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diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2601
On May 09 2011 04:50 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:49 ArnaudF wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:48 LiviN wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:47 Maliris wrote:
How come so few watched Thorzain kas but a ton more watched this? O_O i thought everyone hated PvP, is it just day9+Husky combo?


The Husky factor I would think.


I would rather say the Chill factor.


Does not compute.


Chill is not as popular as the other casters. Also recently rather the opposite being the reason Idra is banned.
Parting
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2602
Sweden easily has the best players outside of Korea. Sjow, Jinro, Morrow, Naniwa and Thorzain.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2603
On May 09 2011 04:52 purpose wrote:
I just cant get over the fact that people whine about Nani not trying anything beside 4gate. He FREAKING won the semi 4-1, he outclassed his opponent in such a short time.

Give me one....ONE good reason why the fuck he should try something els? To get some respect from a few tl.net members who are sore losers because there player lost?

FAce the facts, this is not a style point competition. You win the game and thats it....case closed!

Yeah. What surprises me more is that people expected anything other than 4gate, blizzard is patching it out for a reason
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
dumplings
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany298 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2604
why did naniwa not typed gg in the first game? there was no cheese or something from hasu.
Please don't leave! The drones need you! They're looking up to you!
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2605
Lets be optimistic here:

* There will be dozens of warnings and bans for crap quality responses like "qft", "this", quoting with no content, etc.

* There is an "intermission" before EG Master's Cup.

* ThorZain vs Naniwa in the finals!! ThorZain for the millionth time is the underdog.

* In general, the best part about PvPs in tournaments: one less Protoss remains in the tournament! Hell, if I designed tournaments, I would make all Protoss matches for the first rounds be PvPs to take out 50% of the boring to watch games. That or just make "no Protoss allowed" for the sake of the spectators lol
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SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2606
On May 09 2011 04:53 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Thanks for watching guys! Congratulations to the Swedes for once again showing they are one of the biggest power houses in eSports

♥


Woot, go go husky !
dmans
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden358 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2607
To all the haters,

You play to win the game.
Shjade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2608
On May 09 2011 04:45 MxW wrote:
Can't believe people are complaining about one base play in PvP.

When you're interested in seeing high-level competition and excitement and what you get to see is essentially three identical games back to back (the proxy was a deviation...that led into 4(5)gate; the first game, the one where Nani's initial push didn't insta-win, demonstrated his ability to fall on his face on demand), it's understandable to be a little disappointed with the show. No spice. No variety. It wasn't even like they were 4gating back and forth so there was some ebb and flow to the match.

Every round was the same at the core: Nani one-basing super-aggressively and Hasu trying to ride it out. That's not the way to make for an entertaining show. Every tournament has its dud rounds from an audience perspective; this one was one for TSL3, for some folks at least. No big deal.
Needs more blank race icon.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
May 08 2011 19:53 GMT
#2609
On May 09 2011 04:51 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:50 Fighter wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:47 Maliris wrote:
How come so few watched Thorzain kas but a ton more watched this? O_O i thought everyone hated PvP, is it just day9+Husky combo?


Could have something to do with today being sunday?

well the discrepency has never been that huge, plus thorzain kas are pretty huge names


I think the following have an influence.

1) Naniwa > Thorzain in drawing viewers at this point imo.

2) Sunday factor.

3) Day9 and Husky factor, both having their own substantial fan bases compared to yesterdays casters.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#2610
On May 09 2011 04:52 nerrciss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:49 FliedLice wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:48 LiviN wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:47 Maliris wrote:
How come so few watched Thorzain kas but a ton more watched this? O_O i thought everyone hated PvP, is it just day9+Husky combo?


The Husky factor I would think.


and sunday > saturday


he has over 460 k subs, and he posted video about him casting tsl today. I feel like a lot of people forget about that, maybe its sunday, saturday thing, but my opinion is he provides a lot of extra views.



it's all of those factors combined!
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
May 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#2611
On May 09 2011 04:49 Finrod1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:46 JWD wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:45 hugman wrote:
I want to apologize for all the annoying swedes =/

Nah man, Swedes have a right to be proud. ThorZain and NaNi have both shown awesome games this tourney!


Proud of what exactly? Be born? It's not about this specific event i just get annoyed by all of the nationalism in sports everywhere....
You can only be proud of what youself have accomplished...

We can be proud of our fellow swedes reaching the finals? And of course there will be nationalism, can you honestly say that you were not rooting for Hasu because he's from Germany?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46237 Posts
May 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#2612
On May 09 2011 04:53 RobertoLL wrote:
why did naniwa not typed gg in the first game? there was no cheese or something from hasu.


