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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
June 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#11341
On June 19 2011 07:44 Kagge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:43 EchelonTee wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not???????

idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances

can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now

idra advances


Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket.

must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance

IdrA 3-2 7-6
Grubby 3-2 6-5


6-5 is better than 7-6 imho


either way.. idra won head to head. overall he did better than grubby.



There is really no discussion as Idra beat Grubby 2-0, why should he advance there is no argument for it... ????


Me, as a grubby fanboy, totally agree with you. Idra deserves to advance because he is tied with someone he beat 2-0. However, why would dreamhack change standings that were already final. I mean the results of that group were final for some hours, then all of a sudden got changed.

Don't get me wrong, i'll be happy if Grubby advances due to some miracle rule.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
waffleduck
Profile Joined August 2010
125 Posts
June 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#11342
Are the VoDs up yet?
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#11343
On June 19 2011 07:45 Nvar wrote:
MC will gain ALOT more fans after this Co-cast, im sure about that. All in all great day from Sweden, i enjoyed it very much.

Also another recommended game is Kas vs Naama G2 or G3 cant remember .
SaSe played some dominating Protoss vs Kas aswell.

Both game 2 and 3 of kas vs naama were good. Game 2 was the one with unorthodox play if that is what you are referring to.
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
June 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#11344
On June 19 2011 07:45 Nvar wrote:
MC will gain ALOT more fans after this Co-cast, im sure about that. All in all great day from Sweden, i enjoyed it very much.

Also another recommended game is Kas vs Naama G2 or G3 cant remember .
SaSe played some dominating Protoss vs Kas aswell.



Agreed, but MC and TB were effing awesome together :D
Kagge
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden59 Posts
June 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#11345
On June 19 2011 07:45 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23

Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34

(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)


Wasn't Zerg imba at MLG? OMG clearly it's Toss imba!

Lol people keep pulling the race statistics....... such a small sample size. Of course no mention that MC/Naniwa have played all their games already, while Idra has played and so has Sen (Dimaga and Morrow too... that didn't go so well). Thorzain has only played 2 games so there terran #s might be higher tomorrow, as well... you had merz/Tarson/Naama/Cloud/Jimpo/Diestar who aren't ready for the big stage... all terran.


As I said this is just statistics of day one, there is no balance discussion tbh. Just numbers no names nothing. I just find it funny to put it togheter, not meant to start a discussion.
Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 22:48:44
June 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#11346
On June 19 2011 07:45 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23

Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34

(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)


Wasn't Zerg imba at MLG? OMG clearly it's Toss imba!

Lol people keep pulling the race statistics....... such a small sample size. Of course no mention that MC/Naniwa have played all their games already, while Idra has played and so has Sen (Dimaga and Morrow too... that didn't go so well). Thorzain has only played 2 games so there terran #s might be higher tomorrow, as well... you had merz/Tarson/Naama/Cloud/Jimpo/Diestar who aren't ready for the big stage... all terran.


and no matter how much people try to tell you they are just doing statistics, people think its a balance whine
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#11347
The noises MC made when the DT's were in Tarsons base were soooo funny. xD
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
June 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#11348
On June 19 2011 07:47 waffleduck wrote:
Are the VoDs up yet?

More importantly, where will they be once they do go up?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
June 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#11349
On June 19 2011 07:47 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:45 Nvar wrote:
MC will gain ALOT more fans after this Co-cast, im sure about that. All in all great day from Sweden, i enjoyed it very much.

Also another recommended game is Kas vs Naama G2 or G3 cant remember .
SaSe played some dominating Protoss vs Kas aswell.

Both game 2 and 3 of kas vs naama were good. Game 2 was the one with unorthodox play if that is what you are referring to.


Game 2 was the one with 50 ravens flying about? That certainly was a fun game to watch rofl.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Kagge
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden59 Posts
June 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#11350
On June 19 2011 07:47 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:44 Kagge wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:43 EchelonTee wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not???????

idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances

can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now

idra advances


Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket.

must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance

IdrA 3-2 7-6
Grubby 3-2 6-5


6-5 is better than 7-6 imho


either way.. idra won head to head. overall he did better than grubby.



There is really no discussion as Idra beat Grubby 2-0, why should he advance there is no argument for it... ????


Me, as a grubby fanboy, totally agree with you. Idra deserves to advance because he is tied with someone he beat 2-0. However, why would dreamhack change standings that were already final. I mean the results of that group were final for some hours, then all of a sudden got changed.

