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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
May 16 2011 23:20 GMT
#8621
On May 17 2011 07:36 Suc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 07:08 ReiKo wrote:
vods?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203014
Scroll to the bottom of the OP.


Thx
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
May 17 2011 01:48 GMT
#8622
On May 17 2011 07:05 elementz wrote:
Naniwa raging @Chill was uncalled for I am sure Chill did not want to lag the game out, that is BattleNet for you though.

He wasn't raging. He was playing for 15k in the grand finals of a tournament. He's going to be on edge and not patient. No spectator/caster should ruin the game for any of the players.
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
May 17 2011 02:03 GMT
#8623
Just watched the VODS.

FUCK YEAH THORZAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
May 17 2011 02:06 GMT
#8624
On May 17 2011 10:48 Uhh Negative wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 07:05 elementz wrote:
Naniwa raging @Chill was uncalled for I am sure Chill did not want to lag the game out, that is BattleNet for you though.

He wasn't raging. He was playing for 15k in the grand finals of a tournament. He's going to be on edge and not patient. No spectator/caster should ruin the game for any of the players.


Except Thorzain, under the exact same circumstances, kept his cool and didnt rage.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 17 2011 04:03 GMT
#8625
On May 17 2011 11:06 fortheGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 10:48 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:05 elementz wrote:
Naniwa raging @Chill was uncalled for I am sure Chill did not want to lag the game out, that is BattleNet for you though.

He wasn't raging. He was playing for 15k in the grand finals of a tournament. He's going to be on edge and not patient. No spectator/caster should ruin the game for any of the players.


Except Thorzain, under the exact same circumstances, kept his cool and didnt rage.

Quoting Thorzain when I asked him if he lost would he have come to the after party, He told me "yeah, of course"
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 04:10:56
May 17 2011 04:10 GMT
#8626
On May 17 2011 11:06 fortheGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 10:48 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:05 elementz wrote:
Naniwa raging @Chill was uncalled for I am sure Chill did not want to lag the game out, that is BattleNet for you though.

He wasn't raging. He was playing for 15k in the grand finals of a tournament. He's going to be on edge and not patient. No spectator/caster should ruin the game for any of the players.


Except Thorzain, under the exact same circumstances, kept his cool and didnt rage.


And Naniwa was under a lot more stress with Thorzain still being the underdog + having won the last three games in a row. Naniwa was tilting pretty hard at that point. Sure, commend Thorzain for keeping his cool, but he wasn't in the same situation as Naniwa and Naniwa has all the right in the world to tell a lagger to get out of a game that is worth that much money.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
May 17 2011 04:18 GMT
#8627
On May 17 2011 13:03 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 11:06 fortheGG wrote:
On May 17 2011 10:48 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:05 elementz wrote:
Naniwa raging @Chill was uncalled for I am sure Chill did not want to lag the game out, that is BattleNet for you though.

He wasn't raging. He was playing for 15k in the grand finals of a tournament. He's going to be on edge and not patient. No spectator/caster should ruin the game for any of the players.


Except Thorzain, under the exact same circumstances, kept his cool and didnt rage.

Quoting Thorzain when I asked him if he lost would he have come to the after party, He told me "yeah, of course"


come on guys, give naniwa a break
he played a very important game and chill lagged
all he wrote was
"CHILL GET OUT", in capital letters
I mean he obviously wanted him to leave, but that is completely his right

and for the afterparty, I don't know but Thorzaine wasn't in the situation that he lost (in fact he just won, so he most likely was in a good mood, so its easy to say, "yeha I would have definitely come")

naniwa he did nothing wrong
his nerves played a trick on him, falmed nobody
he just didn't want to go celebrate and drink after a loss...big surprise there
Sight-
Profile Joined January 2011
184 Posts
May 17 2011 04:35 GMT
#8628
On May 17 2011 13:18 Sadir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 13:03 Blasterion wrote:
On May 17 2011 11:06 fortheGG wrote:
On May 17 2011 10:48 Uhh Negative wrote:
On May 17 2011 07:05 elementz wrote:
Naniwa raging @Chill was uncalled for I am sure Chill did not want to lag the game out, that is BattleNet for you though.

