EPTDHS2011 - Day 1 - Page 570
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:50 Yaotzin wrote: tbf still got white-ra and huk games to go which should bump toss stats some more. There just aren't a lot of top tier terrans at DH, whereas almost all the top tier tosses are there. In general Europe just have a much higher percentage of their top players are Protoss compared with Korea. If you think of the best EU players as (In no order): Naniwa Thorzain Hasu Obs Socke Kas White Ra Dimaga Morrow Mana Ret I guess people will argue that list but basically I'd say about 40% of the European players capable of getting out of the group stages in a tournament like Dreamhack are Protoss players, where as in Korea there's one top level Protoss in MC, a few decent ones in Alicia, Huk, San, Hongun and Anypro but only really MC capable of winning anything. As opposed to 3/4 Zergs and about 10 Terrans. It's nothing to do with balance, EU Players, especially WC3 players like Protoss. Most Koreans don't because Protoss has the least legends in Brood War so people were more likely to pick Terran or Zerg. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:52 Zane wrote: MKP would've probably rolled through DH with one hand tied behind his back. But then again Bomber can probably do that too. Not really, MKP has been losing alot lately, lost in the Stars war tournament, like first round of lg 3d tourney, didn't get to the finals either  | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:57 mordk wrote: Holy shit I'm just now listening to MC casting... so amazing!!... MC is truly an awesome nerd, he does all this crazy shit hahaha OHH OHH IMBA REPAIR OHH <3 | ||
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BaLoO-
France318 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:51 SuperStyle wrote: Stop acting like idiots all of you. Since they have the same amount of points (9) and the same "goal" difference (+1) Idra advances due to beating Grubby in their match up. Dont you people watch any professional sport at all, thats how it works in football or anything else. Huh ??? that's exactly what he said, Idra advances since he won the direct confrontation. He was just saying that Grubby's ratio was better than Idra's one, which is 100% right. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:53 Taf the Ghost wrote: Or you could just read the damn rules. http://master.dreamhack.se/DHS11/files/2011/06/DHS11_SC2_RULES.pdf It's also pretty obvious why a 7:6 player losing a spot to a 6:5 player would be a truly stupid way of doing tie-breaks. Read this closely: "Losing 0-2 is more valuable than losing 1-2". If you want a tournament that works that way, you're not going to have another, because that's a really stupid way of doing it. Why should I read your garbage logic closely? It is in no way relevant to what I posted. And if you start to read carefully you would suddenly realize that I never doubted the official rules in the way you describe nor do I want Grubby to advance - quite the contrary. @Maenander Exactly what I think for small groups in tournaments like this, only for leagues it should be different imo. | ||
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thepuppyassassin
900 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:57 lunchforthesky wrote: In general Europe just have a much higher percentage of their top players are Protoss compared with Korea. If you think of the best EU players as (In no order): Naniwa Thorzain Hasu Obs Socke Kas White Ra Dimaga Morrow Mana Ret I guess people will argue that list but basically I'd say about 40% of the European players capable of getting out of the group stages in a tournament like Dreamhack are Protoss players, where as in Korea there's one top level Protoss in MC, a few decent ones in Alicia, Huk, San, Hongun and Anypro but only really MC capable of winning anything. As opposed to 3/4 Zergs and about 10 Terrans. It's nothing to do with balance, EU Players, especially WC3 players like Protoss. Most Koreans don't because Protoss has the least legends in Brood War so people were more likely to pick Terran or Zerg. where is Sjow? He's European right?.. and he's awesome | ||
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dangerjoe
Denmark1866 Posts
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PigglyWinks
364 Posts
The auto-sort in the standings on that page gives priority to alphabetical order. G is before I. It's just a bug or lazyness. Idra has advanced, and that's all there is to it. | ||
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dubRa
2165 Posts
Anyone watching quake? http://www.justin.tv/dreamhackql#/w/1353935888 | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:57 lunchforthesky wrote: In general Europe just have a much higher percentage of their top players are Protoss compared with Korea. If you think of the best EU players as (In no order): Naniwa Thorzain Hasu Obs Socke Kas White Ra Dimaga Morrow Mana Ret I guess people will argue that list but basically I'd say about 40% of the European players capable of getting out of the group stages in a tournament like Dreamhack are Protoss players, where as in Korea there's one top level Protoss in MC, a few decent ones in Alicia, Huk, San, Hongun and Anypro but only really MC capable of winning anything. As opposed to 3/4 Zergs and about 10 Terrans. It's nothing to do with balance, EU Players, especially WC3 players like Protoss. Most Koreans don't because Protoss has the least legends in Brood War so people were more likely to pick Terran or Zerg. Kas/Brat_OK/sjow/strelok/cloud.. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:55 AsianEcksDragon wrote: They're leading the Grubby fanboys on for the lulz. TBH Grubby keeps getting all these invites just because of his WC3 success so it shouldn't be a shock if he advances over IdrA. | ||
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hallx
Pakistan163 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:41 lunchforthesky wrote: July vs Thorzain Game 1 July vs Thorzain Game 2 MC vs Sen game 1 MC vs Sen game 2 MC vs Naugrim game 3 Dimaga vs Socke game 2 (kind of stupid long but weird game all the same) Thank you | ||
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Tarot
Canada440 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:58 Olinim wrote: Not really, MKP has been losing alot lately, lost in the Stars war tournament, like first round of lg 3d tourney, didn't get to the finals either Moon does just fine at DH and he's not even in code A anymore. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
It wasn't meant to be an exhaustive or definative list, that wasn't the point read the post. Also Cloud is definitely not a top 10 EU player and Kas is on the list. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3721 Posts
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
There were other good games I'm sure, I just watched all of MC's games, all of July's and then the odd other game here or there. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On June 19 2011 08:01 Tarot wrote: Moon does just fine at DH and he's not even in code A anymore. Rolling through DH also implies rolling through MC, since he is there you know | ||
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GuardianEU
Netherlands488 Posts
On June 19 2011 07:53 toadyy wrote: Because this a professional sport, + Show Spoiler + herepdperpephpeprpedphpepr People watch other people play a game for money, for entertainment... sounds like a professional sport to me. | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On June 19 2011 08:00 Zane wrote: TBH Grubby keeps getting all these invites just because of his WC3 success so it shouldn't be a shock if he advances over IdrA. You realise how dumb that sounds when he beat Kas and Naama, so he is clearly worthy of an invite, right? | ||
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