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pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
May 14 2011 12:00 GMT
#4141
On May 14 2011 20:59 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Has there been a good GSL final?

Nestea vs Marineking
Hi
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
May 14 2011 12:02 GMT
#4142
NesTea is pretty baller with a 85% win rate ZvP and a 92% win rate ZvZ.

That's pretty nerd baller.
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
May 14 2011 12:02 GMT
#4143
On May 14 2011 21:00 pieman819 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 20:59 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Has there been a good GSL final?

Nestea vs Marineking

and fruitdealer vs rainbow
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
May 14 2011 12:04 GMT
#4144
On May 14 2011 20:50 scatmango2 wrote:
Korean protoss' are so bad...they think they have to cheese in order to win...but guess what spore crawlers counter all protoss cheese-tech when the fuck will people realize this. if a zerg sees a protoss on 1 base at the ~7 minute mark guess what you do ...throw down a spore crawler = gg protoss cheese. so fucking sad.

except the best protoss is a koean (MC).
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
May 14 2011 12:04 GMT
#4145
On May 14 2011 21:02 kratos-23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 21:00 pieman819 wrote:
On May 14 2011 20:59 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Has there been a good GSL final?

Nestea vs Marineking

and fruitdealer vs rainbow

Both those finals were pretty lame too imo.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 14 2011 12:05 GMT
#4146
On May 14 2011 21:00 pieman819 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 20:59 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Has there been a good GSL final?

Nestea vs Marineking


if you like scv all-ins
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4202 Posts
May 14 2011 12:06 GMT
#4147
On May 14 2011 19:07 pieman819 wrote:
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On May 14 2011 18:59 human_ko wrote:
, how stupid a player has to be to use 1 build 3 times in a row still losing with it?

like what Nada did in the semis you mean.


Thats different bro, NaDa got beat by 1 base builds, and nestea didnt even cheese, inca just didnt know how to build cannons.
Ingruz
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy380 Posts
May 14 2011 12:06 GMT
#4148
anyone knows the name of the song played in background during the recap of Nestea's route in GSL before the match 3? thanks!
My life for Aiur!
Metaphysic
Profile Joined September 2010
63 Posts
May 14 2011 12:07 GMT
#4149
Worst GSL final yet, and they've all been pretty underwhelming.
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Why Inca decided to go DTs in every game when it became clear that Nestea knew the timings for all DT builds is beyond me
Drased
Profile Joined April 2011
9 Posts
May 14 2011 12:07 GMT
#4150
On May 14 2011 21:00 Pipeline wrote:
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On May 14 2011 20:43 Drased wrote:
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In the entire series (in Idras defence) only 1 collosus was made. :>

Don't take me too straigth, its not directly about 'collosus imba' argument of Idra, more like him looking for things to complain related to zerg race instead of working on his own play/strategies. Players like NesTea proove that it's all about gameplay, he also prooven that Day9 was right with 'game is still evolving' part.

Also I had this fun screenshoot from NASL and had to use it


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LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
May 14 2011 12:08 GMT
#4151
On May 14 2011 21:00 Pipeline wrote:
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On May 14 2011 20:43 Drased wrote:
[image loading]


In the entire series (in Idras defence) only 1 collosus was made. :>

I cant believe so many down voted the games. Sure the games were one sided, but just as Day9 pointed out, its usually those games that you get the most value out of. I was blown away by Nesteas perfect read in all the games. It looked like he really got inside Incas head. All Inca did failed.

Big thanks to GomTV for a awesome GSL May tournament. And big thanks to Nestea for showing some super awesome games and crisp timings.


Honestly there's no value that can be taken out of this final, it was pretty much Inca trying the same thing all 4 games and losing the same way in all 4 games.
The spice must flow
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 14 2011 12:08 GMT
#4152
On May 14 2011 20:47 Wargizmo wrote:
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On May 14 2011 20:42 WArped wrote:
On May 14 2011 20:40 hugman wrote:
Just looked at the game ratings, were they really that bad?


If you want to watch someone completely rolling over his opponent these games are for you. Inca just had no response and played pretty poorly.


It was even worse than that, Inca didn't even give himself a chance to win, he did the same build 3 times against an opponent that was clearly prepared for it. I mean Nestea would have won anyway but with those builds there's not a Protoss alive on the planet that would have taken a game off Nestea.

Really? DT rushed 3 times?
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
May 14 2011 12:10 GMT
#4153
I'm pretty impressed by Inca. I mean, he just lost 4 games against zerg and yet his PvZ win rate remained the same.
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 12:13:51
May 14 2011 12:10 GMT
#4154
On May 14 2011 21:08 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 20:47 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 14 2011 20:42 WArped wrote:
On May 14 2011 20:40 hugman wrote:
Just looked at the game ratings, were they really that bad?


