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Kagge
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden59 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 23:11:01
June 18 2011 23:10 GMT
#11421
Group A
P Dignitas NaNiwa 5-0 10-1
Z Liquid Ret 3-2 7-4

T Imba FXO Strelok 3-2 7-6
T SK Jimpo 2-3 5-7
P Liquid Tyler 1-4 4-8
Z Cyber Nation MoMan 1-4 2-7

Group B
P Alternate Attax Socke 4-1 9-3
T RoX.KiS BRAT_OK 4-1 9-5

Z mTw DIMAGA 3-2 6-5
P Fnatic NightEnD 2-3 6-8
Z Mouz Morrow 2-3 5-6
T Millenium DieStar 0-5 2-10



Group C
P MYM SaSe 5-0 10-1
Z EG IdrA 3-2 7-6

P Grubby 3-2 6-5
T Dignitas merz 2-3 4-7
T Virus Naama 1-4 5-7
T Empire Kas 1-4 3-8

Group D
P oGs MC 5-0 10-2
Z Fnatic Sen 4-1 8-3

T MYM ClouD 3-2 6-6
P Millenium Adelscott 2-3 6-7
P Fnatic TT1 1-4 4-8
Z GG.net Naugrim 0-5 2-10


Group E
P Liquid Huk 2-0 4-0
Z WeMade Fox Moon 2-0 4-1
Z Millenium LaLush 2-0 4-1
T RG FuRy 0-2 2-4
P Dignitas Bischu 0-2 1-4
T Millenium Tarson 0-2 1-4


Group F
Z Startale July 2-0 4-2
T Mouz Thorzain 1-1 3-2
P Mouz Hasuobs 1-1 3-2
Z EG Machine 1-1 3-2
T Dignitas SjoW 1-1 2-3
Z srs Sushi 0-2 0-4


Day 1
Race statics
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23

Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34

Advancing Races
P 4 (+1, 1 Protoss splitting the 2nd spot in group F)
Z 3 (+1/2, 2 Zergs splitting the 2nd spot in group E, 1 Zerg in group E)
T 1 (+1, 2 Terrans splitting the 2nd spot in group F)


Reposting day 1 for thoose who missed it, cant get into the site. (Bold advances)
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 23:12:13
June 18 2011 23:10 GMT
#11422
On June 19 2011 08:08 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:03 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:02 Olinim wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:01 Tarot wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:58 Olinim wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:52 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:50 Yaotzin wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:48 PigglyWinks wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:45 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:42 Kagge wrote:
Race statics for DAY 1
Protoss Vs Terran 34-15
Zerg Vs Protoss 20-25
Terran Vs Zerg 19-23

Total Wins:
Protoss 59
Zerg 43
Terran 34

(Not a some balance shit, just statistics)


Good job. That explains why the Protoss are on top all over the place. Big advantage in PvT at this tournament (could just simply be where the metagame is at the moment).


Or it could be down to the two best Protoss (MC, Naniwa) having played 10 games and the two best Terran (Bomber, Thorzain) having played 2 games.

tbf still got white-ra and huk games to go which should bump toss stats some more.

There just aren't a lot of top tier terrans at DH, whereas almost all the top tier tosses are there.

MKP would've probably rolled through DH with one hand tied behind his back. But then again Bomber can probably do that too.

Not really, MKP has been losing alot lately, lost in the Stars war tournament, like first round of lg 3d tourney, didn't get to the finals either

Moon does just fine at DH and he's not even in code A anymore.

Rolling through DH also implies rolling through MC, since he is there you know

Yep, that's why I said MKP. Because not only was he supposed to be at DH, but his TvP is insanely strong while PvT seems to be MC's weakness.


PvT isn't really MC's weakness anymore, he had a brief slide once Terran's figured out how to hold Warp Gate all in's around January to March but he was knocked out of GSL May by Polt who has one of the worlds best TvP (and did some pretty all in-ish play). Since then he's beaten Thorzain, Select, Kas, Ryung and Bomber in a LAN enviroment.

MC has the best PvX in the world aside from maybe PvP with Inca being slighted better. His only weakness is that no one can win every single game, certainly he's not weak in any specific match up.

I wasn't trying to imply that MC sucks against terrans. It was more like, if I had to choose someone who has a fair chance to beat MC it would probably be a terran, either MKP or Polt.

On June 19 2011 08:10 IPA wrote:
Can someone answer this for me -- why did MorroW play Terran? He has seemingly been playing so well lately as Z. Did he explain this choice? Gracias.

He doesn't really like ZvZ so he plays T against zergs in the tournaments that allow race picking.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 18 2011 23:10 GMT
#11423
Can someone answer this for me -- why did MorroW play Terran? He has seemingly been playing so well lately as Z. Did he explain this choice? Gracias.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Shichibukai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden355 Posts
June 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#11424
The qualifiers from the byoc won't be decided for another couple of hours huh, I envy them!

