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PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21941
On June 06 2011 07:39 Trawler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:38 teko wrote:
I hope MMA wins his Code S pass through MLG.


This

Doesn't happen. Code S is next MLG onward.
the farm ends here
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21942
On June 06 2011 07:37 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:36 StarStruck wrote:

On June 06 2011 07:33 cheesemaster wrote:
so losira plays mc? and then the winner of that plays mma?


Yes.


And this might be the first MLG without an extended series finals!


Idra-Select at DC.
fartdra
Profile Joined June 2011
92 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21943
On June 06 2011 07:39 Fleebenworth wrote:
This MLG has been great on nearly every front, but I think we can all agree that the next one could use slightly less generic, shitty rock/metal with obnoxious drum rolls and power chords. I'm not asking them to play Shpongle, but honestly any variation would be a relief.


yea it's like the producers don't understand there is new music out now it's not 1990 anymore
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21944
On June 06 2011 07:38 SpecFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:35 happyness wrote:
IF I HAVE TO HEAR THAT FUCKING SONG BY THAT AWFUL BAND IN THAT STUPID BING COMMERCIAL I'M GOING TO KILL A BABY




Agreed man agreeed

WEEEE CANT BE DEFEATEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

WEE YOOO WEE YOO WE YOO WE YOOOO WE YAAA!


GOGOGOGO MMA GET THAT CODE S SPOT!

question: please answer, is MMA guarenteed CODE S SLOT??? He is GUARANTEED SECOND PLACE and BOTH MC and LOSIRA are in Code S.


You answered your own question...
Ryhn
Profile Joined February 2010
United States509 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21945
On June 06 2011 07:35 Stenstyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:30 jj33 wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:22 Ryka wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:20 jj33 wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:18 hmmm... wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:14 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:04 mordk wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:00 Genome852 wrote:
MMA did "wall in" with the CC at first. But he made the mistake of not realizing that the CC has a rounded model, even if the grid is a square... so lings just ran by the sides of the CC.

On June 06 2011 06:59 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Man, this thread is slowing down fast since all the westerners are eliminated. Guess I wasn't the only one that doesn't care about the results of a bunch of random koreans.

What? Are you implying games aren't worth watching just because of the players' nationality? They aren't "random Koreans" either. So stupid....


Don't reply to these comments.. people watch games for different reasons. I do because I love starcraft, which means I'll be happy to watch koreans at the top if they are truly the best. Other people watch for the hype, and they feel more excited when their homies play. I understand the feelings of many people, although I feel that shouldn't make them miss quality starcraft games.



There is no shortage of quality games, what makes MLG and other tournaments special to me is cheering for personalities I know. Just having random amazing players, that don't speak the language, that are not involved in the western scene (don't stream, don't go on shows, don't contribute) I just don't care about their results.

A korean wins, which one? I certainly don't care, in fact, koreans will take home all the big money, because they are top 3.


bitter foreigner much?

you're a fucking racist.



he absolutely is.



It's not racist to only be interested in watching players you know.

I don't care about watching barcelona vs real madrid in the champions league, but as soon as a british team's involved I will watch!



No he is racist. If Koreans were considered a "white race" he'd have no problem with it.

His whining comes down to racist under the guise of all his other bullshit he's spouting.

Oh and also players he knows? this is a global game, anybody who follows sc2, knows alot of korean players. please.



It's not racist, I care much less for the Koreans, not because they are Koreans but because they don't participate in any tournaments I watch. This means that I neither love not hate them and thus their games become boring to watch, no emotions at all from my side.

I am unfortunately not a big enough Starcraft fan to watch games just because the player who plays them is good, I'm mostly watching for excitement.



Wait, wait, wait. Sten.

Did you just say that the series between MMA and LosirA was boring?

And you call yourself a fan of Starcraft. That last game was amazingly exciting.
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Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
June 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#21946
On June 06 2011 07:35 Stenstyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:30 jj33 wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:22 Ryka wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:20 jj33 wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:18 hmmm... wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:14 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:04 mordk wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:00 Genome852 wrote:
MMA did "wall in" with the CC at first. But he made the mistake of not realizing that the CC has a rounded model, even if the grid is a square... so lings just ran by the sides of the CC.

