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We will be moderating harshly in this thread. Think twice before you post. Things we are watching for: image macros, balance whining, "eagles", player bashing etc. We encourage civil and reasoned critique of our moderation - please post it in the website feedback forum.

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Trawler
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden382 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21921
On June 06 2011 07:38 teko wrote:
I hope MMA wins his Code S pass through MLG.


This


User was warned for this post
YodaGoneMad
Profile Joined April 2011
United States58 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21922
On June 06 2011 07:15 jj33 wrote:
yodagonemad,

you're a racist just say it and you're a moron.

you sound like those people back in the day when they complained about having black people play with the white people in football or basketball.

you're pathetic, anybody who wants segregation of competition in this day and age is a moron.


I don't want segregation, if they wanna pay their own way I welcome the competition. I don't feel like we should pay them to come kill our scene.
That's how I roll!
CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21923
On June 06 2011 07:36 SoSexy wrote:
And they say zerg is the most mobile race. A nerf for dropships is seriously needed


I dont see why High level zergs dont double-up on CRUCIAL buildings at far expos.

No reason to have the entire game riding on a single structure.

oh, and inb4 ban

User was warned for this post
^ Probably a Troll Post
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21924
On June 06 2011 07:37 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:36 youngminii wrote:
i think you guys are praising mma a little too much

if it was any other highish level zerg i think mma would have lost

he was caught with ALL of his tanks unsieged TWICE, but losira completely screwed up those engagements

i mean his late game drops were amazing but he was pretty much in a safe position to do those drops

it's another game where one player fucks up rather than one player playing like a boss



MMA certainly has a lot of weaknesses I'll agree on that.

I don't get it; i think he displayed a lot more strengths than weaknesses in that game. He went for a really risky opener and managed to come back from being busted and having lings in his main and nat a few times. Sure he didn't show bonjwa level play, but appreciate the beauty of what he just accomplished sniping spawning pools and baneling nests while pushing into Losira's expansions was really clutch play and the multi tasking he displayed was pretty sexy
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Fleebenworth
Profile Joined April 2011
463 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21925
This MLG has been great on nearly every front, but I think we can all agree that the next one could use slightly less generic, shitty rock/metal with obnoxious drum rolls and power chords. I'm not asking them to play Shpongle, but honestly any variation would be a relief.
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21926
Anyone saying that we're giving MMA too much pressure clearly hasn't seen him play GSTL.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21927
On June 06 2011 07:38 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:36 youngminii wrote:
i think you guys are praising mma a little too much

if it was any other highish level zerg i think mma would have lost

he was caught with ALL of his tanks unsieged TWICE, but losira completely screwed up those engagements

i mean his late game drops were amazing but he was pretty much in a safe position to do those drops

it's another game where one player fucks up rather than one player playing like a boss


In all games if someone loses they make some mistakes... All pros make mistakes... If they didn't make any mistakes then the outcome will decide the truly superior of the 3 sc races.

YOur just being negative here.



dont listen to @youngminii

SlayerSMMA is the next Iloveoov
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21928
whats the name of the track playing right now?
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21929
On June 06 2011 07:38 setzer wrote:
MMA = best TvZ in the world?


more like losira = worst TvZ in the world
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 22:40:16
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21930
On June 06 2011 07:38 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:36 youngminii wrote:
i think you guys are praising mma a little too much

if it was any other highish level zerg i think mma would have lost

he was caught with ALL of his tanks unsieged TWICE, but losira completely screwed up those engagements

i mean his late game drops were amazing but he was pretty much in a safe position to do those drops

it's another game where one player fucks up rather than one player playing like a boss


In all games if someone loses they make some mistakes... All pros make mistakes... If they didn't make any mistakes then the outcome will decide the truly superior of the 3 sc races.

YOur just being negative here.

fair enough, to each his own

i just personally think that mma's play wasn't outstanding in any way, since he was way ahead since losira botched that attack

but the drop in losira's main was absolutely genius

edit: i do think mma is one of the best terrans in the world and could very easily win this tournament, i'm just saying in THIS ONE GAME he didn't do that well
lalala
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21931
On June 06 2011 07:37 MrProb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:35 SenorChang wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:33 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:13 Seldon wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:09 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Won't happen, if Koreans start coming to major western tournaments then western e-sports will die. They will just dominate everything, the scene will get stagnant and boring, and that will be it.


That is a terrible attitude. Every time we have an event with Koreans like this the foreigners get better, give it time. Also having Koreans owning is good for the general narrative, it will be more awesome when foreigners start winning.

I'm actually happy that Koreans are owning, it means the game is good and practice matters.


Never happened with Starcraft 1, I don't think it will happen here. Korea is already ahead of the rest of the world, and it will just get worse. We shall see, but I put all my money on the US and EU scenes drying up if Koreans continue to be invited and dominate western tournaments.

Boohoo, can't compete so give up right?

It's a practice and drive mentality and if the gap isn't closed then so be it.


i recommend you not to talk to that guy with loser attitude xD

I dont know aparantly he was around since the beginning when there where many SC tourny's with 10s of thousands of viewers in the west and then the Koreans killed it (some people are stupid)
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Nik0
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay460 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21932
On June 06 2011 07:37 windsupernova wrote:
I kinda wanted Losira to advance but man, MMA outclassed him in this game.

