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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2621
On May 09 2011 04:53 RobertoLL wrote:
why did naniwa not typed gg in the first game? there was no cheese or something from hasu.

He knew he played a bad game. I really don't mind gg being a representation of how the player thinks the game went.
#TeamBuLba
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2622
On May 09 2011 04:53 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:51 Maliris wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:50 Fighter wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:47 Maliris wrote:
How come so few watched Thorzain kas but a ton more watched this? O_O i thought everyone hated PvP, is it just day9+Husky combo?


Could have something to do with today being sunday?

well the discrepency has never been that huge, plus thorzain kas are pretty huge names


I think the following have an influence.

1) Naniwa > Thorzain in drawing viewers at this point imo.

2) Sunday factor.

3) Day9 and Husky factor, both having their own substantial fan bases compared to yesterdays casters.

hmm true, i guess its all 3 combined

Sucks imo, cuz TvT is one of the best matchups in sc2 atm... I think people just think of BW TvT or Early tvt where it was Tank viking wars (extremely boring), plus thorzain vs kas was a lot more entertaining than this
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2623
Congratulations Naniwa. Even though 4G sucks to watch, you did what it took to win and proved why you're probably the most on form non-korean at the moment.
ntvarify
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2624
Gratz Naniwa, you played awesome!
nemo14
Profile Joined January 2011
United States425 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2625
On May 09 2011 04:53 diverzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:50 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:49 ArnaudF wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:48 LiviN wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:47 Maliris wrote:
How come so few watched Thorzain kas but a ton more watched this? O_O i thought everyone hated PvP, is it just day9+Husky combo?


The Husky factor I would think.


I would rather say the Chill factor.


Does not compute.


Chill is not as popular as the other casters. Also recently rather the opposite being the reason Idra is banned.


I wonder what IdrA said to the TL staff that got him banned for 90 days.
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
May 08 2011 19:56 GMT
#2626
On May 09 2011 04:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:53 RobertoLL wrote:
why did naniwa not typed gg in the first game? there was no cheese or something from hasu.


He's well-known for his bad manners (or lack of overly good manners). He was probably just acting normal.

It's probably not the case that his computer froze >.>

He WAS well-known for that. I believe the no-gg was 'cause he played terrible, not because Hasu did something cheesy.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
May 08 2011 19:56 GMT
#2627
On May 09 2011 04:53 EscPlan9 wrote:
ThorZain for the millionth time is the underdog.

I'm not so sure about that.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46547 Posts
May 08 2011 19:56 GMT
#2628
On May 09 2011 04:53 EscPlan9 wrote:
Lets be optimistic here:

* There will be dozens of warnings and bans for crap quality responses like "qft", "this", quoting with no content, etc.

* There is an "intermission" before EG Master's Cup.

* ThorZain vs Naniwa in the finals!! ThorZain for the millionth time is the underdog.

* In general, the best part about PvPs in tournaments: one less Protoss remains in the tournament! Hell, if I designed tournaments, I would make all Protoss matches for the first rounds be PvPs to take out 50% of the boring to watch games. That or just make "no Protoss allowed" for the sake of the spectators lol


Some of us like PvPs, although we appreciate your opinion as well.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
May 08 2011 19:56 GMT
#2629
Thorzain will be a huge crowd favorite in NYC but take it from someone who follow the Swedish scene closely: Naniwa is a HUGE favorite to win.
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Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 08 2011 19:56 GMT
#2630
On May 09 2011 04:55 nemo14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:53 diverzee wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:50 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:49 ArnaudF wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:48 LiviN wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:47 Maliris wrote:
How come so few watched Thorzain kas but a ton more watched this? O_O i thought everyone hated PvP, is it just day9+Husky combo?


The Husky factor I would think.


I would rather say the Chill factor.


Does not compute.


Chill is not as popular as the other casters. Also recently rather the opposite being the reason Idra is banned.


I wonder what IdrA said to the TL staff that got him banned for 90 days.

there is a thread about it in TL community
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 08 2011 19:56 GMT
#2631
On May 09 2011 04:54 Necosarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:49 Finrod1 wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:46 JWD wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:45 hugman wrote:
I want to apologize for all the annoying swedes =/

Nah man, Swedes have a right to be proud. ThorZain and NaNi have both shown awesome games this tourney!


Proud of what exactly? Be born? It's not about this specific event i just get annoyed by all of the nationalism in sports everywhere....
You can only be proud of what youself have accomplished...

We can be proud of our fellow swedes reaching the finals? And of course there will be nationalism, can you honestly say that you were not rooting for Hasu because he's from Germany?

I was rooting for Hasu because he looks like me hahahaha.

