[R&S] EG's Master's Cup Series Season V League - Page 202
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scrubtastic
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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Grantiere
United States129 Posts
Interesting to hear a 1v1 star analyze a 2v2 game. Actually, interesting just to hear a top mind analyze a 2v2 game. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Asshat
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toadyy
United Kingdom179 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:19 1Eris1 wrote: Yes Empire is good, but I think Major, Idra, Kiwi, HuK, Select, etc>>Happy, Nerchio, Kas, etc. Don't see how you could argue this Based on what exactly? The fact you have no clue about how successful most of the empire guys are? Don't see how you can dismiss Happy, Nerchio and Kas by listing a handful of NA players that aren't performing well (apart from maybe idra 4th at mlg v not even in NASL finals). | ||
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dpL
Sweden571 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:46 toadyy wrote: Based on what exactly? The fact you have no clue about how successful most of the empire guys are? Don't see how you can dismiss Happy, Nerchio and Kas by listing a handful of NA players that aren't performing well (apart from maybe idra 4th at mlg v not even in NASL finals). Team Empire needs more exposure, that's their only problem. They have the roster, the talent and all that. We'll see how well they do at DH, either way I hope they attend more events and play more tournaments. They also deserve a spot in team league like this. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:46 toadyy wrote: Based on what exactly? The fact you have no clue about how successful most of the empire guys are? Don't see how you can dismiss Happy, Nerchio and Kas by listing a handful of NA players that aren't performing well (apart from maybe idra 4th at mlg v not even in NASL finals). I agree, there's no way in hell Nerchio isn't equal to (probably better than) the likes of everyone you listed. MajOr is muchly up and coming and hasn't shown major (unintended) success, IdrA is an exception as he is likely the best foreigner but is weak minded, KiWi is performing badly, HuK is living in Korea and not in the same situation as foreign players, SeleCT is performing badly... Empire players haven't been in these big LANs, but to say that they're not at the level of other European teams is a tad foolish. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:19 1Eris1 wrote: Yes Empire is good, but I think Major, Idra, Kiwi, HuK, Select, etc>>Happy, Nerchio, Kas, etc. Don't see how you could argue this Is this post serious? First of all, you list a bunch of players from different teams, and say that those players are better... we are talking about teams here. Saying that HasuObs, Stephano and Select (just as an example, as all of them are in this league) are better than Happy Nerchio and Kas isn't even relevant... Just listing solid players from many team says nothing about a single team. What point were you even trying to get at? Also, "Don't see how you could argue this." Seriously? How is it possible to be that sure that they are better, especially since I am VERY sure you haven't seen much of Nerchio or Happy recently. ...? | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 16 2011 16:07 Chicane wrote: Is this post serious? First of all, you list a bunch of players from different teams, and say that those players are better... we are talking about teams here. Saying that HasuObs, Stephano and Select (just as an example, as all of them are in this league) are better than Happy Nerchio and Kas isn't even relevant... Just listing solid players from many team says nothing about a single team. What point were you even trying to get at? Also, "Don't see how you could argue this." Seriously? How is it possible to be that sure that they are better, especially since I am VERY sure you haven't seen much of Nerchio or Happy recently. ...? I sort of agree, when talking about team leagues it's pretty weird to name a bunch of players who are essentially the Ace's of their respective teams and say, "These guys would likely beat the people on this team". Each individual can only be played once(twice considering ace-match), and I actually do think that Kas, Nerchio and Happy could compete with the players you listed to some extent, I don't think it's inarguable at all. | ||
