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On June 19 2011 07:39 toadyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not??????? idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now idra advances Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket. must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance IdrA 3-2 7-6 Grubby 3-2 6-5 6-5 is better than 7-6 imho 6 5 is better than 7 6 thats a fact lol, Grubby should advanced if its based on GAMES and not series, there will be no reason for a tiebreaker because Grubby has a better win %.
Stop acting like idiots all of you.
Since they have the same amount of points (9) and the same "goal" difference (+1) Idra advances due to beating Grubby in their match up.
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On June 19 2011 07:41 GwSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:40 Serpico wrote:On June 19 2011 07:29 Golgotha wrote:wtf. idra is not so hot right now. MC is rolling like a pro, Moon is doing great, Tyler is..., Huk is on a roll!!!!!!!!! On June 19 2011 07:29 namedplayer wrote:
man Moon is unbelievably bad. dunno how he keep getting invited. ??? how can you say that when he hasn't dropped a series yet? I guess all the players he beat just suck? think before you talk. Who has huk played? Tarson and Fury Or was that a rhetorical question
was not, I thought he would have played 3 series by now.
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On June 19 2011 07:34 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:31 AsianEcksDragon wrote:On June 19 2011 07:27 FairForever wrote:On June 19 2011 07:25 Gamegene wrote:
I have to give props to Tarson for fighting to the bitter end the last game.
It actually looked like he had the beginning of an impossible victory against Moon.
Then again Moon sucked. Lol Moon sucks... so Tarson is worse? So he's shit? Jeeze all this Tyler/Moon/Grubby hate today, it's so ridiculous. Grubby is not a progamer caliber yet. He's good enough to take games off progamers but still isn't at that level. He's like Vibe and PainUser who are also decent players but really has no hope of winning any tournaments. Tyler and Moon have great mechanics that would carry them far but seems to make the dumbest decisions in games and cause them to lose close games. I agree Moon has poor decision-making, but that doesn't mean he "sucks". Look at his foreign tournament performances despite his sometimes awkward control - he's still dominating foreign players out there. NASL auto-qualifier despite the Korea lag, 2nd at IEM WC this year, Top 8 MLG Columbus. If he can improve his unit control I think he could be a top Code A player and potentially be a decent Code S player... too bad he's not attempting to qualify.
I didn't say he sucks. I said that his mechanic and macro will bring him far and it has proven true in foreigner tournaments. He's clearly better than most TeamLiquid posters think but he's still a weaker Korean because he tilts when pressured. The same applies to Tyler in foreign tournaments.
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On June 19 2011 07:39 Clicker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not??????? idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now idra advances Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket. must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance IdrA 3-2 7-6 Grubby 3-2 6-5 6-5 is better than 7-6 imho what.
6/11 is a greater percentage than 7/13. But, Dreamhack does not use % as the metric for the tiebreak it seems, and it appears that IdrA is indeed advancing.
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On June 19 2011 07:41 Howl67 wrote:
IdrA is advancing, it said it right on the top of Day9's stream during the break.
Yes, that's what the DH official bracket also said, but then they changed it.
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On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not??????? idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now idra advances Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket. must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance IdrA 3-2 7-6 Grubby 3-2 6-5 6-5 is better than 7-6 imho
either way.. idra won head to head. overall he did better than grubby.
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On June 19 2011 07:39 toadyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not??????? idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now idra advances Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket. must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance IdrA 3-2 7-6 Grubby 3-2 6-5 6-5 is better than 7-6 imho 6 5 is better than 7 6 thats a fact lol, Grubby should advanced if its based on GAMES and not series, there will be no reason for a tiebreaker because Grubby has a better win %.
You're arguing that losing 0-2 is better than losing 1-2. That's what you're arguing. Which is why no one would do a tournament that way for a tiebreaker.
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On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23
Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34
(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)
Wow, foreigner Terrans need to step it up! It's weird how in Korea Terrans are dominating but in the foreigner scene Protoss and Zerg are owning.
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On June 19 2011 07:39 toadyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not??????? idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now idra advances Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket. must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance IdrA 3-2 7-6 Grubby 3-2 6-5 6-5 is better than 7-6 imho 6 5 is better than 7 6 thats a fact lol, Grubby should advanced if its based on GAMES and not series, there will be no reason for a tiebreaker because Grubby has a better win %.
lol? how can that be a fact? explain plz. both equals +1 but Idra has one more win
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For a Korean, Moon is very average, but he's still one of the best 10 players at Dreamhack.
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On June 19 2011 07:43 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not??????? idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now idra advances Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket. must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance IdrA 3-2 7-6 Grubby 3-2 6-5 6-5 is better than 7-6 imho either way.. idra won head to head. overall he did better than grubby.
There is really no discussion as Idra beat Grubby 2-0, why should he advance there is no argument for it... ????
