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lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
May 14 2011 08:25 GMT
#3921
If anything, this is a pretty good argument that the GSL league format is flawed. I'm not sure what would be better though.

A double elimination format is fairer toward better players, but would require more games and leads to a less fair finals (since one player has such a huge advantage).

More group stages will also ensure that more well-rounded players advance, but if it's the same amount of games, it also lessens the importance of preparation (which may also be a good thing). As a side note: I also think the GSL group stage format is ridiculous...at least copy the MSL format.
ZergZingZing
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)119 Posts
May 14 2011 08:25 GMT
#3922
Inca didn't analyze Nestea's games?
wtf was he thinking doing 3 dt expands in a row
Nestea always gets a evo and spore by 5 ~ 6 mins
if the nexus is a bit late
srsly even diamond zerg players will do this...
freaking inca terribad
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
May 14 2011 08:25 GMT
#3923
On May 14 2011 17:22 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 17:21 Barca wrote:
-_________________________________________-

MC wins with all-ins using force fields and TL explodes with "imba!"

Nestea wins with all-ins using roach/ling and TL explodes with "omg i <3 Nestea"



Don't get me wrong, Nestea > InCa for sure. Just too much bias going around.

He was holding off DT cheese basically of those games.... =/



Dt expand is no different from void ray expand or 3 gate expand. It is not an all in or cheese. It is just a way to keep the zerg occupied while taking a much safer expo
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
May 14 2011 08:25 GMT
#3924
On May 14 2011 17:20 Boof wrote:
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On May 14 2011 17:18 labbe wrote:
I'm just mad that Inca beat NaDa in the semis. Imagine if NaDa had played this instead... -.-


Nada got 2-0'd by haypro...

Still it would've been better just because it's Nada in there.


You take one match as an example of Nada's TvZ, but you don't know that nada won against zenio this season, went 2:3 against July Zerg 2 seasons ago, all of which are CODE S players who have made it miles further then haypro.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
May 14 2011 08:25 GMT
#3925
On May 14 2011 17:20 Maghetti wrote:
F or me this was the most exciting outcome. I only want a close epic finals if you have two equally matched players, but with Inca in, all I could hope for was that the better player doesn't have to give up any games to a far worse player.


Yeah this is exactly how i feel. Its rewarding in itself to see the better player win.
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
May 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#3926
On May 14 2011 17:24 ChApFoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 17:21 Barca wrote:
-_________________________________________-

MC wins with all-ins using force fields and TL explodes with "imba!"

Nestea wins with all-ins using roach/ling and TL explodes with "omg i <3 Nestea"



Don't get me wrong, Nestea > InCa for sure. Just too much bias going around.


The word all-in gets thrown way too loosely. InCa just played like shit, don't try to read into this series too much


July played just as bad.. and MC also had nexus's behind his 4gates, so it was the exact same as Nestea's build.

You can't call 4gate an all-in if you dont call this roach/ling an all-in. Cant have your cake and eat it too.
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Whisps
Profile Joined May 2011
15 Posts
May 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#3927
Shit I'd take 20 G's to get 4-0'd.

Next season!
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
May 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#3928
On May 14 2011 17:22 Prime`Rib wrote:
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On May 14 2011 17:20 cheesemaster wrote:
LOL inca does not deserve that 20k, they should take the 20k away from the runner up if he loses 0-4 and give it to the champion, because lets face it you played terrible and dont deserve any money .

Thats the first 4-0 finals im pretty sure lol. just goes to show how bad inca is.


i think MKP vs MVP is 4-0 too or something.


The mvp vs mkp was also just as one sided as this one. Only difference is that the majority was cheering for mkp that time and this time the majority was on the winners side. There wasn't any point in any of mkp's games where he stood a chance, mvp was always 1 step ahead.
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Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
May 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#3929
I must say this was the most lopsided and least exciting GSL finals so far. I think it was mainly due to Inca's poor choices throughout and making major mistakes. He certainly is better than what he showed us, he just choked very hard. I hope next finals are better. GSTL next week at least .
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
May 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#3930
I really hope for a big finals in the Super Tournament. Two huge names. MC, MVP, NesTea, LosirA, MKP, July. Please.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#3931
On May 14 2011 17:25 xbankx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 17:22 Gescom wrote:
On May 14 2011 17:21 Barca wrote:
-_________________________________________-

MC wins with all-ins using force fields and TL explodes with "imba!"

