EPTI don't see how this is a problem though... it would only be a problem if they are unbeatable... but they are far from it. And they certainly are very expensive.
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
I don't see how this is a problem though... it would only be a problem if they are unbeatable... but they are far from it. And they certainly are very expensive. | ||
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Zekely
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1) Watch his NASL matches 2) Watch his games from this tournament 3) Learn to use the Team Liquid Database<<<<<<<<******** One botched baneling detonation, and one silly comment from Huk on SOTG and everyone assumes he's terrible. Sigh..... | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
There is no possible way that there will be a Korean only finals. Looking at the brackets we will have 1 foreigner in the finals 100%. So all the whine about "all koreans" should stop. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:52 epik16 wrote: Let's be honest, Idra is not on MC's level so we shouldn't use their games for balance insight. Losira absolutely raped MC. Zergs like Nestea, July would be better and the new generation of zergs like DRG and Line would probably give him headaches as well. Losira didn't rape MC to be fair. Game 1 Losira outplayed MC, Game 2 was the tip top level of ZvP from both players and MC with some phenomenal multi tasking, holds, micro etc.. and Game 3 Losira did an all in 'trick' style play which worked. Losira has the second best ZvP in the world and is a phenomenal player but he didn't crush MC by any means. | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:46 Stratos_speAr wrote: Definitely more than 20 Stalkers, that Immortal, and what about the 6+ Sentries? IdrA lost a huge amount of Roaches to Force Field. IdrA just got outplayed. You need to suck it up. i said it earlier but i lagged through the whole last fight, but i saw no sentries at the final engagement which is what everyone is talking about. The bold is just uncalled for. | ||
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flanksteak
Canada246 Posts
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:53 Cpadolf wrote: Predictions for tomorrow:  HuK > Socke Sen > July Bomber > MCNaNiwa > MoonSen > HuKBomber NaNiwaSen > BomberI agree 100% with you. Bombers TVP is crazily good. Even better than Polt´s. | ||
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:52 neoenigma wrote: I don't know... I watched that game and honestly thought Idra played better (at least in game 2). I think BLIZZARD needs to look at games like this and figure out how to tweak mass blink stalkers. Of course, infestors would help.... Why do you need to look at mass blink stalkers when there are answers like you mentioned: infestors | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
Skilled players are op, not the races. indeed, people need to look more at the PLAYERS that advance and not the RACE. | ||
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
I am more surprised there is not much of talk about Bratok. When he was invited I thought he will fail hard, no matter how much I like him, it is just that he is so inconsistent... But that second game vs Naniwa was... Wow... Gotta give him props. He's a beast. Though Naniwa is a beaster beast, lol.  | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:48 rysecake wrote: Unfortunately people won't accept that. Korea has the talent, the infrastructure, the work ethic, everything. I don't see the foreign scene catching up for at least 3+ years, if not ever. It's infrastructure and nothing else. The ability to find & train players with the proper skill sets for the sports. It's why the best basketball players are American, the best soccer (football) players aren't, that the Japanese rock face at Arcade fighting games (still have an arcade structure), the South Koreans have the best RTS players and the Swedes seem to dominate the European scene in most esports. It's the ability to attract and train that are keys. Without professional coaching environments, the non-Korean scene will have issues keeping up. It's why the move towards team-houses is going to be huge for the non-Korean scene. | ||
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akaname
United Kingdom599 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:51 oogieogie wrote: the thing with the LoL streams is it is counting everyone that even just logs into LoL i think. I honestly don't believe it has that many people watching it. this made me try out LoL today. Whatever reason it's got more viewers (be it it's only tournament, they tricked people to watch, only 1 stream, etc) is irrelevant, SC2 is a far, far, far better game to play and watch. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:51 Spicy Pepper wrote: I'm rooting for Bangladesh players only. Screw the rest of the world. I have no idea who's going to win any of the next matches. I think Socke has better pvp, but I am rooting for Huk. I'll like to see Huk v MC or Huk v Bomber in the finals. Easiest match to predict is Sen > July, since July's zvz has been pretty weak. Bomber vs MC could be the championship round. I'll say MC > Bomber (but no clue really) Moon > Naniwa, no idea again, but seems like Moon gets overlooked despite his constant solid showings. No one ever thinks he'll win it all, but some people actually trash him despite him showing he's a very solid player. I don't see Moon beating Naniwa. Moon is a solid player who has pretty decent showings in foreign tournaments, but I think he would struggle against most Code A Korean players or top 3-5 foreigners. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:55 deathly rat wrote: Idra's ZvP is really behind the meta-game. There is no reason not to get a few infestors (they are good vs everything). Other high profile zergs are using mass upgraded lings or heavy mutas or infestors, but Idra still often goes roach/hydra, which protoss has been used to dealing with for so long. Nestea, Losira and July are probably the top three ZvP players in the world and none of them use infestor with any regularity. | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:52 Caphe wrote: Idra fanboys are just ridiculous. Idra got a huge advantage after playing like a boss with amazing star sense on the 1st half of the game. Then he decide to mass Roach O_O. If he tech to any tech path he would have won, even teching to overlord drop is gonna screw MC up big time, Muta will do as well, and ofc infestor and bane will own stalkers. Some people will see what they want to see I'm pretty sure the majority of "Idra fanboys" here (including myself) are in fact acknowledging that mass roaches gets destroyed by blink stalker (note - not imbalanced, just a fact), and saying that Idra needs to get his shit together and get a more diverse army comp once he has that big of a lead. And for the record, a tech switch to Muta would have probably been complete shit against a mass blink stalker 2 base all in. | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:55 XiGua wrote: LISTEN UP! There is no possible way that there will be a Korean only finals. Looking at the brackets we will have 1 foreigner in the finals 100%. So all the whine about "all koreans" should stop. It is possible to have a korean only finals, if july wins | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:55 XiGua wrote: LISTEN UP! There is no possible way that there will be a Korean only finals. Looking at the brackets we will have 1 foreigner in the finals 100%. So all the whine about "all koreans" should stop. *Looks at Brackets* *Notices July is on one side of the bracket* *Notices Bomber, MC and Moon on the other side* Wat? | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:54 Zaurus wrote: Completely agree. Everything is pointing to the fact the Koreans have the best training setups suitable for SC2. Wait..you just contradicted yourself. We already know it's the training regime that makes koreans the best. Foreigners will never have that work ethic or infrastructure. By the time they do get it the korean infrastructure will probably be at the next level anyways. Koreans will forever be ahead. That's not to say you can't enjoy foreigner play. Cheering for your home team is always fun. But the foreigner scene is and possibly will always be in the shadow of the korean scene. | ||
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azr
Norway144 Posts
On June 20 2011 05:55 XiGua wrote: LISTEN UP! There is no possible way that there will be a Korean only finals. Looking at the brackets we will have 1 foreigner in the finals 100%. So all the whine about "all koreans" should stop. You are wrong, shut up. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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