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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 05:21:56
December 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#6521
On December 10 2011 14:18 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:14 J1.au wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:07 LittLeD wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:06 J1.au wrote:
Can't take WC3 seriously with Orc the way it is. It's a shame.

......are you freaking serious?

Yes. Orc is the most boring race in WC3. It's just the same players doing the same strategies all the time.

Grubby used Far Seer a fair amount and won with it, but its true that Lyn sticks to what he is good at and I don't blame him.TH000 and Remind were dominating the scene not too long ago, stop whing about orc in general, ud tears are acceptable but that's it.


Sky vs. Lyn has never been that good for Sky. Sky's a great player but he's not that aggressive when he needs to be, typically preferring to do the equivalent of macro. Infi on the other hand is great vs. Lyn because he is so aggressive, but he's not here, so Lyn took it.

Top WC 3 competition is really about a handful of players who are basically always playing against each other (because the external scene is so limited), and who each have their respective strengths and weaknesses. Lyn's greatest weakness has been vs. Infi and vs. Fly, and since he took out Fly in a close series I was thinking that he had an advantage against Sky, and so he did.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
December 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#6522
On December 10 2011 14:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:16 Dexington wrote:
So either Polt, Kas, Titan or XiGua make the Blizzard Cup.

Honestly, I think Polt is the worst one there right now.

Polt was code S last season. What were any of those guys doing besides losing before even making it to a ro8 in foreign tournaments?



Practising boss skills.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
December 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#6523
On December 10 2011 14:09 chatuka wrote:
I don't see Artosis and Day 9 going bat s333 over Idra and Huk.



You must be new here.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
December 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#6524
On December 10 2011 14:16 Dexington wrote:
So either Polt, Kas, Titan or XiGua make the Blizzard Cup.

Honestly, I think Polt is the worst one there right now.


No. Polt is the best one there...
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
December 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#6525
are the semifinals tonight? The image or whatever in the OP doesn't load for me.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#6526
nooo snuute. you were supposed to reach the semis.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
December 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#6527
On December 10 2011 14:13 chenchen wrote:
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On December 10 2011 14:09 chatuka wrote:
it's that woman is going ape. I mean sky could be just as great of a guy as lyn.. it's just because she wraps herself in that flag.
so she's biased as hell.As well she is a professional that is paid money to be serious about casting a tournament. Highschool popularity contests are so immature in a global competition. I don't see Artosis and Day 9 going bat s333 over Idra and Huk.


It's great lyn is doing well, but i would also be happy for sky since he worked so hard to get where he is today. hopefully the woman will get a lesson from here superiors about profesionalism.


Actually Day9 and Tastosis are GR
EATLY GREATLY biased toward foreigners whenever they cast foreigner vs Korean games, always picking at moments to say that the foreigner is ahead or adding in "that was a lot closer than it looked" when the Korean destroys. Not to mention the tidbits at the beginning about how oh so good the foreigner is . . .

I've seen Day9 and *especially Tastosis get very excited over foreigners playing against Koreans just because they're foreigners.


i do agree there is some bias with tastosis, husky,. I think their mannerisms are a little bit more subtle and non-offensive overall. I just don't see artosis going crazy if huk wins MLG orlando. or if Naniwa gets second place at providence.

You are right, they do make the contests between koreans and foreigners alot closer than they usually are. But i still think there mannerisms are more restrained. I think it's quite okay for Artosis and tasteless to root for the underdog in GSL and MLGs.


Regarding the poster from Vietnam, Yes Korea is the host country. but they are sponsoring an International tournament that has players from all over the world. I think as a good host, you be fair and gracious and good manner when you
interview, cast, and cheer. That's just my two cents. I

sashquajah
Profile Joined December 2011
Russian Federation3 Posts
December 10 2011 05:21 GMT
#6528
holly molly , tl is full of korean fanboyz as i see :D GOGO Europe fighting!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6529
On December 10 2011 14:20 KalWarkov wrote:
Im happy for Kas showchasing how good he can be once.

Kind of proud as a European how the tournament went, you might say europe had the most participants, but most of them arent worth mentioning at all. Topplayers from each region are missing and europe does well. gj!

Top contenders all around were missing, but the chinese have been stomping more than the europeans overall.
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6530
On December 10 2011 14:20 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:18 Dexington wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:17 Fionn wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:16 Dexington wrote:
So either Polt, Kas, Titan or XiGua make the Blizzard Cup.