Nestea wins with all-ins using roach/ling and TL explodes with "omg i <3 Nestea"



Don't get me wrong, Nestea > InCa for sure. Just too much bias going around.

He was holding off DT cheese basically of those games.... =/



Dt expand is no different from void ray expand or 3 gate expand. It is not an all in or cheese. It is just a way to keep the zerg occupied while taking a much safer expo


Except you have less defensive units than a 3gate expand. He did 0 fucking damage every game and NesTea just killed him, it didn't even require all-ins. DT expand is only good if you can kill some stuff before the DT die.
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.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
May 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#3932
On May 14 2011 17:11 Daimai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 17:10 Ruscour wrote:
Incoming Blizzard overreaction to Roach/Ling rush.


We can always hope...


Lol.
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QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
May 14 2011 08:26 GMT
#3933
On May 14 2011 17:21 Rayansaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 17:19 Skyze wrote:
On May 14 2011 17:17 QTIP. wrote:
I really hope no one makes that silly Idra argument..

If zerg's win - it's because we're 50 times better than you.

If we lose - it's because of imbalance.


You are looking at 190 pages of it.


To be fair, THIS ONE TIME, the 50 times better part is true


Fair point.... inca is nowhere near that level.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
May 14 2011 08:27 GMT
#3934
LOL inca does not deserve that 20k, they should take the 20k away from the runner up if he loses 0-4 and give it to the champion, because lets face it you played terrible and dont deserve any money .

Thats the first 4-0 finals im pretty sure lol. just goes to show how bad inca is.


It's a tournament, and the format doesn't guarantee the best players get to the top. Get over it. He won his way to the finals fair and square. Don't pull that "he sucks" bullshit. Unless you're saying GOM has a rule where they can lie to their players and re-allocate prize money.

If he was really so bad he wouldn't have beaten Nada or gotten to the finals... let alone get out of his group.
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
May 14 2011 08:27 GMT
#3935
Worst. GSL. Finals. Ever.

"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 14 2011 08:27 GMT
#3936
On May 14 2011 17:25 xbankx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 17:22 Gescom wrote:
On May 14 2011 17:21 Barca wrote:
-_________________________________________-

MC wins with all-ins using force fields and TL explodes with "imba!"

Nestea wins with all-ins using roach/ling and TL explodes with "omg i <3 Nestea"



Don't get me wrong, Nestea > InCa for sure. Just too much bias going around.

He was holding off DT cheese basically of those games.... =/



Dt expand is no different from void ray expand or 3 gate expand. It is not an all in or cheese. It is just a way to keep the zerg occupied while taking a much safer expo


If you DT expand every game you deserve to lose the way he did...
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EnTaroAdun411
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines106 Posts
May 14 2011 08:27 GMT
#3937
I play zerg, and I'm happy that a zerg won.

But this finals was meh. I expected a macro-fest, with 200/200 zerg and protoss deathballs clashing every 5 minutes.

Anyways, congrats to Nestea! For the Swarm!
MigraineBoy#1957
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
May 14 2011 08:27 GMT
#3938
On May 14 2011 17:19 jazzbassmatt wrote:
CONSPIRACY

http://www.wtr1be.com/starcraft-2/ogs-inca-throws-gsl-finals/


LOLWUT
I'm sure with the money he wins, he could buy them

Poor inca
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zelot
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy11 Posts
May 14 2011 08:27 GMT
#3939
well the fact that inca was coming from a 0-4 against zerg was a giveaway. still the tactics used by nestea are strong and have been used a lot in the European scene.

Get out a lot of stuff as soon as protoss expands and u got a very good shot at winning. lings if he has stalkers roach if he has zea+ sentry
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
May 14 2011 08:27 GMT
#3940
On May 14 2011 17:21 Barca wrote:
-_________________________________________-

MC wins with all-ins using force fields and TL explodes with "imba!"

Nestea wins with all-ins using roach/ling and TL explodes with "omg i <3 Nestea"



Don't get me wrong, Nestea > InCa for sure. Just too much bias going around.


Because 6 base to 2 base is all-in.
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