If you want to watch someone completely rolling over his opponent these games are for you. Inca just had no response and played pretty poorly.


It was even worse than that, Inca didn't even give himself a chance to win, he did the same build 3 times against an opponent that was clearly prepared for it. I mean Nestea would have won anyway but with those builds there's not a Protoss alive on the planet that would have taken a game off Nestea.

Really? DT rushed 3 times?

they wernt rushes, they where to sto nestea expo and to put pressure on early, its a shame a unit which takes SO long to get out and costs so much can be made useless by a super cheap and easy to build spor crawler lol
and then he insta loses because mobile detection is easy to get and arcons are still awful.
pff
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46583 Posts
May 14 2011 12:11 GMT
#4155
Well now.

That was pretty straightforward.

NesTea totally deserved it
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
May 14 2011 12:13 GMT
#4156
On May 14 2011 21:05 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 21:00 pieman819 wrote:
On May 14 2011 20:59 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Has there been a good GSL final?

Nestea vs Marineking


if you like scv all-ins

It was basically seeing the 2rax being born <3.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
May 14 2011 12:14 GMT
#4157
On May 14 2011 20:59 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Nestea tried to hug Inca at the end of the ceremony but Inca wasn't in the mood. Worst GSL final ever, even worse than the final with Rain. Has there been a good GSL final? Maybe something needs to change in the code S format.


What are you talking about? This final was awesome! I jumped on my chair from excitement. Oh wait, you are terran, and I am zerg.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 12:17:48
May 14 2011 12:15 GMT
#4158
On May 14 2011 21:08 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 20:47 Wargizmo wrote:
On May 14 2011 20:42 WArped wrote:
On May 14 2011 20:40 hugman wrote:
Just looked at the game ratings, were they really that bad?


If you want to watch someone completely rolling over his opponent these games are for you. Inca just had no response and played pretty poorly.


It was even worse than that, Inca didn't even give himself a chance to win, he did the same build 3 times against an opponent that was clearly prepared for it. I mean Nestea would have won anyway but with those builds there's not a Protoss alive on the planet that would have taken a game off Nestea.

Really? DT rushed 3 times?


Game 1 = 2gate expo, trying to go up to 4gates. No static defence and gets demolished by the roach/ling timing Losira did vs Alicia

Game 2 = DT expand, NesTea reads him like a book and it does nothing. Inca tries to attack with Archon Zealot but lets his units split up so 2 free Archons wander into NesTea's base to die to roaches while doing nothing. Inca dies shortly after to 2base Roach/ling aggression (with a third behind it)

Game 3 = DT expand, NesTea reads him like a book and it does almost nothing. One gets into the base through the back rocks and gets about 6 kills, NesTea baits Inca out and then gets a huge ling runby to killl all the probes in his main...and then just kills him with 2base Roach/ling aggression.

Game 4 = Forge fast expand into DT's. NesTea is ready for them and they do nothing. Inca goes blink with upgrades. Nestea takes masses of the map, constantly denies the third (initially with Roach/ling), then transitions into huge amounts of Muta (like 17 at once) and destroys Inca.

---

NesTea just dominated from the start, Inca had absolutely no anwers to anything and just looked helpless/hopeless out there.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
May 14 2011 12:17 GMT
#4159
On May 14 2011 20:47 Wargizmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 20:42 WArped wrote:
On May 14 2011 20:40 hugman wrote:
Just looked at the game ratings, were they really that bad?


If you want to watch someone completely rolling over his opponent these games are for you. Inca just had no response and played pretty poorly.


It was even worse than that, Inca didn't even give himself a chance to win, he did the same build 3 times against an opponent that was clearly prepared for it. I mean Nestea would have won anyway but with those builds there's not a Protoss alive on the planet that would have taken a game off Nestea.

I read an interview from Slayers ( i think it was Slayers min) and they talked about losira's roach/ling pressure against 3 gate expand. He said the team had a discussion about it and concluded it was a very good counter to 3 gate expand , but that the delayed lair made it weak against DT expand or stargate expand.So I guess that's the reason he went for DT builds , but either the execution was really bad or his preparation was just not good enough. I guess that would be the only thing that makes sense , but it's still shows that Inca doesn't know how to prepare for a match properly and how to handle pressure.
He also stated numerous time that he was mostly making his builds on his own , trying not to watch other progammers, I think that's a big mistake, he has a full team to help him prepare with the likes of MC , why not use it?
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 14 2011 12:17 GMT
#4160
just watched the vods, so happy i didn't get up for that this morning ._.

that was kinda onesided
Kevmeister @ Dota2
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