On June 06 2011 06:59 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Man, this thread is slowing down fast since all the westerners are eliminated. Guess I wasn't the only one that doesn't care about the results of a bunch of random koreans.

What? Are you implying games aren't worth watching just because of the players' nationality? They aren't "random Koreans" either. So stupid....


Don't reply to these comments.. people watch games for different reasons. I do because I love starcraft, which means I'll be happy to watch koreans at the top if they are truly the best. Other people watch for the hype, and they feel more excited when their homies play. I understand the feelings of many people, although I feel that shouldn't make them miss quality starcraft games.



There is no shortage of quality games, what makes MLG and other tournaments special to me is cheering for personalities I know. Just having random amazing players, that don't speak the language, that are not involved in the western scene (don't stream, don't go on shows, don't contribute) I just don't care about their results.

A korean wins, which one? I certainly don't care, in fact, koreans will take home all the big money, because they are top 3.


bitter foreigner much?

you're a fucking racist.



he absolutely is.



It's not racist to only be interested in watching players you know.

I don't care about watching barcelona vs real madrid in the champions league, but as soon as a british team's involved I will watch!



No he is racist. If Koreans were considered a "white race" he'd have no problem with it.

His whining comes down to racist under the guise of all his other bullshit he's spouting.

Oh and also players he knows? this is a global game, anybody who follows sc2, knows alot of korean players. please.



It's not racist, I care much less for the Koreans, not because they are Koreans but because they don't participate in any tournaments I watch. This means that I neither love not hate them and thus their games become boring to watch, no emotions at all from my side.

I am unfortunately not a big enough Starcraft fan to watch games just because the player who plays them is good, I'm mostly watching for excitement.


Psst...they're playing in a tournament you're watching right now.

Out of curiosity, what do you watch? IEM? Dreamhack? NASL? Stars Wars? Because there are Koreans in all of those. Clearly, you watch major tournaments and not just weeklies/small regionals, so then how have you missed all of the Koreans in western tournaments?
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21947
K, Knowledge bomb about to be dropped.

Code A spots are ONLY for foreigners.
There is no Code S spot for MLG Columbus it will start at the next MLG.
Code S spots can be acquired by anyone winning the MLG no matter origin.



Sad foreigners are sad.

Koreans are better, we've had as much time with Sc2 as Korea yet foreigners are slacking and doing other shit like casting etc... focus on your game ffs why are you a progamer in the first place?
Don't whine about race when we've seen time and time again any race can win a tournament, if you didn't win and you're a pro player it's your fault, Sc2 isn't at the level yet where people are playing perfect.

Code B is much tougher than the Open bracket so Code A is valued higher than Championship pool not because of prize money but because of how good you need to be to compete there. And you don't even have to win Code A to get a chance at Code S where the most money/fame/glory is obtained (you can still stay in the GOM house I'm sure). Winning Ro32 in Code S is like same money as 4th place MLG. You can still participate in online tournaments, we've seen how well the Koreans do in NASL for example.
You're a pro player sacrifices need to be made, no sacrifice no reward.
GSL goes out of their way to schedule a break when big international LANs occur so you can attend those as well.
Koreans seems to want to practice with foreigners from reading DoAs post on the subject.

And once again when Koreans come to "our" events to take "our" money how are you gonna live of progaming now mr foreigners?!?


Also go FXO you're all nerd ballers for taking that step.
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21948
On June 06 2011 07:36 youngminii wrote:
i think you guys are praising mma a little too much

if it was any other highish level zerg i think mma would have lost

he was caught with ALL of his tanks unsieged TWICE, but losira completely screwed up those engagements

i mean his late game drops were amazing but he was pretty much in a safe position to do those drops

it's another game where one player fucks up rather than one player playing like a boss