Oh well I hope this doesn't cause a lot of Zerg whine

That game result was not because any imbalance, but because Losira suicided a lot of units and stayed ling/bling too long
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21933
On June 06 2011 07:29 Munchkin wrote:
Since I don't watch Korean SC2 in the middle of the night I have never heard of any of them. They don't stream, they don't do twitter, they are never on any of the SC2 shows, western viewers have no attachment to these players.

No, wrong. Most western viewers like to watch the best players play. Just because you don't care or haven't heard of the best players in the world doesn't mean the rest of us haven't. But yes I agree MLG is for foreigners Koreans should join the open bracket like everybody else.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21934
On June 06 2011 07:36 Cibron wrote:
jawdropping play by MMA. I think I counted 3 drop positions, new expansion and tumor hunting at the same time. Whats his APM!?

I would expect it to be over 9000.

+ Show Spoiler +
The replays will be uploaded so you can check later, I'm sure he's got 250-300 average.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21935
On June 06 2011 07:39 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:37 StarStruck wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:36 youngminii wrote:
i think you guys are praising mma a little too much

if it was any other highish level zerg i think mma would have lost

he was caught with ALL of his tanks unsieged TWICE, but losira completely screwed up those engagements

i mean his late game drops were amazing but he was pretty much in a safe position to do those drops

it's another game where one player fucks up rather than one player playing like a boss



MMA certainly has a lot of weaknesses I'll agree on that.

I don't get it; i think he displayed a lot more strengths than weaknesses in that game. He went for a really risky opener and managed to come back from being busted and having lings in his main and nat a few times. Sure he didn't show bonjwa level play, but appreciate the beauty of what he just accomplished sniping spawning pools and baneling nests while pushing into Losira's expansions was really clutch play and the multi tasking he displayed was pretty sexy

slingky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21936
MMA you beast! Nice last game vs Losira to lock in a finals game at MLG!! GOO MMA
keep on keeping on
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21937
On June 06 2011 07:38 teko wrote:
I hope MMA wins his Code S pass through MLG.


how do people still not understand, there will be no code s passes at this mlg
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21938
MMA made some fatal flaws, his tvz is good but not best in the world. Multiple times MMA forgot to lift up his depots, misposition seige tanks, etc. Losira kept throwing away units like 5 banelings randomly into the natural wtf?
Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21939
On June 06 2011 07:35 Stenstyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:30 jj33 wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:22 Ryka wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:20 jj33 wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:18 hmmm... wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:14 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:04 mordk wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:00 Genome852 wrote:
MMA did "wall in" with the CC at first. But he made the mistake of not realizing that the CC has a rounded model, even if the grid is a square... so lings just ran by the sides of the CC.

On June 06 2011 06:59 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Man, this thread is slowing down fast since all the westerners are eliminated. Guess I wasn't the only one that doesn't care about the results of a bunch of random koreans.

What? Are you implying games aren't worth watching just because of the players' nationality? They aren't "random Koreans" either. So stupid....


Don't reply to these comments.. people watch games for different reasons. I do because I love starcraft, which means I'll be happy to watch koreans at the top if they are truly the best. Other people watch for the hype, and they feel more excited when their homies play. I understand the feelings of many people, although I feel that shouldn't make them miss quality starcraft games.



There is no shortage of quality games, what makes MLG and other tournaments special to me is cheering for personalities I know. Just having random amazing players, that don't speak the language, that are not involved in the western scene (don't stream, don't go on shows, don't contribute) I just don't care about their results.

A korean wins, which one? I certainly don't care, in fact, koreans will take home all the big money, because they are top 3.


bitter foreigner much?

you're a fucking racist.



he absolutely is.



It's not racist to only be interested in watching players you know.

I don't care about watching barcelona vs real madrid in the champions league, but as soon as a british team's involved I will watch!



No he is racist. If Koreans were considered a "white race" he'd have no problem with it.

His whining comes down to racist under the guise of all his other bullshit he's spouting.

Oh and also players he knows? this is a global game, anybody who follows sc2, knows alot of korean players. please.



It's not racist, I care much less for the Koreans, not because they are Koreans but because they don't participate in any tournaments I watch. This means that I neither love not hate them and thus their games become boring to watch, no emotions at all from my side.

I am unfortunately not a big enough Starcraft fan to watch games just because the player who plays them is good, I'm mostly watching for excitement.


You Sir should get a GSL ticket.

Quite frankly I love seeing a foreigner do well just because I root for the underdogs but if you are going to watch just 1 tournament, the GSL/GSTL is both the highest level and one of (if not the) best organized/casted/supported.

It is a little unfortunate there isn't just one foreigner left to cheer for but given the level these players have displayed both in knocking out the top competition and now against each other I really don't think they deserve any bashing whatsoever.

As an aside it will be interesting to see how FXO improves when they move to Korea, after all it's one of the big reasons behind Idra being so good. And we all know Sheth is a much more level headed person with some serious talent ... waiting to see how that develops.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21940
On June 06 2011 07:39 Trawler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:38 teko wrote:
I hope MMA wins his Code S pass through MLG.


This

Too bad it won't be this MLG.
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