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On December 11 2011 15:03 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MVp's late game multitasking is second to none in SC2. In the second game he never pushed (except the pressure at the 12 minute mark) He simply picked xigua apart from drops/nukes/defending with snipe. Amazing display of skill
Since MVP didn´t need to push, your attention should be directed at the zerg. MVP may be the best terran, but his opponent clearly wasn´t the best zerg.
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On December 11 2011 15:01 trinxified wrote:
Ultralisks need to be immune to snipe...
Obviously, Ultralisks being sensitive to Snipe was the reason XiGua lost! People like you are really hopeless.
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On December 11 2011 15:02 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 Jehct wrote:
Anyone else think the finals being BO3 is kinda ridiculous? Doesn't make much sense when you consider the prize pool =/ Yeah, a finals should never be lower than Bo5, and Bo7 is the preferred for anything over 10k prize pool IMO Xigua would've lost 0-4 anyways, better save himself and his country from the embarassment.
I feel proud considering my countryman xigua has got at least a 2nd place lols..
but seriously...there's no shame in losing to MVP as a zerg .. congrats to both players
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On December 11 2011 15:04 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:03 TheKK wrote:On December 11 2011 15:02 DOUDOU wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 trinxified wrote:
Ultralisks need to be immune to snipe... i feel just putting a cooldown to snipe is the fairest nerf, no need to make some units immune Whoa, cooldown on snipe sounds like the best idea ever actually. Hope blizzard considers this. /endbalancediscussion This is a good idea. That, or increase energy cost
Why does this need to be changed? Can't just admit that mvp is the superior player? (Which he obviously is)
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On December 11 2011 15:04 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:04 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On December 11 2011 15:02 R!! wrote:On December 11 2011 15:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 Jehct wrote:
Anyone else think the finals being BO3 is kinda ridiculous? Doesn't make much sense when you consider the prize pool =/ Yeah, a finals should never be lower than Bo5, and Bo7 is the preferred for anything over 10k prize pool IMO Xigua would've lost 0-4 anyways, better save himself and his country from the embarassment. Why would his country be embarrassed? That's the way it works when china is involved, ask them yourself.
Well I'm glad we have our TL expert on foreign affairs educating everyone.
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On December 11 2011 15:02 Seeker wrote:Do not use that word please
I will because it's a fact. MVP is the best player in the world and highly favored in every single match he plays. And this has been the case for a year now.
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On December 11 2011 15:05 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:03 Seeker wrote:On December 11 2011 15:03 Zzoram wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 StarStruck wrote:
here comes the b word again. Why not? MVP isn't just the best player in the world, he's damn consistent. He either wins or places very highly in every tournament he enters. He's also been doing this for a year, across the world. Not for us to decide though Who actually decides it though?
The secret council
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On December 11 2011 15:04 Luppy1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 14:58 darkest44 wrote:
Xigua really didn't play "brilliant game" lets be honest... what did he do at all that was brilliant? All game he killed 1 CC and like 1 drop ship lol. MVP was toying with him. He did well. I mean, he couldnt attack into the terran because his entire army would get sniped (Point proven by what xigua tried to do at the end) At the same time, his ultralisk army cant respond to cheap and effective drops being done all over the place. Do tell me what xigua could have done better. This guy won everyone else 2-0 all the way through. Why are you trying to make it sound like he's bad or something.
The problem is because he had poor showing in IEM and against MVP, everyone and their facebook friend is ready to completely shit on a young player in need of further development. I'm glad that he won't hear most of the stuff he's gonna receive from NA/EU observers.
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On December 11 2011 15:05 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:03 Seeker wrote:On December 11 2011 15:03 Zzoram wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 StarStruck wrote:
here comes the b word again. Why not? MVP isn't just the best player in the world, he's damn consistent. He either wins or places very highly in every tournament he enters. He's also been doing this for a year, across the world. Not for us to decide though Who actually decides it though?
The council does of course. The next scheduled meeting is the weekend of Jan 7.
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On December 11 2011 15:06 chosenkerrigan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:02 R!! wrote:On December 11 2011 15:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 Jehct wrote:
Anyone else think the finals being BO3 is kinda ridiculous? Doesn't make much sense when you consider the prize pool =/ Yeah, a finals should never be lower than Bo5, and Bo7 is the preferred for anything over 10k prize pool IMO Xigua would've lost 0-4 anyways, better save himself and his country from the embarassment. I feel proud considering my countryman xigua has got at least a 2nd place lols.. but seriously...there's no shame in losing to MVP as a zerg .. congrats to both players
As a Zerg? WTF. MVP TvT is better than his TvZ.
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On December 11 2011 15:05 lFrost wrote:
pretty clear that mvp could have ended the game a lot sooner if he had kept that bunker/tank contain at xigua's nat but he left for no good reason. probably just to prolong it to an entertaining game and humiliate xigua.
He didn't want to get flanked by the pack of lings that ran past a minute or so earlier.
