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Sadly after all this time with so many tournament threads it still is not clear to many users on this site. There are several types of posts that are not acceptable in tournament threads. Any form of:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining

Will result in two day to a week long bans even for first offenses. Please stick to the games at hand and enjoy yourselves with a beautiful event such as this and the free service that comes with it.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12021

When u see the same players winning again and again, yes.


well then some people better step da fuck up and challenge them. ^^
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12022
On June 20 2011 05:50 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:42 Scribble wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:36 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:32 shaman6ix wrote:
go ahaid brainwashed idra minions, whine about balance despite idra playing painfully bad

70 food lead = bad play? oh, wow, idra haters are just as bad as idra lovers.


Massing pure Roach = bad play. I'm sorry that IdrA can't win with one unit.


The problem with this statement is the "Idra can't win with one unit" remark, when that's exactly what MC did. Not saying there is necessarily an imbalance, just pointing out that your statement doesn't make sense.


If you don't believe forcefields kept MC alive in Idra's initial push near MC's expo, then I don't know what to say.

Also, that immortal did a metric fuck ton of damage.

That isn't one unit. That is using many units properly.

Also understand that people just can't wish units into existence. MC was trapped and had to all-in with blink stalkers because he couldn't get a 3rd. Infestors may have not been the ideal unit to get because it wouldn't come fast enough to make a difference.

But the hydra den probably should have come a bit sooner.


I don't think people are asking him to get infestors reactively. Just saying he needs to tech into *something* besides pure roach, especially when MC is on the ropes like that after his DT rush did jack and losing all his sentries to the burrow-move push
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12023
Well here's to hoping that EG practice house is put to good use! Hire a coach. : )
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12024
On June 20 2011 05:51 TooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:50 CroDeadman wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:46 Steamroller wrote:
I hope Naniwa pulls off a miracle or this is going to be one boring tournament again.


Exactly my thoughts.



Boring? Watching the better players win is boring?

You like the storyline rather than gameplay I guess.

you always have a story when MC is around.
azr
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway144 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12025
On June 20 2011 05:50 Proxd wrote:
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On June 20 2011 05:42 Pipeline wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:40 Ariovist wrote:
So, which idiot schedule that most interesting matches for MONDAY, a day, where normal people have to work -.-


Can I point out that Dreamhack is (unfortunately) mainly a LAN event. Sorry for the people that arent on site or not on vacation :<


Now that doesn't make any sense. Take Formula 1 for instance, they always try to get the timing to fit the most viewers (V i e w e r s), altough it is a circuit race with spectators on the spot.

In most sports the finals are always the Sunday anyway, cause of the viewers attendance.





SOoo yeah, so much for the finals, hope they will change their scheduling a little for the upcoming "lan" on the interwebz.



The LAN is the priority, not the e-sports competitions at the LAN event.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12026
On June 20 2011 05:51 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Hydra just don't work well enough against mass blink stalkers.


Yes they do, as long as the cost is equal, even if he has great blink micro the hydras will just eat the stalkers.


MC vs Idra game on testbug at MLG kinda show you that it's not the case. :/

He had 4 dts killing his hydras with no detection.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12027
On June 20 2011 05:35 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:31 eYeball wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:30 zev318 wrote:
blink stalkers are too good vs anything tbh


Damn balance whiner, please leave the forum if your going to complain T_T


Great micro by MC


ur retarded. how is that whining? blink stalker r very good vs just about anything, cause u can blink back.

Read your first post, then reconsider who the retarded one is.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12028
On June 20 2011 05:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
Hydra just don't work well enough against mass blink stalkers.


Yes they do, as long as the cost is equal, even if he has great blink micro the hydras will just eat the stalkers.

Did you even know that Stalkers beat Hydras in 1v1 even without micro? Or 5v5? Or 15v15?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12029
Idra fanboys are just ridiculous. Idra got a huge advantage after playing like a boss with amazing star sense on the 1st half of the game.
Then he decide to mass Roach O_O.
If he tech to any tech path he would have won, even teching to overlord drop is gonna screw MC up big time, Muta will do as well, and ofc infestor and bane will own stalkers.

Terran
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 19 2011 20:52 GMT
#12030
All and all, fantastic games. Thank you for providing such an epic tournament Dreamhack.