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On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23
Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34
(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)
Terran wouldve done better if Nada and MKP were there T_T
MC Naniwa and Sase ripping it up for toss at DH
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On June 19 2011 07:43 AsianEcksDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:34 FairForever wrote:On June 19 2011 07:31 AsianEcksDragon wrote:On June 19 2011 07:27 FairForever wrote:On June 19 2011 07:25 Gamegene wrote:
I have to give props to Tarson for fighting to the bitter end the last game.
It actually looked like he had the beginning of an impossible victory against Moon.
Then again Moon sucked. Lol Moon sucks... so Tarson is worse? So he's shit? Jeeze all this Tyler/Moon/Grubby hate today, it's so ridiculous. Grubby is not a progamer caliber yet. He's good enough to take games off progamers but still isn't at that level. He's like Vibe and PainUser who are also decent players but really has no hope of winning any tournaments. Tyler and Moon have great mechanics that would carry them far but seems to make the dumbest decisions in games and cause them to lose close games. I agree Moon has poor decision-making, but that doesn't mean he "sucks". Look at his foreign tournament performances despite his sometimes awkward control - he's still dominating foreign players out there. NASL auto-qualifier despite the Korea lag, 2nd at IEM WC this year, Top 8 MLG Columbus. If he can improve his unit control I think he could be a top Code A player and potentially be a decent Code S player... too bad he's not attempting to qualify. I didn't say he sucks. I said that his mechanic and macro will bring him far and it has proven true in foreigner tournaments. He's clearly better than most TeamLiquid posters think but he's still a weaker Korean because he tilts when pressured. The same applies to Tyler in foreign tournaments.
Good thing he's owning the Korean tournaments.
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On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23
Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34
(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)
Wasn't Zerg imba at MLG? OMG clearly it's Toss imba!
Lol people keep pulling the race statistics....... such a small sample size. Of course no mention that MC/Naniwa have played all their games already, while Idra has played and so has Sen (Dimaga and Morrow too... that didn't go so well). Thorzain has only played 2 games so there terran #s might be higher tomorrow, as well... you had merz/Tarson/Naama/Cloud/Jimpo/Diestar who aren't ready for the big stage... all terran.
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MC will gain ALOT more fans after this Co-cast, im sure about that. All in all great day from Sweden, i enjoyed it very much.
Also another recommended game is Kas vs Naama G2 or G3 cant remember  .
SaSe played some dominating Protoss vs Kas aswell.
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On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23
Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34
(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)
Good job. That explains why the Protoss are on top all over the place. Big advantage in PvT at this tournament (could just simply be where the metagame is at the moment).
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On June 19 2011 07:41 lunchforthesky wrote:July vs Thorzain Game 1 July vs Thorzain Game 2 MC vs Sen game 1 MC vs Sen game 2 MC vs Naugrim game 3 Dimaga vs Socke game 2 (kind of stupid long but weird game all the same)
Kas v Naama was really good TvT though it does go on a long time.im forgetting them now there was a socke game with 19 void rays and mothership recalls if you arent a protoss hater 
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On June 19 2011 07:44 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23
Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34
(Not a some balance shit, just statistics) Wow, foreigner Terrans need to step it up! It's weird how in Korea Terrans are dominating but in the foreigner scene Protoss and Zerg are owning.
Probably shows that the game is pretty well balanced, the best players are just winning. Also WC3 players seem to love Protoss so it makes sense a European competition in SC2 would be dominated by Protoss.
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On June 19 2011 07:43 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:38 Maitolasi wrote:On June 19 2011 07:35 Enox wrote:On June 19 2011 07:32 cyclone25 wrote:On June 19 2011 07:30 iggyfisk wrote:On June 19 2011 07:28 Pipeline wrote:
Can anyone clarify if Idra advances or not??????? idra advances idra advances he wins every possible tiebreaker idra advances idra advances can this be clearer somehow, hopefully it's enough now idra advances Not clear enough. Explain this: http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162Grubby was recently put in 2nd place on DreamHacks's official bracket. must be a mistake on their end. Idra has a slightly better win ratio. he has a win more so he should advance IdrA 3-2 7-6 Grubby 3-2 6-5 6-5 is better than 7-6 imho either way.. idra won head to head. overall he did better than grubby.
Head to head would matter if they both had 6-5 or 7-6, etc.
They have different map score so the head to head doesn't decide who advance.
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On June 19 2011 07:44 MechKing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23
Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34
(Not a some balance shit, just statistics) Wow, foreigner Terrans need to step it up! It's weird how in Korea Terrans are dominating but in the foreigner scene Protoss and Zerg are owning.
Only reason terrans are owning in Korea is due to them being 90% of competitive scene.
There are like 20 very good terrans and like 2 protosses and 2 zergs.
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