"Grats, you did well in the brackets, now go get 4 hours of sleep before you go up against WHITE-RA! (or Mana, whoever is a scarier opponent)" ^_^
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#11425
On June 19 2011 08:02 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:00 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:55 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:55 cyclone25 wrote:
Dreamhack corrected the Lalush - Fury score on their bracket, but they did no change to Grubby's 2nd place.

I'm pretty sure they are aware that they have Grubby on 2nd place, so I doubt it's a mistake.


They're leading the Grubby fanboys on for the lulz.

TBH Grubby keeps getting all these invites just because of his WC3 success so it shouldn't be a shock if he advances over IdrA.


You realise how dumb that sounds when he beat Kas and Naama, so he is clearly worthy of an invite, right?


Grubby actually played really well today. He's improved quite a lot since the start of the NASL and all of those problems. And he might just be a better "at LAN" player than most others, which could very well help. (Having a few WCG Golds probably plays a part)

Grubby isn't tip-top yet, but he could definitely get there. I think he could use a team & coach though. His macro slips when he gets into Micro-mode. That's his biggest flaw from what I could see.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
June 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#11426
Anyone know where the July vs. Thorzain VODs are? Can't find them here http://blip.tv/day9tv
VicTimEyes
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands99 Posts
June 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#11427
On June 19 2011 08:10 IPA wrote:
Can someone answer this for me -- why did MorroW play Terran? He has seemingly been playing so well lately as Z. Did he explain this choice? Gracias.


He's not confident in his ZvZ, so opted to play as Terran vs. Zerg opponents.
PigglyWinks
Profile Joined May 2011
364 Posts
June 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#11428
On June 19 2011 08:05 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:59 PigglyWinks wrote:
Grubby isn't advancing guys.

The auto-sort in the standings on that page gives priority to alphabetical order. G is before I. It's just a bug or lazyness. Idra has advanced, and that's all there is to it.


That's not true. It's "EG IdrA" on their page, not "IdrA".


That's true, but the priority is still all wrong in the standings. They are not sorted by point difference, so maybe they are just listed arbitraily. For example, Thorzain is 5th in his group with a 1-1(3-2p) record. He should clearly be above Sjow who is 4th with a 1-1(2-3p) record and who already lost 0-2 to Thorzain. I can guarantee that Idra has advanced.
Kagge
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden59 Posts
June 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#11429
On June 19 2011 08:10 IPA wrote:
Can someone answer this for me -- why did MorroW play Terran? He has seemingly been playing so well lately as Z. Did he explain this choice? Gracias.


He doesnt like ZvZ at all and doesnt feel comfortable. So he racepicks instead
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
June 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#11430
On June 19 2011 07:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Jinro and Huk are screwed tomorrow

"oGsMC 장민철
thx a lot all person thx good birthday but huk & jinro didnt congratulate me fucking bm in korea hims dead"


lol. MC so baller. the cast with TB made my day
BeSt <3 | HoeJJa | Leta :: team Polt
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 23:13:23
June 18 2011 23:12 GMT
#11431
On June 19 2011 08:03 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:02 Oscatron wrote:
where is the page of brackets and results?

the one in OP doesnt work


http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

interesting, anybody wanna enlighten me on why grubby advances above idra? i just woke up T_T~
edit: nevermind, read thread
Kagge
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden59 Posts
June 18 2011 23:13 GMT
#11432
On June 19 2011 08:12 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:03 kheldorin wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:02 Oscatron wrote:
where is the page of brackets and results?

the one in OP doesnt work


http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

interesting, anybody wanna enlighten me on why grubby advances above idra? i just woke up T_T~


He has +1 match won but the most important I guess is that Idra won 2-0 against grubby.
toadyy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom179 Posts
June 18 2011 23:14 GMT
#11433
On June 19 2011 08:07 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:04 Qaz wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:02 bennyaus wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:00 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:55 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:55 cyclone25 wrote:
Dreamhack corrected the Lalush - Fury score on their bracket, but they did no change to Grubby's 2nd place.

I'm pretty sure they are aware that they have Grubby on 2nd place, so I doubt it's a mistake.


They're leading the Grubby fanboys on for the lulz.

TBH Grubby keeps getting all these invites just because of his WC3 success so it shouldn't be a shock if he advances over IdrA.


You realise how dumb that sounds when he beat Kas and Naama, so he is clearly worthy of an invite, right?


For sure, the fact that he went 3-2 in his group has nothing to do with it.

He did good, fair enough. But he got the invite before going 3-2 in his group and his results prior to that weren't exactly...impressive.