mmm... MMA has beaten july in this MLG, beaten sheth and previously beaten DRG, July in TL's and now taken out losira, I don't think his tvz skill is a fluke lol
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
StreetHeat
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States225 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21949
My feelings of "I don't like Metal but I love Slayer" mirror how I feel about MMA...
" I don't like watching Terran but I love MMA!"
Hope he takes the tourney <3
“If you want to learn to swim jump into the water. On dry land no frame of mind is ever going to help you” -Bruce Lee
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21950
On June 06 2011 07:37 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:22 Flowjo wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:14 shockaslim wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:11 Adreme wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:10 youngminii wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:10 Beyonder wrote:
Although not as dramatic, we're truly seeing 3 of the top players MMA and MC especially. I really hope MMA wins though, I want him in code S! (winner gets it regardless of where hes from)

i can't believe this



NO the winner does NOT get code S. If a mod could add that to top it would eliminate a lot of confusion. Also the Koreans I believe are not eligable for the spot but that one im less sure of.



Koreans aren't eligible for the CODE A spots. However, the CODE S spots are fair game for the winner.


no, bro just no


yes bro, just yes



I second the idea of adding this to the top or at least the OP. They only win code A from this one and Koreans arn't eligible for those anyway.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21951
On June 06 2011 07:38 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:15 SKC wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:12 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:03 BrahCJ wrote:
Just woke up and it looks like I've missed some of the best games!

A couple of things I want to note.
MajOr did an incredible job at this event.
Sheth and Slush are on the brink of breaking through that "next level"
MLG have done an amazing job. So much so, that I have enough faith to already buy tickets to the next 2 events. Even an act of god didn't stop them.

Now for the bombshell.
I don't like the fact that Koreans have come through and taken *all* (top 3) the money. Yes, they provided the "best" play, and are incredibly solid/strong/gosu, however to have "The greater race" fly in for 3 days, walk away with $12,000, and leave isn't good for the foreigner scene.
As is obvious, we have a pretty amazing audience now-days, but I don't believe we're giving the best foreigners the best chance at making this game viable. And if the best can't win an event like this, what is left for those at the brink of deciding whether or not they're going to dedicate their time/money/life to gaming, or to a 9-5 job.

Just like I buy the items with the "Made in Australia" tag over those made in China, I feel we should support the NA scene more than we did at MLG Columbus. Either that, or make it equally viable for foreigners to go to Korea, as it is for Korea to come to NA
(3 days for $5k, opposed to 1 month for $1500 in code A)

Sincearly,
Concerned fan.


QUOTED FOR TRUTH!

This should be on the front page of TL. If Koreans come into the western tournaments and take all the money then the western scene is dead. Players like Naniwa and Thorzain could not afford to attend these tournaments if they had not won previous ones. In the future those types of players simply won't show up, because it will be a given that the Koreans will win.


I found it kinda funny how he talks about growing the NA scene and you talk about 2 europeans. How far is it okay to fly to steal your money? And since he quoted the first prize, $5k, why didn't he mention the other first prize, Code S?



Everyone besides the Koreans paid their own way. The Koreans get a free invite to get some free money and kill the western scene. There is a huge difference. If a Korean wants to pay to come to an event and he wins I would support that and cheer him on.

Also, as has been discussed, CODE A is the only thing available this tourny, and most all the pro's agree that Code A is a joke and they wouldn't even bother accepting.


dude stop posting ur pathetic attitude
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Parnass
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany145 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21952
On June 06 2011 07:38 Fubi wrote:
MMA plays like a random diamond level player when he's not pressured, but when he gets pressured, it seems like he literally goes super saiyan mode and plays like a God.


lol seriously, I guess that's what you call pulling a reverse-Idra!
F u r u y a
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil173 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21953
On June 06 2011 07:38 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:36 BlueSpace wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:34 Telcontar wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:33 Jyvblamo wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:33 XiGua wrote:
PEEING ALL OVER MY KEYBOARD!!!! NERDCHILLS!!

What.

I guess he's out of semen.