Thank you to all the live reporters, you all did an amazing job.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12031
On June 20 2011 05:52 FinnGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:51 Demonaz wrote:
Are the quarter finals B05s?

Only finals


So its all b03 until finals? I guess its time constraints but still at least semis b05 and final bo7 I think.
Znoz
Profile Joined January 2011
Latvia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 20:53:13
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12032
Korean finals ftw... again
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12033
On June 20 2011 05:51 Refreshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:47 Xpace wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:46 leungwk01 wrote:
Koreans once again rolling another tournament
Even with top EU/US player its the same story

Anyway
socke>huk
sen>july
bomber>mc
moon>naniwa

And MC owns everyone. even sen..


It will never change. Koreans will always be better than foreigners. It's not fanboyism or racism, it's the simple truth.


I don't think koreans will always be the best. I think the player that practices harder/the most will always be the best. HuK is not a korean korean. but he practices similar like the koreans so he is doing really well.

the general consensus is that koreans will always practices harder so therefore they will always dominate the scene
landmarktiger
Profile Joined April 2011
226 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12034
Cant belive all the balance whinning - why cant people admit that mc is just better than idra? He did loose to losira at mlg not like he is unbeatable
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12035
On June 20 2011 05:47 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:46 leungwk01 wrote:
Koreans once again rolling another tournament
Even with top EU/US player its the same story

Anyway
socke>huk
sen>july
bomber>mc
moon>naniwa

And MC owns everyone. even sen..


It will never change. Koreans will always be better than foreigners. It's not fanboyism or racism, it's the simple truth.


Well it is more of simple logic I would argue. If you play more, you get better! If you train with other skilled individuals you get better!

The foreign scene and the Korean scene most likely are just as big, it is simply the amount of hours put together that brings them ahead. Broodwar has nothing to do with the Korean dominance! It is simply just down to man hours and how much effort you put down in the game
shaman6ix
Profile Joined January 2011
Greece212 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12036
On June 20 2011 05:50 darlhet wrote:
did white ra lose?


yup ;/
when evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve
damorphy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands78 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12037
On June 20 2011 05:40 Ariovist wrote:
So, which idiot schedule that most interesting matches for MONDAY, a day, where normal people have to work -.-


Yes I am seriously annoyed by that as well. Can probably watch vods somewhere, but it's by far not as fun as watching live.
Oh it's ON !
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12038
On June 20 2011 05:49 Azarkon wrote:
There is a guaranteed foreigner in the Ro4, since Huk vs. Socke will result in one advancing (I take the stance that Huk is a foreigner in Korea). If Naniwa and Sen can also make it, then it'll be 3 foreigners 1 Korean in the Ro4. It's not over yet, but it's increasingly looking grim for the foreigner's scene.

MLG Columbus seems to have been no fluke. Europeans are falling like flies just like Americans were


I would say that HuK is technically a Korean, but since hes white hes also a foreigner so if I root for him then he is counted as a Korean, but in real terms he is a Korean.

If you know what I mean :3
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12039
On June 20 2011 05:51 Refreshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 05:47 Xpace wrote:
On June 20 2011 05:46 leungwk01 wrote:
Koreans once again rolling another tournament
Even with top EU/US player its the same story

Anyway
socke>huk
sen>july
bomber>mc
moon>naniwa

And MC owns everyone. even sen..


It will never change. Koreans will always be better than foreigners. It's not fanboyism or racism, it's the simple truth.


I don't think koreans will always be the best. I think the player that practices harder/the most will always be the best. HuK is not a korean korean. but he practices similar like the koreans so he is doing really well.

Huk would have been equally roflstomped by MC (and probably would be to any of the kroeans except for Moon).

The simple fact of the matter is the korean ladder is the strongest, they have the infrastructure to support players, they have tons of proteams with strict practice regimens.

There is no way foreigners are ever going to catch up without either a) moving to korea or b) developing similar routines.

And I don't even know if b) is possible.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
June 19 2011 20:53 GMT
#12040
Predictions for tomorrow:

(P)HuK > (P)Socke
(Z)Sen > (Z)July
(T)Bomber > (P)MC
(P)NaNiwa > (Z)Moon

(Z)Sen > (P)HuK
(T)Bomber (P)NaNiwa

(Z)Sen > (T)Bomber
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