretty biased.
... You have to be good at sc2 to perform in a stage like this... I mean his gotten so far in most of the foreign tournaments his been in.


I call him not too impressive based on seeing his games and watching him not being able to even enter code A anymore. He's not a top korean. He performs well in LANs, I'm pretty sure that's because of his extensive tournament experience and success, but his SC2 skill isn't too high, that's been shown multiple times on GSL.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12216
On June 20 2011 06:09 leungwk01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:
On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote:
5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny

9 Europeans
5 Asians
2 NA

in the ro16

most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA

Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.


Wtf is this 5 asia business.

It's 4 korea, 1 taiwan, 2 eu, 1 na.

Sen is a foreigner. Taiwanesee blood and doesn't even live in a korean house.
The Notorious Winkles
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#12217
On June 20 2011 06:06 Tsuki.eu wrote:
only 1 T alive? BOMBER FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!


By EU LAN standards, that means he'll win the whole thing. Tournaments have this weird thing where the last of a race always seems to go really far.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#12218
On June 20 2011 06:10 KillAudio wrote:
lol. huk just had the korean effect on him.


Both Huk and Jinro are training in Korea, but Huk made it much further than Jinro did. I don't think it's fair to undersell Huk in this tournament. He did well.
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 21:11:35
June 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#12219
On June 20 2011 06:07 Wren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:54 Heavenly wrote:
Roaches get owned too hard by stalkers? You mean the unit that costs half that of a stalker but can beat it one on one in equal upgrades

It's worth noting that this is completely wrong. 1 stalker kills 1 roach, even if it doesn't fire until it moves into roach range and there's no micro.


Pretty sure when they're both upgraded that stops happening, since roaches get +2 per upgrade and stalkers get +1.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 19 2011 21:11 GMT
#12220
Does this start at 10AM CET tommorow?
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
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