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El_Deuz
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 20:54:50
May 16 2011 20:54 GMT
#8601
TSL FINAL > GSL Code S FINAL ??
MVP I Polt I Bomber
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
May 16 2011 20:54 GMT
#8602
There was nothing wrong with nanis macro in G7 other than maybe not enough gates. It's normal to float and wait for a full warp in since we can't que. His problem was not attacking straight up when he had far superior force and no vikings or two were on feild and no ghost. He could have walked through thorzains base but I'm not sure nani had and observer to realize just how superior his army was...need to rewatch
MC for president
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
May 16 2011 21:07 GMT
#8603
On May 17 2011 05:54 El_Deuz wrote:
TSL FINAL > GSL Code S FINAL ??


What's the questionmarks for? Its a fact lol. GSL finals were the worst series I've seen in ages
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
PsyChoRo
Profile Joined October 2010
Romania85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 21:12:01
May 16 2011 21:11 GMT
#8604
On May 17 2011 06:07 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 05:54 El_Deuz wrote:
TSL FINAL > GSL Code S FINAL ??


What's the questionmarks for? Its a fact lol. GSL finals were the worst series I've seen in ages


GSL wasn't as bad as it was terribly one sided in Nestea's favour, and lacked entertainment value. Thankfully TSL delivered the fix i needed for my SC addiction !
Msrobinson
Profile Joined October 2010
United States138 Posts
May 16 2011 21:14 GMT
#8605
tdt, Naniwas macro and play in game 7 was atrocious. He consistently threw away units that he shouldn't have, and he consistently went over 2,000 minerals on two base. He just played loads worse than game than games 1-6. There is no getting around that. I think he was off put because his 4 gate didn't work.

Being said, THORZAIN FTW!
The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 21:20:06
May 16 2011 21:19 GMT
#8606
On May 17 2011 06:14 Msrobinson wrote:
tdt, Naniwas macro and play in game 7 was atrocious. He consistently threw away units that he shouldn't have, and he consistently went over 2,000 minerals on two base. He just played loads worse than game than games 1-6. There is no getting around that. I think he was off put because his 4 gate didn't work.

Being said, THORZAIN FTW!

He was off because it was the last game in the series. Everything came down to that last game.. & unfortunately crumbled under the pressure. I think NaNiwas the better player but how he takes this loss will define him forever.
hi. big fan.
Sight-
Profile Joined January 2011
184 Posts
May 16 2011 21:21 GMT
#8607
On May 17 2011 06:19 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 06:14 Msrobinson wrote:
tdt, Naniwas macro and play in game 7 was atrocious. He consistently threw away units that he shouldn't have, and he consistently went over 2,000 minerals on two base. He just played loads worse than game than games 1-6. There is no getting around that. I think he was off put because his 4 gate didn't work.

Being said, THORZAIN FTW!

He was off because it was the last game in the series. Everything came down to that last game.. & unfortunately crumbled under the pressure. I think NaNiwas the better player but how he takes this loss will define him forever.

Is this his biggest loss to date?

And also an interesting question: Up 3-1, did he crumble? Or did thorzain step up when he was down 1-3?
affliction
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany198 Posts
May 16 2011 21:27 GMT
#8608
On May 17 2011 06:07 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 05:54 El_Deuz wrote:
TSL FINAL > GSL Code S FINAL ??


What's the questionmarks for? Its a fact lol. GSL finals were the worst series I've seen in ages



Absolutely 100% true. The GSL finals were the worst shit i've seen in sc2 so far i think. I was so mad at Inca for taking a Spot in the finals and making it terribly boring.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
May 16 2011 21:33 GMT
#8609
On May 17 2011 06:14 Msrobinson wrote:
tdt, Naniwas macro and play in game 7 was atrocious. He consistently threw away units that he shouldn't have, and he consistently went over 2,000 minerals on two base. He just played loads worse than game than games 1-6. There is no getting around that. I think he was off put because his 4 gate didn't work.

Being said, THORZAIN FTW!

