• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:41
CEST 17:41
KST 00:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event4Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced63
StarCraft 2
General
Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025)
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups StarCraft player reflex TE scores BW General Discussion Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 555 users

WCG 2011 Grand Finals - Page 424

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 422 423 424 425 426 436 Next
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8461
He may not be a b (yet) but he's the best player of 2011. There's no doubting that.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8462
On December 11 2011 14:59 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 14:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 11 2011 14:57 Fionn wrote:
Now MVP has to play Blizz Cup in 24 hours.


I highly doubt he cares about the result of that. I think WCG was really important to him and the koreans


Of course he cares.. His obvious goal is to get as much as money/wins before the hand surgery/treatment. I agree with the rest though.

I'm just saying he probably prepared very little for that event compared to everyone else. His expression after he won this was probably the happiest he's looked after any title.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8463
Screw Polt. Blizzard should give MVP 3 spots in the Blizzard Cup. Better yet just make it a tournament between the rest of the players and the winner gets to face MVP in the finals.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8464
On December 11 2011 15:03 TheKK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:02 DOUDOU wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:01 trinxified wrote:
Ultralisks need to be immune to snipe...

i feel just putting a cooldown to snipe is the fairest nerf, no need to make some units immune

Whoa, cooldown on snipe sounds like the best idea ever actually. Hope blizzard considers this. /endbalancediscussion


This is a good idea. That, or increase energy cost
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8465
On December 11 2011 15:03 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:02 Seeker wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:00 David451 wrote:
Haypro #1 Banjo, but MVP #1 Bonjwa


Do not use that word please


Oh Jeez, you guys do know people wouldn't do this if you didn't make such a huge deal everytime someone says bonjwa right?


And we wouldn't have to do this if those other people hadn't started it in the first place :/
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8466
On December 11 2011 15:00 Disastorm wrote:
wcg fail, a shit load of people just had black screen during finals which were also only a bo3.

that shitload of people must be American. I have absolutely no trouble in watching streams ( opening three at a time). It gets even better with the HD OGN link
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 06:05:02
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8467
Wrong thread zzz
#TeamBuLba
ItchyLegs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada369 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8468
oh come now, MVP is obviously SC2's bonjwa. Stephano will be the next one. Why get upset over it? The inevitability of it all seems so transparent
Luppy1
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore177 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8469
On December 11 2011 14:58 darkest44 wrote:
Xigua really didn't play "brilliant game" lets be honest... what did he do at all that was brilliant? All game he killed 1 CC and like 1 drop ship lol. MVP was toying with him.


He did well. I mean, he couldnt attack into the terran because his entire army would get sniped (Point proven by what xigua tried to do at the end) At the same time, his ultralisk army cant respond to cheap and effective drops being done all over the place. Do tell me what xigua could have done better. This guy won everyone else 2-0 all the way through. Why are you trying to make it sound like he's bad or something.
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8470
On December 11 2011 15:04 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:02 R!! wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:01 Jehct wrote:
Anyone else think the finals being BO3 is kinda ridiculous? Doesn't make much sense when you consider the prize pool =/


Yeah, a finals should never be lower than Bo5, and Bo7 is the preferred for anything over 10k prize pool IMO

Xigua would've lost 0-4 anyways, better save himself and his country from the embarassment.


Why would his country be embarrassed?

That's the way it works when china is involved, ask them yourself.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
December 11 2011 06:04 GMT
#8471
On December 11 2011 15:03 Zenislev wrote:
MVP... first SC2 bonjwa :O


If you didn't live through the era of a bonjwa during BW, please don't use that word.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8472
On December 11 2011 14:59 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 14:58 darkest44 wrote:
Xigua really didn't play "brilliant game" lets be honest... what did he do at all that was brilliant? All game he killed 1 CC and like 1 drop ship lol. MVP was toying with him.

YOU play against MVP and tell me how it goes

That's irrelevant. Anyone who ever argues with the "you couldn't do better" idea is always wrong on so many levels. Just because you aren't able to sing for instance, does that mean you can't critique music that sounds terrible?

Xigua played horribly (in both games) and was completely outplayed. MVP had no reason (unless the minimap was too blurry for me) to pull back from his triple bunker/triple seige tank push, he had the game won at the point. There were only ~9 lings across the side of the map and he already had 1 tank and a bunker at his expansion to defend. The amount of banes/lings Xigua used to try his 2nd attempt at busting the push would have died if MVP left his units at the Zerg natural.