He wasn't raging. He was playing for 15k in the grand finals of a tournament. He's going to be on edge and not patient. No spectator/caster should ruin the game for any of the players.


Except Thorzain, under the exact same circumstances, kept his cool and didnt rage.

Quoting Thorzain when I asked him if he lost would he have come to the after party, He told me "yeah, of course"


come on guys, give naniwa a break
he played a very important game and chill lagged
all he wrote was
"CHILL GET OUT", in capital letters
I mean he obviously wanted him to leave, but that is completely his right

and for the afterparty, I don't know but Thorzaine wasn't in the situation that he lost (in fact he just won, so he most likely was in a good mood, so its easy to say, "yeha I would have definitely come")

naniwa he did nothing wrong
his nerves played a trick on him, falmed nobody
he just didn't want to go celebrate and drink after a loss...big surprise there
While I completely understand Naniwa not going to the party, I definitely can see Thorzain going. I mean, they seem to have completely different attitudes. It's not like Naniwa is evil for deciding to do the opposite; just different people do different things, and react differently.
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
May 17 2011 04:49 GMT
#8629
Just watched the boss. Great games, great finals. gg wp ThorZaiN
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
May 17 2011 05:44 GMT
#8630
In the last game, with that much god damn pressure, I wouldn't blame him even if he was way worse than that. Then not going to the party I'd find kind of expectable.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
May 17 2011 05:48 GMT
#8631
I think it's interesting to observe the differences between how Naniwa and Thorzain handled the lag episode.

Forget about how it happened, because it could have happened a thousand different ways.

Yes, Naniwa is under pressure and he just lost 2 in a row. However, given his reaction it's almost as if he thought this was some show match with 20 random spectators in it. Does he not realize that the reason he has a shot at 15k is because there's thousands of fans out there wanting to spectate, and that there needs to be commentators bringing the action to the fans? Does he not realize that it's not up to him on whether Chill should leave or not?

There wasn't actually anything wrong with what he said. I just find that it gives everyone an insight into his personality and makes him come off as a sort of cranky spoiled kid. It makes me dislike him as a player, and makes me like Thorzain more.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
May 17 2011 06:15 GMT
#8632
Just watched the VODS FUCK YEAH!!! THORZAIN FTW =D i think i just wake up my GF but who cares XD
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
mskaa
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark155 Posts
May 17 2011 06:27 GMT
#8633
This was really epic guys! NEED MORE TSL PLZ :D
Thorzain should be a hero unit in HoTS
shaman6ix
Profile Joined January 2011
Greece212 Posts
May 17 2011 06:32 GMT
#8634
On May 17 2011 14:48 BuddhaMonk wrote:
I think it's interesting to observe the differences between how Naniwa and Thorzain handled the lag episode.

Forget about how it happened, because it could have happened a thousand different ways.

Yes, Naniwa is under pressure and he just lost 2 in a row. However, given his reaction it's almost as if he thought this was some show match with 20 random spectators in it. Does he not realize that the reason he has a shot at 15k is because there's thousands of fans out there wanting to spectate, and that there needs to be commentators bringing the action to the fans? Does he not realize that it's not up to him on whether Chill should leave or not?

There wasn't actually anything wrong with what he said. I just find that it gives everyone an insight into his personality and makes him come off as a sort of cranky spoiled kid. It makes me dislike him as a player, and makes me like Thorzain more.


there is so much fail in this post, i dont even know what to say. cranky spoiled kid because he told the lagger to leave with so much on the line and in a tense situation like this? youre dissing naniwa when at the same time, a 9year old like idra has so many fans for being an immature ahole? saying ''chill get out'' does not, in any way conceivable, show disrespect to the fans and the spectators. think before posting and this site may become a better place.