Yeah after period I was talking about sure his macro sucked for a bit, He should have expanded or built more gates if he was not going to attack but just harrass. My point was his poor decision making lost him match not macro. Because even once nani got marco up to par with more gates and expanding and had superior army again to Thors 3 barracks he waffled again in middle of map. Thor was trapped down low when taking out nanis third expo. Not only did nani let thors reinforcements sneak right past him he just sat there not base trading which he would have easily won nor going after thors inferior army which he would have easily won.
MC for president
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
May 16 2011 21:39 GMT
#8610
On May 17 2011 05:54 El_Deuz wrote:
TSL FINAL > GSL Code S FINAL ??

I don't know I turned off GSL one and a half games into it. May have gotten better but I doubt it. The worst TSL games were better than what I saw. And the final OMG!!
MC for president
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 16 2011 21:43 GMT
#8611
On May 17 2011 06:21 Sight- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 06:19 FataLe wrote:
On May 17 2011 06:14 Msrobinson wrote:
tdt, Naniwas macro and play in game 7 was atrocious. He consistently threw away units that he shouldn't have, and he consistently went over 2,000 minerals on two base. He just played loads worse than game than games 1-6. There is no getting around that. I think he was off put because his 4 gate didn't work.

Being said, THORZAIN FTW!

He was off because it was the last game in the series. Everything came down to that last game.. & unfortunately crumbled under the pressure. I think NaNiwas the better player but how he takes this loss will define him forever.

Is this his biggest loss to date?

And also an interesting question: Up 3-1, did he crumble? Or did thorzain step up when he was down 1-3?


Hmm I would say both. Every game naniwa won but game 4 he won with his macro build. Then when he won with that all in on terminus he tried all inning again game 5-6 if i recall. i think if he had played his normal style after winning on terminus he probably would have won. But thorzain stepped up as well having some good decision making.

I was personally very happy to see thorzain win :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
May 16 2011 21:54 GMT
#8612
It was an incredible series. Naniwa's decisions game 7 didn't take away from the game, it made it more intense. The two players were incredibly equally matched and it created an incredible final series.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
May 16 2011 22:00 GMT
#8613
Naniwa will avenge this loss at MLG Columbus.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 22:03:08
May 16 2011 22:02 GMT
#8614
cant believe people are blaming Chill for Naniwa losing. So if Thorzain lost g7 then we should've blamed Chill for that?
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
May 16 2011 22:05 GMT
#8615
Naniwa raging @Chill was uncalled for I am sure Chill did not want to lag the game out, that is BattleNet for you though.
this mah s#$%$
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
May 16 2011 22:08 GMT
#8616
vods?
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
May 16 2011 22:33 GMT
#8617
Best series of Sc2 I've ever seen. I couldn't stay up for the games so I avoided spoilers the next day and loaded up the vods when I got home from university.

When ThorZaiN broke the contain in game 6 ... when he started to come back from the 1-3 disadvantage ... and every single moment of game 7, holy shit was I on the edge of my seat!

Massive props to ThorZaiN and NaNiwa for providing the most entertaining series ever. And, of course, MASSIVE-ER props again to ThorZaiN for completing the Cinderalla story and taking the finals!
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 16 2011 22:35 GMT
#8618
On May 17 2011 07:33 Sarang wrote:
MASSIVE-ER props

And thus Thorzain has given birth to a new word
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
May 16 2011 22:36 GMT
#8619
On May 17 2011 07:08 ReiKo wrote:
vods?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203014
Scroll to the bottom of the OP.
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
May 16 2011 22:40 GMT
#8620
On May 17 2011 05:54 tdt wrote:
There was nothing wrong with nanis macro in G7 other than maybe not enough gates. It's normal to float and wait for a full warp in since we can't que. His problem was not attacking straight up when he had far superior force and no vikings or two were on feild and no ghost. He could have walked through thorzains base but I'm not sure nani had and observer to realize just how superior his army was...need to rewatch


You need to rewatch again then, because his macro was terrible. We was clearly tilted as he floated to 2200 mins and went up to 10 gate because of the slip. He also got no upgrades or tech other than colossus comparared to when he did the same build on shakuras and got upgrades and templars.

Watch closer.
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
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