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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:
Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining
Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it. |
On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote: 5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny 9 Europeans 5 Asians 2 NA in the ro16 most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.
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On June 20 2011 06:07 Vadrigar wrote:Did anyone see White-Ra's second game? It was a base trade scenario and he lost by having all his buildings destroyed while his 100+ supply army was still alive and he had probes + 900minerals. Why didn't you build a building White-Ra? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy? 
answer please ...
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On June 20 2011 06:05 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:01 Denzil wrote:On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote: Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight.
Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well. Then I'm very worried because Idra has dominated the foreign scene pretty much. Destroyed IPL, destroyed all of his competition in MLG (barring Thorzain). The foreign scene doesn't have much hope to beat Korea if Idra isn't on MC's level. Thorzain beat him, Sase beat him and I'm pretty sure players like Naniwa, Nerchio, White Ra, Dimaga etc would be able to beat Idra. Naniwa and Thorzain are also going to Korea to improve and play in code A. Give them the time and the opportunity and they will be able to compete with anyone.
Idra was jetlagged day 1. Said so in interviews, on twitter etc.
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On June 20 2011 06:08 epik16 wrote: Are there VoDs? I want to see Moon vs Ra. Go to the justin.tv channel it was on and check the archives
Not sure which jtv channel it was on though.
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Naugrim doing better against MC than Idra...:D
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On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote: 5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny 9 Europeans 5 Asians 2 NA in the ro16 most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA
You do realize that the ratio of EU:NA was not 1:1?
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lol. huk just had the korean effect on him.
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On June 20 2011 06:05 LittleJohn wrote: hahahahahhaha
whenever idra loses to a protoss his entire fanclub comes into the LR thread and whines about forcefield imba and all kind of silly things.
Yup.
Socke beats Ret. P wins July beats Mana. Z wins Moon beats WhiteRa. Z wins Sen beats SaSe. Z wins
So its about even between protoss and zerg by the end (that's not a comment on balance, just results)
But once MC (arguably the best player in the world) beats IdrA, there is a huge shit storm about balance. Amazing.
I don't know why people bother... really. If you want to complain about balance, please just take the time to actually do some good analysis, and most importantly DO NOT DO IT ON A GAME THAT YOU ARE EMOTIONALLY INVESTED IN. Too many people who are complaining wanted IdrA to win. Emotions can get in the way of logic...
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On June 20 2011 06:01 D_bo wrote: MC is just awesome vs Zergs go check the gomtv / tlpd records.. Idra played a gg, don't hate Not too many Zergs have beat him in a series. Not whine just facts
According to TLPD / GOMtv MC is ~ 23 wins - 3 loses in series wins vs Zergs only Lorsira, Nestea, and Idra have taken a series off of him
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On June 20 2011 06:09 WhurreOdu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:07 Vadrigar wrote:Did anyone see White-Ra's second game? It was a base trade scenario and he lost by having all his buildings destroyed while his 100+ supply army was still alive and he had probes + 900minerals. Why didn't you build a building White-Ra? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?  answer please ... It was his speshial taktiks... But it failed
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On June 20 2011 06:08 Arcanne wrote: MC vs Bomber too early..
Yea I think SC2 tournaments should come up with better ways to seed players into the championship bracket by perhaps w:l ratio for that tournament or something because we've consistently seen 2nd, 3rd place quality players end up 6th-8th.
Bomber vs MC should be semi at the earliest if not the final.
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On June 20 2011 06:09 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:05 Kevan wrote:On June 20 2011 06:01 Denzil wrote:On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote: Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight.
Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well. Then I'm very worried because Idra has dominated the foreign scene pretty much. Destroyed IPL, destroyed all of his competition in MLG (barring Thorzain). The foreign scene doesn't have much hope to beat Korea if Idra isn't on MC's level. Thorzain beat him, Sase beat him and I'm pretty sure players like Naniwa, Nerchio, White Ra, Dimaga etc would be able to beat Idra. Naniwa and Thorzain are also going to Korea to improve and play in code A. Give them the time and the opportunity and they will be able to compete with anyone. Idra was jetlagged day 1. Said so in interviews, on twitter etc.
so when idra jetlagged that is legit excuse, but when MC was jetlagged at MLG that wasn't, i see idra fanboy logic now thx for clarifying
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On June 20 2011 06:08 epik16 wrote: Are there VoDs? I want to see Moon vs Ra.
I think you will have to wait for blip to process them as separate vods. The games are added up at http://www.sc2casts.com I think today's games will be added tomorrow.
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On June 20 2011 06:06 Tsuki.eu wrote: only 1 T alive? BOMBER FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!! Tbh Bomber is all that is needed.
On June 20 2011 06:06 Awesomeness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:03 mordk wrote: Koreans dominating again. How do they fare in series now? Like.. 15-1??
no. It is 23-1. Moon denying a complete Korean sweep makes me sad . He's pretty awesome though so we'll forgive him.
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On June 20 2011 06:08 thefreed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:03 mordk wrote: Koreans dominating again. How do they fare in series now? Like.. 15-1??
Not too surprising though. Perhaps the only surprise for me was moon 2-0'ing White-Ra. I mean, White-Ra is an amazing player, I thought he would be capable of beating moon, who's not that impressive.
That said, I think that while moon isn't that good at SC2, he's got sort of a "champion's heart", he always seems to pull off some ridiculous unheard of skill when playing in LANs, that's why I never count him out. His WC3 stage experience has made him a tremendous competitor. Lol you call White ra amazing and call Moon not that impressive when he just 2-0d white ra? I mean that's pretty biased. ... You have to be good at sc2 to perform in a stage like this... I mean his gotten so far in most of the foreign tournaments his been in.
I call him not too impressive based on seeing his games and watching him not being able to even enter code A anymore. He's not a top korean. He performs well in LANs, I'm pretty sure that's because of his extensive tournament experience and success, but his SC2 skill isn't too high, that's been shown multiple times on GSL.
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On June 20 2011 06:09 leungwk01 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:07 drox22 wrote:On June 20 2011 06:02 haxard wrote: 5 Asia, 2 EU, 1 NA in a completely dominated EU tourny 9 Europeans 5 Asians 2 NA in the ro16 most europeans lost to koreans, NA is still the worst out there together with SEA Look at the groups and compare how many NA/ competed to EU.
Wtf is this 5 asia business.
It's 4 korea, 1 taiwan, 2 eu, 1 na.
Sen is a foreigner. Taiwanesee blood and doesn't even live in a korean house.
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On June 20 2011 06:06 Tsuki.eu wrote: only 1 T alive? BOMBER FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!
By EU LAN standards, that means he'll win the whole thing. Tournaments have this weird thing where the last of a race always seems to go really far.
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On June 20 2011 06:10 KillAudio wrote: lol. huk just had the korean effect on him.
Both Huk and Jinro are training in Korea, but Huk made it much further than Jinro did. I don't think it's fair to undersell Huk in this tournament. He did well.
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On June 20 2011 06:07 Wren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:54 Heavenly wrote: Roaches get owned too hard by stalkers? You mean the unit that costs half that of a stalker but can beat it one on one in equal upgrades It's worth noting that this is completely wrong. 1 stalker kills 1 roach, even if it doesn't fire until it moves into roach range and there's no micro.
Pretty sure when they're both upgraded that stops happening, since roaches get +2 per upgrade and stalkers get +1.
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Does this start at 10AM CET tommorow?
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