Afterwards, MVP was really just toying with Xigua who couldn't handle his drop harass at all - why else would you bother to make 3 nukes (which requires that many academies) and 25+ cloaked ghosts? Fun game to watch but Xigua was nowhere close.
the farm ends here
lFrost
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States295 Posts
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8473
pretty clear that mvp could have ended the game a lot sooner if he had kept that bunker/tank contain at xigua's nat but he left for no good reason. probably just to prolong it to an entertaining game and humiliate xigua.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8474
Wait for BW pro gamers to fully switch to SC2 and adapt, then throw the Bonjwa stuff.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8475
That's why I consider him a top player.

He needs to be more dominant for longer and plus it's a different game. I would start using a different title if he manages to keep this up, but somehow I doubt that.

HotS and LotV will change the landscape and more players are coming into the fray.
tallyhohugo
Profile Joined August 2010
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 06:06:00
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8476
On December 11 2011 15:04 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:02 R!! wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:02 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:01 Jehct wrote:
Anyone else think the finals being BO3 is kinda ridiculous? Doesn't make much sense when you consider the prize pool =/


Yeah, a finals should never be lower than Bo5, and Bo7 is the preferred for anything over 10k prize pool IMO

Xigua would've lost 0-4 anyways, better save himself and his country from the embarassment.


Why would his country be embarrassed? Didn't realize 2nd place at WCG is an embarrassment now. Think of how Idra/Huk/MKP/Supernova must feel right now. They may as well commit seppoku.


china no like losing

EDIT: well. to be fair they really thought he had a good chance but i think those games showed a gulf in quality.
MVP MC Sen DRG Nestea BoxeR NaDa HerO Stephano Sheth PEWPEWPEWPOWER
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8477
On December 11 2011 15:03 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:03 Zzoram wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:01 StarStruck wrote:
here comes the b word again.


Why not?

MVP isn't just the best player in the world, he's damn consistent. He either wins or places very highly in every tournament he enters. He's also been doing this for a year, across the world.


Not for us to decide though


So who then? The Xel'Naga?

MVP is the best and most consistent player in the world, with the most big tournament wins and most prize money won in the world, for a year solid now.

His only losses have been close games in the semi-finals or finals.
Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8478
MVP BONJWA!!!

User was warned for this post
~Terran For Life~
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8479
On December 11 2011 15:03 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:03 Zzoram wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:01 StarStruck wrote:
here comes the b word again.


Why not?

MVP isn't just the best player in the world, he's damn consistent. He either wins or places very highly in every tournament he enters. He's also been doing this for a year, across the world.


Not for us to decide though


Who actually decides it though?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#8480
On December 11 2011 15:04 garlicface wrote:
Wrong thread zzz


Even though you edited, i just hope they aren't bringing them on tomorrow. Isn't tomorrows episode going to be the drunk episode?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Prev 1 422 423 424 425 426 436 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Group Stage Day 1
WardiTV959
uThermal643
SteadfastSC315
TKL 221
IndyStarCraft 135
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
uThermal 594
SteadfastSC 315
TKL 210
IndyStarCraft 135
Livibee 105
ForJumy 39
trigger 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 40958
Rain 7142
Bisu 3562
Calm 2552
Sea 1707
ggaemo 1568
Mong 901
Soulkey 640
ZerO 569
BeSt 539
[ Show more ]
Barracks 325
hero 296
Snow 292
Soma 249
Mini 225
actioN 174
sSak 154
sorry 143
Larva 141
Zeus 124
Dewaltoss 121
Sharp 83
JYJ67
Killer 51
Sexy 47
Sea.KH 31
Shine 29
[sc1f]eonzerg 27
Sacsri 23
soO 21
Aegong 19
yabsab 17
IntoTheRainbow 11
JulyZerg 10
Terrorterran 10
scan(afreeca) 8
sas.Sziky 7
ivOry 7
Dota 2
Gorgc6153
qojqva3789
syndereN349
420jenkins115
League of Legends
Trikslyr27
Counter-Strike
fl0m2021
Foxcn501
flusha260
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor136
Other Games
gofns6301
Beastyqt578
Lowko426
RotterdaM235
XaKoH 108
KnowMe97
QueenE95
ArmadaUGS92
Fuzer 73
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV45
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 83
• davetesta27
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix10
• Michael_bg 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV627
League of Legends
• Nemesis3695
• Jankos1441
Other Games
• Shiphtur53
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
10h 20m
RSL Revival
18h 20m
SC Evo League
20h 20m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
23h 20m
CSO Cup
1d
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 18h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 23h
Wardi Open
2 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.