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KamehameHoe
29 Posts
I would love to seem them on the big stage for once(i know kas has some problems when it comes to offline events). Happy already was a beast in Wc3. He prob had the best micro of all including the koreans. Just check this shit out => | ||
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Juke290
Egypt316 Posts
On June 16 2011 11:12 Redox wrote: Lol I bet even the Dignitas and mouz players would disagree with you. Everyone in europe has huge respect for the Empire guys. Yeah they are not at the big tournaments for various reasons, but that does not make them any less strong. Thanks man. I didnt say they didnt respect them, don't misunderstand me, empire is a good, solid team, but they are simply not as good as dignitas & mouz, both of those teams are superior to empire, but empire is definetely a top european/foreign team, just not at the level of dignitas/mouz. | ||
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halvorg
Norway717 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + player.........Series won-Series lost EG.Idra 7-1 FnaticMSI.Sen 4-0 sixjax.ViBe 5-1 ROOT.KiWiKaKi 5-2 mouz.Strelok mouz.ThorZaIN 3-1 mouz.MaNa 4-2 mouz.Morrow 4-2 Dignitas.SeleCt 4-2 sixjax.Skew 1-0 Mill.Tarson 2-1 FnaticMSI.KawaiiRice 2-1 FnaticMSI.TT1 3-2 FnaticMSI.NightEnd 3-2 MYM.SaSe 4-3 sixjax.MajOr 4-3 mouz.HasuObs 1-1 Mill.DieStar 1-1 Dignitas.Naniwa 1-1 coL.Drewbie 1-1 coL.CatZ 1-1 MYM.Xlord 1-1-------------- Dignitas.SjoW 3-4 coL.Minigun 2-3 FnaticMSI.Fenix 2-3 EG.DeMusliM 2-3 sixjax.DDE 2-3 EG.Axslav 2-3 MYM.ParanOid 1-2 MYM.Mondragon 1-2 coL.CrunCher 0-1 EG.iNcontroL 0-1 EG.StrifeCro 0-1 Dignitas.BlinG 0-1 Dignitas.merz 0-1 Dignitas.KilleR 0-1 Mill.Stephano 2-4 Mill.Adelscott 2-4 Mill.LaLuSh 1-3 coL.Destiny 0-2 Dignitas.Bischu 0-2 ROOT.Slush 0-2 sixjax.cocoA 0-2 MYM.ClouD 2-5Obviously you shouldn't read too much into it : ) if you see any mistakes let me know. | ||
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kAra
Germany1392 Posts
On June 16 2011 12:10 1Eris1 wrote: Wow, Catz beating Tarson was a big upset imo. And lol, p/z in 2v2 = / p/z is acutally pretty strong in 2x2 . . . | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On June 16 2011 17:58 halvorg wrote: Up to date induvidual player perfomance including ace matches, excluding 2v2s. + Show Spoiler + player.........Series won-Series lost EG.Idra 7-1 FnaticMSI.Sen 4-0 sixjax.ViBe 5-1 ROOT.KiWiKaKi 5-2 mouz.Strelok mouz.ThorZaIN 3-1 mouz.MaNa 4-2 mouz.Morrow 4-2 Dignitas.SeleCt 4-2 sixjax.Skew 1-0 Mill.Tarson 2-1 FnaticMSI.KawaiiRice 2-1 FnaticMSI.TT1 3-2 FnaticMSI.NightEnd 3-2 MYM.SaSe 4-3 sixjax.MajOr 4-3 mouz.HasuObs 1-1 Mill.DieStar 1-1 Dignitas.Naniwa 1-1 coL.Drewbie 1-1 coL.CatZ 1-1 MYM.Xlord 1-1-------------- Dignitas.SjoW 3-4 coL.Minigun 2-3 FnaticMSI.Fenix 2-3 EG.DeMusliM 2-3 sixjax.DDE 2-3 EG.Axslav 2-3 MYM.ParanOid 1-2 MYM.Mondragon 1-2 coL.CrunCher 0-1 EG.iNcontroL 0-1 EG.StrifeCro 0-1 Dignitas.BlinG 0-1 Dignitas.merz 0-1 Dignitas.KilleR 0-1 Mill.Stephano 2-4 Mill.Adelscott 2-4 Mill.LaLuSh 1-3 coL.Destiny 0-2 Dignitas.Bischu 0-2 ROOT.Slush 0-2 sixjax.cocoA 0-2 MYM.ClouD 2-5Obviously you shouldn't read too much into it : ) if you see any mistakes let me know. Idra really is the EG work horse.... | ||
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EG.Idra 7-1
ROOT.KiWiKaKi 5-2
mouz.Strelok