Oo



There is so ... so much wrong with that

i lol'ed
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21954
Why does the score for MC vs. IdrA say 4 - 2? Did they play a Bo7?
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21955
im gonna fall asleep, i can't make it much more

10:40 am

-_-
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
GullyFoyle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States103 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21956
I'm still leaving the ads on in the spirit of supporting esports, buy you'd think there could be a little more variety... I'm pretty sure it switches over to a negative effect.
He was one hundred and seventy days dying and not yet dead...
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21957
On June 06 2011 07:35 Stenstyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:30 jj33 wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:22 Ryka wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:20 jj33 wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:18 hmmm... wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:14 YodaGoneMad wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:04 mordk wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:00 Genome852 wrote:
MMA did "wall in" with the CC at first. But he made the mistake of not realizing that the CC has a rounded model, even if the grid is a square... so lings just ran by the sides of the CC.

On June 06 2011 06:59 YodaGoneMad wrote:
Man, this thread is slowing down fast since all the westerners are eliminated. Guess I wasn't the only one that doesn't care about the results of a bunch of random koreans.

What? Are you implying games aren't worth watching just because of the players' nationality? They aren't "random Koreans" either. So stupid....


Don't reply to these comments.. people watch games for different reasons. I do because I love starcraft, which means I'll be happy to watch koreans at the top if they are truly the best. Other people watch for the hype, and they feel more excited when their homies play. I understand the feelings of many people, although I feel that shouldn't make them miss quality starcraft games.



There is no shortage of quality games, what makes MLG and other tournaments special to me is cheering for personalities I know. Just having random amazing players, that don't speak the language, that are not involved in the western scene (don't stream, don't go on shows, don't contribute) I just don't care about their results.

A korean wins, which one? I certainly don't care, in fact, koreans will take home all the big money, because they are top 3.


bitter foreigner much?

you're a fucking racist.



he absolutely is.



It's not racist to only be interested in watching players you know.

I don't care about watching barcelona vs real madrid in the champions league, but as soon as a british team's involved I will watch!



No he is racist. If Koreans were considered a "white race" he'd have no problem with it.

His whining comes down to racist under the guise of all his other bullshit he's spouting.

Oh and also players he knows? this is a global game, anybody who follows sc2, knows alot of korean players. please.



It's not racist, I care much less for the Koreans, not because they are Koreans but because they don't participate in any tournaments I watch. This means that I neither love not hate them and thus their games become boring to watch, no emotions at all from my side.

I am unfortunately not a big enough Starcraft fan to watch games just because the player who plays them is good, I'm mostly watching for excitement.


Nope, you're racist. You claim you only want to watch exciting games, yet you prefer to watch crappy white diamond players play over the best in the world (koreans)? What is it that you don't like about koreans then? You don't have to watch if you don't want. I'll sit here and enjoy the highest level of play possible.
The Notorious Winkles
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21958
On June 06 2011 07:38 xilaratu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:35 happyness wrote:
IF I HAVE TO HEAR THAT FUCKING SONG BY THAT AWFUL BAND IN THAT STUPID BING COMMERCIAL I'M GOING TO KILL A BABY




This is my biggest complaint with MLG <_< If they ditched the stupid bing commercial, I'd be inclined to watch with ads.


Haha i dont have bing commercials, I get the one where the basketball game lags and that hot chick shows up :D
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21959
On June 06 2011 07:36 javy925 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:35 MooMooMugi wrote:
On June 06 2011 07:33 Darpa wrote:
is it me or is losiras decision making really awful

Do you know how hard it is to deal with drops in your main, siege tanks on your 3rd, marines sniping your 4th and still be able to LOGICALLY make the BEST decisions all game long?


the key mistake was losing that mass of banelings mostly to siege tanks. After the threat of banelings disappeared, MMA went in a sniped the pool; it was all downhill from there.

Yeah I understand that but I was just mentioning that even the best player can make a simple game-breaking mistake like that and lose because hes under constant pressure of simultaneous harassment.
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
June 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#21960
On June 06 2011 07:37 ccHaZaRd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 07:36 Trickstaloki wrote:
Amazing how MMA always just comes back after being behind most of the game.


i dont see how he was behind after defending baneling bust on 3 orbital then shut down the hird base mining for awhile and then sniped 4th base while getting tank count up, losiras supply was in drones and lings

42 drones on two bases against 19 SCVs. You need more than 3 OC to make up for that. He was definitly behind, although probably not as much as the numbers suggests.
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