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Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
December 10 2011 13:28 GMT
#7561
On December 10 2011 22:27 stonetalon wrote:
i watched game 1 of kas vs vmvp and then had to go somewhere......so when is the finals gonna be? cant find i t anywhere :-S


Finals and 3rd place playoff for every game exceot WC3 are tomorow
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 13:31 GMT
#7562
On December 10 2011 22:13 blae000 wrote:
I've had a hard time keeping up with this because of time zones etc... Haven't been able to watch a single match T_T Does anyone know where I cant find results from the supermatches?


You can check out Gosugamers.net under their gosubet section, but I will give you the results.

Snute > F91 2-1
Cyto > Cobo 2-1 in 3 hillarious matches because both players played bad, but Cobo honestly looked like an amatuer and only won game 2 because Cyto was not prepared for mass dts running into his base, Game 3 was especially funny because Cobo early expanded to a 3rd base and Cyto did nothing to punish it but Cobo's macro and decision making was so bad that he never really got near the supply of Cyto and was simply steamrolled in the one big fight,
MVP > Sen 2-1 and both players played pretty badly, although Sen looked really tired from all the traveling and continued the poor play he displayed in day 1. I think the 3rd place finishes might be getting to him,
and finally ToD vs Enderr I doubt was played because Enderr never showed up, and I am not sure if they scheduled a different match or what was their resolution to this.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 13:47:45
December 10 2011 13:45 GMT
#7563
Tod played Darkforce instead.

Snute vs F91 is here: http://www.gomtv.net/2011wcg/vod/66688/?set=1&lang=

Followed by Cyto vs Cobo.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 13:46:40
December 10 2011 13:46 GMT
#7564
Believe Xigua gets in anyway. I heard them mention it would go to second place if MVP won it.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
December 10 2011 13:50 GMT
#7565
Can someone explain me what did ToD do to get 1-5 ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 13:56:17
December 10 2011 13:50 GMT
#7566
On December 10 2011 21:32 Presidenten wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted, but this is a really good interview with (Z)Titan

http://www.rakaka.se/?newsID=18309



Thanks for the link.
He's a cool guy.

(Your TLPD-link is wrong though.)

On December 10 2011 22:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Can someone explain me what did ToD do to get 1-5 ?



Rumours says he went 1-2 and then left, thinking he was out.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
December 10 2011 13:52 GMT
#7567
On December 10 2011 22:46 kslghost wrote:
Believe Xigua gets in anyway. I heard them mention it would go to second place if MVP won it.

Nop. If mvp wins polt gets in the blizz cup.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
December 10 2011 13:57 GMT
#7568
On December 10 2011 22:50 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 21:32 Presidenten wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted, but this is a really good interview with (Z)Titan

http://www.rakaka.se/?newsID=18309



Thanks for the link.
He's a cool guy.

(Your TLPD-link is wrong though.)

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 22:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Can someone explain me what did ToD do to get 1-5 ?



Rumours says he went 1-2 and then left, thinking he was out.

He left after losing to BlinG, while being 1-3, thus eliminated.
WriterMaru
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
December 10 2011 14:00 GMT
#7569
On December 10 2011 21:59 Thezzphai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 21:34 razy wrote:
On December 10 2011 21:20 MayorITC wrote:
From the MVP interview:

"I heard SuperNoVa started the game with a disadvantage, SuperNoVa went for a safe build every time while his opponent went for a risky economical build so won against SuperNoVa."

So primarily a build order loss from the way MVP describes it.


orly. I saw the second game. It was 1 gate expo into 3 gate while supernova went for 1 rax-gas with concussive + reaper opening into expo. Korean killed just 2 probes was pushed back and finished off of 3 gates cause he was late to throw bunker at his natural and couldn't handle a simple pressure.

Cut ur korean bias out -_-

I thought it was common knowledge that 1 gate expo is a freewin vs reaper expand...
+ Show Spoiler +
No, I'm not serious.


well, it was more like marine-2x marauders-reaper, but ye, obviously BO win.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
December 10 2011 14:02 GMT
#7570
is the kas vs mvp series over? liquipedia says 1:0, but I can't find a stream anywhere
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
December 10 2011 14:03 GMT
#7571
On December 10 2011 23:02 Tofugrinder wrote:
is the kas vs mvp series over? liquipedia says 1:0, but I can't find a stream anywhere

It's over, MVP won 2-0.

Vods are up on gomtv but its quite onesided.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
December 10 2011 14:07 GMT
#7572
On December 10 2011 23:03 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 23:02 Tofugrinder wrote:
is the kas vs mvp series over? liquipedia says 1:0, but I can't find a stream anywhere

It's over, MVP won 2-0.