He's well-known for his bad manners (or lack of overly good manners). He was probably just acting normal.

It's probably not the case that his computer froze >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#2613
On May 09 2011 04:53 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Thanks for watching guys! Congratulations to the Swedes for once again showing they are one of the biggest power houses in eSports

♥


cheers for casting husky keep up the good work.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
May 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#2614
On May 09 2011 04:49 Finrod1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:46 JWD wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:45 hugman wrote:
I want to apologize for all the annoying swedes =/

Nah man, Swedes have a right to be proud. ThorZain and NaNi have both shown awesome games this tourney!


Proud of what exactly? Be born? It's not about this specific event i just get annoyed by all of the nationalism in sports everywhere....
You can only be proud of what youself have accomplished...


Considering the gazillion Germans raging on the LR, I'd say that your statement could go to both sides.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
DexLy
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden34 Posts
May 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#2615
How can people complain about the entertainment value of these games? didn't we all know it'd be a 4gate fest alrdy? Will always be in PvP until 1.3.3 -.-

Also this war with Swedes going all bitchy and germans going emo is just getting ridiculous
stop it
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 08 2011 19:54 GMT
#2616
On May 09 2011 04:50 Defeat wrote:
I love the nerds raging on Naniwa for 4 gating. When a game is for a chance to win 15k you do whatever you need to (in game wise) to win. Naniwa stuck to the basics because he knew he could come out on top. It doesn't matter that the basics for this matchup might be boring to you.

Feels resentment to White-Ra vs MC a month ago.

This is correct. Hasu showed some bad decision making these few games. Game 4 he did not scout for proxies and was punished with a proxy-gate into 4 gate. Every time he tried to wall off, he didn't wall off properly and let Naniwa into his base. Game 5 when it was a 4-gate battle, he chose to tech and not get sentries. This meant Naniwa straight up busted his way into Hasu's base before Hasu's tech could kick in.

If anything, Naniwa exploited Hasu's bad decision making and response to 4-gates and repeatedly punished him for it. It's as simple as that. There's $15k on the line. Naniwa is not going to leave this up to chance. If you know someone always plays Paper, it's not cheese to go Scissors. It's just the correct decision.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2617
On May 09 2011 04:52 minhchi1211 wrote:



DONT TROLL NOR WHINE!

Haha, I'm watching the Office right now. Dwight is so awesome.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2618
On May 09 2011 04:47 MoonBear wrote:
TSL Round of 4 Day 2 Round Up: [image loading](P)Dignitas.NaNiwa vs [image loading](P)mouz.HasuObs
Match 1
Match 2
Match 3
Match 4
Match 5
Match 6
Match 7

And a shameless promotion of my thread on how to LR.



Big shoutout for MoonBear! Can´t watch due to bad inet at the moment, so I´m very glad someone uses the LR thread for it´s original meaning
Thank you sir!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2619
On May 09 2011 04:51 Hassassin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:46 SSLPrism wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:44 XiGua wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:43 SSLPrism wrote:
On May 09 2011 04:41 JAN0L wrote:
ok i'll never wach PvP again


Ok, be sure to have fun watching TvT with that exciting tank placement, I mean everyone loves seeing players just gain positions, am I right?

or how about that ZvZ, aww yeah baneling micro so exciting!

PvP best mirror, I guess some people don't like seeing intense micro though.


Are you kidding me? PvP is the worst mirror.


Sir, did you not read my entire post? Because the last part then obviously applies to you:
I guess some people don't like seeing intense micro though.


I don't think TvT is only about tank placement, because there is so much you can do in a TvT. Tho there were a lot of tanks in the Kas vs. ThorZAIN games. I did however like that series much better then this.

TvT - Best mirror matchup
PvP - 2nd
ZvZ is so boring......


ZvZ is not boring if you play Zerg and know the matchup well, it's one of my favourite matchups to watch and it's probably the hardest matchup to play
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
May 08 2011 19:55 GMT
#2620
The 4 gate play being too strong compared to all other pvp builds is pretty obvious. But that's also the reason why Blizzard is trying to address it in the next patch. All mirror match-ups are obviously less exciting then normal match ups. But as far as the game goes... mirrors between all races are the most technical and mechanic heavy. So please, don't hate the players.

As far as TSL3 goes I'm pretty happy with a 100% swedish final. First of all there should be no lag discussion at all, which is awesome. Secondly its the best that could happened since there wasn't any zerg players left.



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