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On December 11 2011 15:05 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 14:59 aviator116 wrote:On December 11 2011 14:58 darkest44 wrote:
Xigua really didn't play "brilliant game" lets be honest... what did he do at all that was brilliant? All game he killed 1 CC and like 1 drop ship lol. MVP was toying with him. YOU play against MVP and tell me how it goes That's irrelevant. Anyone who ever argues with the "you couldn't do better" idea is always wrong on so many levels. Just because you aren't able to sing for instance, does that mean you can't critique music that sounds terrible? Xigua played horribly (in both games) and was completely outplayed. MVP had no reason (unless the minimap was too blurry for me) to pull back from his triple bunker/triple seige tank push, he had the game won at the point. There were only ~9 lings across the side of the map and he already had 1 tank and a bunker at his expansion to defend. The amount of banes/lings Xigua used to try his 2nd attempt at busting the push would have died if MVP left his units at the Zerg natural. Afterwards, MVP was really just toying with Xigua who couldn't handle his drop harass at all - why else would you bother to make 3 nukes (which requires that many academies) and 25+ cloaked ghosts? Fun game to watch but Xigua was nowhere close.
I don't think that is what he was saying. Yesterday I finally got around to watch Starcraft: Year One documentary, and qxc said that he would often look at the GSL and think "that guy is terrible" but when he got to play him in person he would think "how does this guy ever lose". The point he was making was not that you or I could not beat MVP either, but rather that playing MVP is probably insanely nerve wracking.
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On December 11 2011 15:05 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:01 trinxified wrote:
Ultralisks need to be immune to snipe... Obviously, Ultralisks being sensitive to Snipe was the reason XiGua lost! People like you are really hopeless.
The best balance change would be to nerf Mvp so that his hands start hurting more and more the longer the game goes on.
Oh wait, that already happens. (carpal tunnel)
Mvp is absurd.
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On December 11 2011 15:07 Mainland wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:05 redviper wrote:On December 11 2011 15:03 Seeker wrote:On December 11 2011 15:03 Zzoram wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 StarStruck wrote:
here comes the b word again. Why not? MVP isn't just the best player in the world, he's damn consistent. He either wins or places very highly in every tournament he enters. He's also been doing this for a year, across the world. Not for us to decide though Who actually decides it though? The council does of course. The next scheduled meeting is the weekend of Jan 7.
It's up to the Korean netizens if I'm not mistaken.
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xigua isn't a bad player by all means. Though, any player MVP beats will always look bad after losing.
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On December 11 2011 14:58 EtherealDeath wrote:
That was a highly uninspiring game from Xigua. I don't know what his attention was being paid to. Let nukes land, no army pressure going on, fail to use nydus canal as well. Wtf was his attention on? He wasn't even creep spreading. He reminds me of an inferior Nestea, in that it seems his game knowledge far outstrips his mediocre mechanics.
Well, you try to deal with 2 nukes and 2 drops at the same time having a perfect army split and lets see how you fair.
He only looks completely scrubby because he is against the best player in the world clearly playing his best. It tends to happen. MvP was constantly dropping the entire game as well, dispite mutas being out. Xigua sends mutas to harass his base, suddenly 2 drops show up on his front porch with perfect micro on the marines that continues for the entire game. Not easy to deal with unless you are also a top world class zerg.
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On December 11 2011 15:07 David451 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:06 chosenkerrigan wrote:On December 11 2011 15:02 R!! wrote:On December 11 2011 15:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 Jehct wrote:
Anyone else think the finals being BO3 is kinda ridiculous? Doesn't make much sense when you consider the prize pool =/ Yeah, a finals should never be lower than Bo5, and Bo7 is the preferred for anything over 10k prize pool IMO Xigua would've lost 0-4 anyways, better save himself and his country from the embarassment. I feel proud considering my countryman xigua has got at least a 2nd place lols.. but seriously...there's no shame in losing to MVP as a zerg .. congrats to both players As a Zerg? WTF. MVP TvT is better than his TvZ.
Does it matter? He is obviously very good in every match-up.
vT: 40-11 (78.43%)
vZ: 42-12 (77.78%)
vP: 28-13 (68.29%
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On December 11 2011 15:05 darkness wrote:
Wait for BW pro gamers to fully switch to SC2 and adapt, then throw the Bonjwa stuff.
We have had Nada, Boxer, and July all show mild success in SC2, but none have ever won anything major. MVP on the other hand, an ex-BW player, has been dominating for nearly a year. I can see why people would throw around the B word when describing him.
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On December 11 2011 15:06 Spiner wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 15:04 trinxified wrote:On December 11 2011 15:03 TheKK wrote:On December 11 2011 15:02 DOUDOU wrote:On December 11 2011 15:01 trinxified wrote:
Ultralisks need to be immune to snipe... i feel just putting a cooldown to snipe is the fairest nerf, no need to make some units immune Whoa, cooldown on snipe sounds like the best idea ever actually. Hope blizzard considers this. /endbalancediscussion This is a good idea. That, or increase energy cost Why does this need to be changed? Can't just admit that mvp is the superior player? (Which he obviously is)
imo if they were to nerf snipe, I would like it to be a channeling spell where the ghost has to be still for ~1 sec before it shoots.
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I think mvp cared a lot about winning wcg actually as a matter of pride for Korea more so then the money. The other guy did pretty good, but honestly how to you prepare to beat mvp? He has no real flaws he is just top tier at everything and only really loses if he does not scout something or makes a rare mistake. His build orders are unpredictable too.
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