Vods are up on gomtv but its quite onesided.

ok, thanx for the info!
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 14:11 GMT
#7573
On December 10 2011 23:03 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 23:02 Tofugrinder wrote:
is the kas vs mvp series over? liquipedia says 1:0, but I can't find a stream anywhere

It's over, MVP won 2-0.

Vods are up on gomtv but its quite onesided.


Game 1 was one sided, but game 2 was actually quite good and honestly the only reason why it looked one sided at the end was the fact that Kas' attack was a bad decision, but you can't blame him for not knowing that he wasn't really behind because MVP did a lot of damage with his Marauder bunker rush followed by cloak banshies and hellions. The fact that Kas didn't scout it coming until it was on his doorstep and yet he was able to hold it off and pull even was incredibly impressive, but of course knowing when your ahead and when your behind is probably really hard we just take it for granted because we see the food counts and the vision of both players at all times.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
December 10 2011 14:11 GMT
#7574
On December 10 2011 22:57 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 22:50 TheBanana wrote:
On December 10 2011 21:32 Presidenten wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted, but this is a really good interview with (Z)Titan

http://www.rakaka.se/?newsID=18309



Thanks for the link.
He's a cool guy.

(Your TLPD-link is wrong though.)

On December 10 2011 22:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Can someone explain me what did ToD do to get 1-5 ?



Rumours says he went 1-2 and then left, thinking he was out.

He left after losing to BlinG, while being 1-3, thus eliminated.


Allright then, rumours aren't always the most accurate source of information.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Suohhen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States59 Posts
December 10 2011 14:20 GMT
#7575
On December 10 2011 23:11 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 22:57 Poopi wrote:
On December 10 2011 22:50 TheBanana wrote:
On December 10 2011 21:32 Presidenten wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted, but this is a really good interview with (Z)Titan

http://www.rakaka.se/?newsID=18309



Thanks for the link.
He's a cool guy.

(Your TLPD-link is wrong though.)

On December 10 2011 22:50 WhiteDog wrote:
Can someone explain me what did ToD do to get 1-5 ?



Rumours says he went 1-2 and then left, thinking he was out.

He left after losing to BlinG, while being 1-3, thus eliminated.


Allright then, rumours aren't always the most accurate source of information.


I don't think he means rumors so much as the casters of the other games mentioned such but I am not sure any of them ever said it for sure. Though the fact that Tastosis and Ries (the guy running the off-stream) mentioned it gives credence to the fact that it is probably true. This just seems like an epidemic of this tournament that there is very poor communication about what is going on and what is going to happen when and on what stream besides their mapping out time windows for certain games and the Off-stream thread having an outlay for the games that Ries wanted to cast and would try to do if everything worked out.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 10 2011 14:27 GMT
#7576
jeez kas 2-0 mkp and titan 2-0 supernova.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
December 10 2011 14:29 GMT
#7577
is there anywhere where I can find vods or replays from the groupstages? I specifically wanted to watch Xei vs Supernova, I don't know for sure, but I don't think it did get streamed
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
December 10 2011 14:29 GMT
#7578
How were the BlinG vs MVP games?
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
December 10 2011 14:35 GMT
#7579
On December 10 2011 23:29 Tidus Mino wrote:
How were the BlinG vs MVP games?


MVP's TvP games are usually not any good.

Honestly, while his TvT is pretty much the only TvT that I watch, and his TvZ is amazing, there are probably 15 Terrans out there who play more entertaining and better TvP's.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 10 2011 14:36 GMT
#7580
On December 10 2011 23:11 Suohhen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 23:03 Derez wrote:
On December 10 2011 23:02 Tofugrinder wrote:
is the kas vs mvp series over? liquipedia says 1:0, but I can't find a stream anywhere

It's over, MVP won 2-0.

Vods are up on gomtv but its quite onesided.


Game 1 was one sided, but game 2 was actually quite good and honestly the only reason why it looked one sided at the end was the fact that Kas' attack was a bad decision, but you can't blame him for not knowing that he wasn't really behind because MVP did a lot of damage with his Marauder bunker rush followed by cloak banshies and hellions. The fact that Kas didn't scout it coming until it was on his doorstep and yet he was able to hold it off and pull even was incredibly impressive, but of course knowing when your ahead and when your behind is probably really hard we just take it for granted because we see the food counts and the vision of both players at all times.


Huh?

MVP was a bit ahead. Maybe not a big a lead you're talking of, but MVP was ahead with greater and more cost efficient supply and a third base running up faster. And if MVP has a lead, there's no way you can out-macro the guy...
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