At his last lan he took 3rd and beat alot of good players like TLO and morrow 3 0, HATER GONNA HATE situation going down right here. Grubby performs on LAN he is a vet. If you are guna start hating on grubby I mean why the fuck would you invite Tyler or TT1 or even fucking Jinro rofl? Neither have "performed" recently does that mean they will never be good again or wont improve?
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
June 18 2011 23:14 GMT
#11434
On June 19 2011 08:12 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:03 kheldorin wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:02 Oscatron wrote:
where is the page of brackets and results?

the one in OP doesnt work


http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

interesting, anybody wanna enlighten me on why grubby advances above idra? i just woke up T_T~
edit: nevermind, read thread


He doesnt, mistake by them.

Since they have the same amount of points (9) and the same "goal" difference (+1) Idra advances due to beating Grubby in their match up.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 18 2011 23:14 GMT
#11435
On June 19 2011 08:12 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:03 kheldorin wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:02 Oscatron wrote:
where is the page of brackets and results?

the one in OP doesnt work


http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

interesting, anybody wanna enlighten me on why grubby advances above idra? i just woke up T_T~
edit: nevermind, read thread

They were tied and they had to do a coin-flip, but IdrA rage-quitted because Tails is imba.
Qaz
Profile Joined August 2010
84 Posts
June 18 2011 23:15 GMT
#11436
On June 19 2011 08:07 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:04 Qaz wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:02 bennyaus wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:00 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:55 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:55 cyclone25 wrote:
Dreamhack corrected the Lalush - Fury score on their bracket, but they did no change to Grubby's 2nd place.

I'm pretty sure they are aware that they have Grubby on 2nd place, so I doubt it's a mistake.


They're leading the Grubby fanboys on for the lulz.

TBH Grubby keeps getting all these invites just because of his WC3 success so it shouldn't be a shock if he advances over IdrA.


You realise how dumb that sounds when he beat Kas and Naama, so he is clearly worthy of an invite, right?


For sure, the fact that he went 3-2 in his group has nothing to do with it.

He did good, fair enough. But he got the invite before going 3-2 in his group and his results prior to that weren't exactly...impressive.

I suppose that's true. Although, he did show some very nice performance against Rainbow in NASL.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 18 2011 23:15 GMT
#11437
On June 19 2011 08:07 toadyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 07:59 PigglyWinks wrote:
Grubby isn't advancing guys.

The auto-sort in the standings on that page gives priority to alphabetical order. G is before I. It's just a bug or lazyness. Idra has advanced, and that's all there is to it.


Oh what explains why RoX.KiS BRAT_OK is ahead of Alternate Attax Socke both with a score of 4 1.
Its fucking magic or?


Because the team tag is added after the Alphabetical sort. Socke is actually #1 in that group. BratOK vs Socke. (You can also guess this from the spacing for the blank team names)
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 23:16:29
June 18 2011 23:16 GMT
#11438
On June 19 2011 08:14 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:12 billyX333 wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:03 kheldorin wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:02 Oscatron wrote:
where is the page of brackets and results?

the one in OP doesnt work


http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21106162

interesting, anybody wanna enlighten me on why grubby advances above idra? i just woke up T_T~
edit: nevermind, read thread

They were tied and they had to do a coin-flip, but IdrA rage-quitted because Tails is imba.


Don't you mean heads is imba since the heads side has slightly more metal than the tails side of the coin X_X

Tails hwaiting!!!!
Kagge
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden59 Posts
June 18 2011 23:16 GMT
#11439
On June 19 2011 08:14 toadyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 08:07 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:04 Qaz wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:02 bennyaus wrote:
On June 19 2011 08:00 Zane wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:55 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On June 19 2011 07:55 cyclone25 wrote:
Dreamhack corrected the Lalush - Fury score on their bracket, but they did no change to Grubby's 2nd place.

I'm pretty sure they are aware that they have Grubby on 2nd place, so I doubt it's a mistake.


They're leading the Grubby fanboys on for the lulz.

TBH Grubby keeps getting all these invites just because of his WC3 success so it shouldn't be a shock if he advances over IdrA.


You realise how dumb that sounds when he beat Kas and Naama, so he is clearly worthy of an invite, right?


For sure, the fact that he went 3-2 in his group has nothing to do with it.

He did good, fair enough. But he got the invite before going 3-2 in his group and his results prior to that weren't exactly...impressive.

At his last lan he took 3rd and beat alot of good players like TLO and morrow 3 0, HATER GONNA HATE situation going down right here. Grubby performs on LAN he is a vet. If you are guna start hating on grubby I mean why the fuck would you invite Tyler or TT1 or even fucking Jinro rofl? Neither have "performed" recently does that mean they will never be good again or wont improve?


tyler hasnt performed as of late so while I see your opinion there I dont see how you can compoare Jinro at all. He has been in Korea and have not been attending anything but DH invitational and that really doesnt messure his skill level at this time.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
June 18 2011 23:16 GMT
#11440
Both ThorZaIN and MorroW said in interviews from DH that they wouldn't be attending more MLGs =[
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