Honestly, I think Polt is the worst one there right now.


Sorry, but that's laughable.


Polt's been doing pretty damn bad lately in the GSL


He went 1-2 in his group where he went 1-1 with the best ZvT in the world Leenock, and botched a game against Ganzi that he should have won. Then he got paired up with ForGG in Code A. He's still one of the better Terrans in Korea and one of the highest winning percentages on Korean ladder.

Not to say Kas, Titan or XiGua are bad, but I don't see how Polt is worse than them by losing to Leenock and ForGG.

Exactly. Why can't we just all be happy to see them in Blizz Cup instead of mouthing off here?
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6531
On December 10 2011 14:20 quancer wrote:
Honestly, the Lyn vs Sky series was so much better than the SC2 games I've seen today and almost all week. SC2 may have all the money in esports right now, but it has such a long way to go as a competitive title. You can see how much more mature WC3 is in comparison--though obviously maturity should be expected from a dying game.



Well, you have to take into concideration that
a) you arent used to see highlvl wc3 as often anymore, therefore you are more excited and happy
b) Wc3 is much more developed then sc2 is currently, its just like with BW, BW games are for some people more exciting as well.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6532
On December 10 2011 14:21 Hydroxyl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:09 chatuka wrote:
I don't see Artosis and Day 9 going bat s333 over Idra and Huk.



You must be new here.


lol day9 casting huk is the most biased thing in the world. maybe day9 casting select could beat that. close though.
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6533
I actually still miss brood war not being at wcg. I dont see why a game that is still fun to watch that requires more skill to be good at needs to be removed because its too old and a sequel came out.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6534
On December 10 2011 14:18 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:17 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:14 mordk wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:13 Seeker wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:12 mordk wrote:
Well. MKP was playing like crap all tournament long.

Sad to see KR fail so hard


With only 3 representatives...... it's hard for them to win it all. KR needed like 6 or 7 ppl representing

These KR are top level, they are way beyond the competition, and certainly way beyond the people they lost to, maybe excepting Kas. Losing like this is a failure.


especially since its in korea, not like most other confrontations between korea and foreigners.


I think people are treating SC 2 like BW still. They think that the edge that Koreans have in SC 2 is so insurmountable that if they send 3 players to a tournament they'll get top 3. That's not the case, and this WCG just showed it.

I'd agree with you if these players were Killer, Fruitdealer, and TOP. These are top terrans, on a top tier even by GSL standards. It's not just random Code A terrans.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6535
On December 10 2011 14:16 LittLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:14 J1.au wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:07 LittLeD wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:06 J1.au wrote:
Can't take WC3 seriously with Orc the way it is. It's a shame.

......are you freaking serious?

Yes. Orc is the most boring race in WC3. It's just the same players doing the same strategies all the time.

Clueless troll. Get out and save yourself some face while you can.

There's no need to insult me just because you misunderstood my comment.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6536
On December 10 2011 14:18 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:14 J1.au wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:07 LittLeD wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:06 J1.au wrote:
Can't take WC3 seriously with Orc the way it is. It's a shame.

......are you freaking serious?

Yes. Orc is the most boring race in WC3. It's just the same players doing the same strategies all the time.

Grubby used Far Seer a fair amount and won with it, but its true that Lyn sticks to what he is good at and I don't blame him.TH000 and Remind were dominating the scene not too long ago, stop whing about orc in general, ud tears are acceptable but that's it.

Right now I think Infi's probably the most in-shape HU player at the moment. Luci just beat Fly at some small cup also very recently! (Yay, UD!) And ofc, TeD's back and knocking on the G-League door.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#6537
On December 10 2011 14:21 sashquajah wrote:
holly molly , tl is full of korean fanboyz as i see :D GOGO Europe fighting!


Well, we are used to Koreans winning against Terrible foreigners. Its a hard habit to break :D
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2011 05:23 GMT
#6538
I'll just leave this here about Polt:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1856_Polt/games

Losses to Kas and Nerchio this month. And this...

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/1856_Polt/games

Lots of losses on that page.

I know Polt is a great player, but this is a game of streaks. He is not on a good one.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
a4bisu
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia86 Posts
December 10 2011 05:23 GMT
#6539
so when is semi final?
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
December 10 2011 05:23 GMT
#6540
On December 10 2011 14:21 sashquajah wrote:
holly molly , tl is full of korean fanboyz as i see :D GOGO Europe fighting!


I'm with you guy!

Kas vs Titan-finals please.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
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