Don't get me wrong, i'll be happy if Grubby advances due to some miracle rule.


Word. I love grubby but its just not reasonable for him to advance...
cosmo.6792
Profile Joined September 2010
161 Posts
June 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#11351
On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23

Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34

(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)



I'm pretty sure that these statistics were skewed heavily by the fact that no Korean has played Terran in this tournament so far. Bomber will bolster those Terran stats tomorrow.
PigglyWinks
Profile Joined May 2011
364 Posts
June 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#11352
On June 19 2011 07:45 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23

Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34

(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)


Good job. That explains why the Protoss are on top all over the place. Big advantage in PvT at this tournament (could just simply be where the metagame is at the moment).


Or it could be down to the two best Protoss (MC, Naniwa) having played 10 games and the two best Terran (Bomber, Thorzain) having played 2 games.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#11353
On June 19 2011 07:47 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:44 Kagge wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:43 EchelonTee wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not???????

idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances

can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now

idra advances


Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket.

must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance

IdrA 3-2 7-6
Grubby 3-2 6-5


6-5 is better than 7-6 imho


either way.. idra won head to head. overall he did better than grubby.



There is really no discussion as Idra beat Grubby 2-0, why should he advance there is no argument for it... ????


Me, as a grubby fanboy, totally agree with you. Idra deserves to advance because he is tied with someone he beat 2-0. However, why would dreamhack change standings that were already final. I mean the results of that group were final for some hours, then all of a sudden got changed.

Don't get me wrong, i'll be happy if Grubby advances due to some miracle rule.


Because the system has other wrong listings as well. In group B, Socke is #1 and BratOK is #2. It's likely, since Grubby's game ended last in group C, that the system just recalculated itself when someone updated it for the next set of groups.
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
June 18 2011 22:49 GMT
#11354
On June 19 2011 07:47 waffleduck wrote:
Are the VoDs up yet?


Some of em are up on day9tv.blip.tv
._
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden4 Posts
June 18 2011 22:49 GMT
#11355
Hahaha MC: "Verry Important Casting...!"

Epic.
No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride... and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well... maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
June 18 2011 22:49 GMT
#11356
On June 19 2011 07:44 Enox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:39 toadyy wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not???????

idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances

can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now

idra advances


Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket.

must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance

IdrA 3-2 7-6
Grubby 3-2 6-5


6-5 is better than 7-6 imho


6 5 is better than 7 6 thats a fact lol, Grubby should advanced if its based on GAMES and not series, there will be no reason for a tiebreaker because Grubby has a better win %.

lol? how can that be a fact? explain plz. both equals +1 but Idra has one more win


Or you can see it as "Idra has one more loss". Stop being biased.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
June 18 2011 22:49 GMT
#11357
Tomorrow's games are in 9 hrs for those wondering
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 18 2011 22:50 GMT
#11358
On June 19 2011 07:47 Dawski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:45 FairForever wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23

Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34

(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)


Wasn't Zerg imba at MLG? OMG clearly it's Toss imba!

Lol people keep pulling the race statistics....... such a small sample size. Of course no mention that MC/Naniwa have played all their games already, while Idra has played and so has Sen (Dimaga and Morrow too... that didn't go so well). Thorzain has only played 2 games so there terran #s might be higher tomorrow, as well... you had merz/Tarson/Naama/Cloud/Jimpo/Diestar who aren't ready for the big stage... all terran.


and no matter how much people try to tell you they are just doing statistics, people think its a balance whine


Because no matter how much people try to say they're just doing statistics, other people interpret the statistics incorrectly and start whining. That's already happened in this thread, it's better not to post such a post. I understand the logic because it is interesting, but it's just going to start the flaming...
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 18 2011 22:50 GMT
#11359
On June 19 2011 07:48 cosmo.6792 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23

Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34

(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)



I'm pretty sure that these statistics were skewed heavily by the fact that no Korean has played Terran in this tournament so far. Bomber will bolster those Terran stats tomorrow.


And, well, because (Spoilers!)

+ Show Spoiler +
SaSe, Naniwa and MC rolled their groups. That's most of those wins, lol.
Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 22:50:32
June 18 2011 22:50 GMT
#11360
As one that thinks Idra sucks I do think he should advance since he did beat grubby 2-0 also it would make the US fans happy
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