Still, I knew nothing would hold Nani back after he won MLG. He's just too good right now.
#TeamBuLba
ridonkulous
Profile Joined May 2011
159 Posts
May 08 2011 19:56 GMT
#2632
On May 09 2011 04:54 DexLy wrote:
How can people complain about the entertainment value of these games? didn't we all know it'd be a 4gate fest alrdy? Will always be in PvP until 1.3.3 -.-


do u really u think 1.3.3 will change anything? i mean both players will be affected by slightly later wg ... ..
Porterjoo
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom1 Post
May 08 2011 19:57 GMT
#2633
nani will win final also 2:0 v thorzain earlier 2day in iol
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 19:58:10
May 08 2011 19:57 GMT
#2634
On May 09 2011 04:56 Nevarix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:53 RobertoLL wrote:
why did naniwa not typed gg in the first game? there was no cheese or something from hasu.


He's well-known for his bad manners (or lack of overly good manners). He was probably just acting normal.

It's probably not the case that his computer froze >.>

He WAS well-known for that. I believe the no-gg was 'cause he played terrible, not because Hasu did something cheesy.


He's still known for his bad manners in and out of games. Cue in first round of NASL, iirc.

But maybe no gg because he played poorly, sure.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 08 2011 19:57 GMT
#2635
On May 09 2011 04:56 Gigaudas wrote:
Thorzain will be a huge crowd favorite in NYC but take it from someone who follow the Swedish scene closely: Naniwa is a HUGE favorite to win.

ThorZaIN is always the underdog ^^
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Schmexi
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden341 Posts
May 08 2011 19:57 GMT
#2636
On May 09 2011 04:53 RobertoLL wrote:
why did naniwa not typed gg in the first game? there was no cheese or something from hasu.


He most than likely was very frustrated with his huge mistake and left in dissapointment, not because of something Hasu did.
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
May 08 2011 19:57 GMT
#2637
Most people aren't complaining about the players themselves, but rather the dynamic of the matchup.

Without a gentlemans agreement to just not 4-gate PvP will always have the shortest "normal" games and lowest overall entertainment value.

I mean a BO7 Semi-final was over in under 2 hours with two stream crashes, filler announcements, and advertising.

Again, I have nothing against either player, they do the best they can with the tools they are given. They are sick heroes of SC2, they are way better than I ever will be, I just really have issues with the PvP matchup as a whole.
TheRooster
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden719 Posts
May 08 2011 19:58 GMT
#2638
On May 09 2011 04:42 Jisall wrote:
wow... so exciting...

thorzain > Nani. I hope he thors him.


I hope not nani will 4gate and kill him before the first thor is out....
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Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
May 08 2011 19:58 GMT
#2639
On May 09 2011 04:54 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:50 Defeat wrote:
I love the nerds raging on Naniwa for 4 gating. When a game is for a chance to win 15k you do whatever you need to (in game wise) to win. Naniwa stuck to the basics because he knew he could come out on top. It doesn't matter that the basics for this matchup might be boring to you.

Feels resentment to White-Ra vs MC a month ago.

This is correct. Hasu showed some bad decision making these few games. Game 4 he did not scout for proxies and was punished with a proxy-gate into 4 gate. Every time he tried to wall off, he didn't wall off properly and let Naniwa into his base. Game 5 when it was a 4-gate battle, he chose to tech and not get sentries. This meant Naniwa straight up busted his way into Hasu's base before Hasu's tech could kick in.

If anything, Naniwa exploited Hasu's bad decision making and response to 4-gates and repeatedly punished him for it. It's as simple as that. There's $15k on the line. Naniwa is not going to leave this up to chance. If you know someone always plays Paper, it's not cheese to go Scissors. It's just the correct decision.


Thank you for this, MoonBear. And thank you for the great LRs. <3

Also... DAT KYUBEY.

Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
May 08 2011 19:58 GMT
#2640
On May 09 2011 04:55 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:51 Hassassin wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:46 SSLPrism wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:44 XiGua wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:43 SSLPrism wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:41 JAN0L wrote:
ok i'll never wach PvP again


Ok, be sure to have fun watching TvT with that exciting tank placement, I mean everyone loves seeing players just gain positions, am I right?

or how about that ZvZ, aww yeah baneling micro so exciting!

PvP best mirror, I guess some people don't like seeing intense micro though.


Are you kidding me? PvP is the worst mirror.


Sir, did you not read my entire post? Because the last part then obviously applies to you:
I guess some people don't like seeing intense micro though.


I don't think TvT is only about tank placement, because there is so much you can do in a TvT. Tho there were a lot of tanks in the Kas vs. ThorZAIN games. I did however like that series much better then this.

TvT - Best mirror matchup
PvP - 2nd
ZvZ is so boring......


ZvZ is not boring if you play Zerg and know the matchup well, it's one of my favourite matchups to watch and it's probably the hardest matchup to play


Toss players say that about PvP as well. Most people think matchups with their own race is the most interesting to watch.
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