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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
May 17 2011 06:43 GMT
#8635
WTF is wrong with u guys?? I am a thorzain fan, but Chill was causing the lag, thorzain is the one who paused the game, obviously wanted chill to leave too, its just that naniwa is the 1 to point it out so that they can continue the game smoothly. what is wrong with that?? it is not bad manner at all, thorzain dint say it out and naniwa helped him say it, thats all. chill wants to get involved in this, we know, he has good casting, so its not his fault either, its nobody's fault. its such a small matter, y cant people just get over it and enjoy the games?? =.= and about not going to the party, come on!!! have u seen football players fighting in a football match after the finals?? instead, what naniwa did is he went to congratulate thorzain. and yet u all expect him to celebrate thorzain's win over him?? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COMMUNITY??? zzz
Oppa feeding style
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 17 2011 06:43 GMT
#8636
I think one nice extra detail to Thorzain winning is that he was the first to take down a Korean. It was such a huge deal when he won and almost no one saw it coming. After that when more Koreans lost it didn't seem as special, and that maybe Thorzain didn't have it so bad since he was against Fruitdealer and not (for example) MVP or NesTea, but then of course he came back by destroying Tyler and then MC. What a complete shock that he won...
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
May 17 2011 06:48 GMT
#8637
On May 17 2011 15:32 shaman6ix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 14:48 BuddhaMonk wrote:
I think it's interesting to observe the differences between how Naniwa and Thorzain handled the lag episode.

Forget about how it happened, because it could have happened a thousand different ways.

Yes, Naniwa is under pressure and he just lost 2 in a row. However, given his reaction it's almost as if he thought this was some show match with 20 random spectators in it. Does he not realize that the reason he has a shot at 15k is because there's thousands of fans out there wanting to spectate, and that there needs to be commentators bringing the action to the fans? Does he not realize that it's not up to him on whether Chill should leave or not?

There wasn't actually anything wrong with what he said. I just find that it gives everyone an insight into his personality and makes him come off as a sort of cranky spoiled kid. It makes me dislike him as a player, and makes me like Thorzain more.


there is so much fail in this post, i dont even know what to say. cranky spoiled kid because he told the lagger to leave with so much on the line and in a tense situation like this? youre dissing naniwa when at the same time, a 9year old like idra has so many fans for being an immature ahole? saying ''chill get out'' does not, in any way conceivable, show disrespect to the fans and the spectators. think before posting and this site may become a better place.


Yes a lot was on the line, but the same can be said for Thorzain, and it's not just some random "lagger", this is one of two important commentators who are bringing the action to the fans, without which there would be no TSL to begin with.

Also, where did I say he disrespected the fans? What does Idra have to do with this? If you want to argue against my opinion at least try and actually address the point.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
May 17 2011 06:56 GMT
#8638
On May 17 2011 15:43 weiliem wrote:
WTF is wrong with u guys?? I am a thorzain fan, but Chill was causing the lag, thorzain is the one who paused the game, obviously wanted chill to leave too, its just that naniwa is the 1 to point it out so that they can continue the game smoothly. what is wrong with that?? it is not bad manner at all, thorzain dint say it out and naniwa helped him say it, thats all. chill wants to get involved in this, we know, he has good casting, so its not his fault either, its nobody's fault. its such a small matter, y cant people just get over it and enjoy the games?? =.= and about not going to the party, come on!!! have u seen football players fighting in a football match after the finals?? instead, what naniwa did is he went to congratulate thorzain. and yet u all expect him to celebrate thorzain's win over him?? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COMMUNITY??? zzz


i agree with this post. gawd, naniwa's reaction was fine. i suppose you guys will enjoy it when international standard imposes a "pp" only no other in game chat rule
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
May 17 2011 07:05 GMT
#8639
I feel Chill should have left the game right away, even if he was a commentator. The players' comfort is more important, and Day9 is fine for a solo caster, Chill knows this. Seemed to me like Chill felt above leaving until the second time he lagged, which is a douche move. He shouldn't have risked it in the final match of a close series like this. That match may have played out differently if there wasn't a second spike right before Nani's big push to mess up the mindset. This is coming from someone rooting for Thorzain that game btw. Don't be a noob next time Chill.

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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 17 2011 07:09 GMT
#8640
Just finished watching the vods.

Amazing series with so many solid games. Thorzain really showed us something special with his run. Beating a series of great players and taking out naniwa when he seemed unbeatable.

Gratz to him. He has a new fan! And without a single thor!
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