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scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
June 16 2011 03:20 GMT
#4021
For all the hate thrown at cruncher he is very proficient with his blink micro, that worked out
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 16 2011 03:20 GMT
#4022
Cruncher and Diestar are long lost twins?
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 03:20:38
June 16 2011 03:20 GMT
#4023
nvm wrong thread
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
June 16 2011 03:22 GMT
#4024
Love the team league!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Grantiere
Profile Joined March 2011
United States129 Posts
June 16 2011 03:25 GMT
#4025
Oh snap, now even idra's laptop is no gg-ing out of a cast!

Interesting to hear a 1v1 star analyze a 2v2 game. Actually, interesting just to hear a top mind analyze a 2v2 game.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 16 2011 03:31 GMT
#4026
Colbi can you please either ask the players to use skype/vent instead of in-game chat or do something to blur the chat area? It spoils the game as soon as you see one team speaking on allied chat because that chat is only saved if you upload the replay from their view.
Hi.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 16 2011 03:32 GMT
#4027
mill wins 3-1
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
June 16 2011 03:33 GMT
#4028
Tank+Infestor+Broodlord just looks so scary
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
June 16 2011 03:35 GMT
#4029
Next time don't have the replay with the chat. It gives away who wins.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
June 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#4030
I disagree, even though it gives away who wins it's very interesting to see what's going on the mind of the players as they played the game.
toadyy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom179 Posts
June 16 2011 03:46 GMT
#4031
On June 16 2011 11:19 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:12 Redox wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:08 SSLPrism wrote:
On June 16 2011 08:18 Mailing wrote:
On June 16 2011 07:46 Bagi wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:17 Quintum_ wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:10 Mailing wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:09 haxard wrote:
they rely on idra so much lol


So?

That's what being an Ace means.

Kiwikaki was the IdrA of ROOT for example

A lot of teams have one


Ya i would have to say most foreign teams have only one S class player, with the rest being a bunch of A and B teamers. Not enough foreign talent at the very top of the pool.

Not really, EG and ROOT seem to be the biggest offenders.

I think teams like Dignitas, Mouz and Empire (why aren't they in this league?!) have solid overall lineups.


Dignitas has naniwa and select

The other teams are European and have a bigger pool of talent too choose from.

If all the top Na teams put out their best players on one Team it would be basically Empire's level >_>

I wish we had more top players


Disagree completely, empire is a solid team, but not at the level of say dignitas & mouz, the top NA players would easily be a better team than them with players like Major, Idra & Kiwikaki.

Lol I bet even the Dignitas and mouz players would disagree with you.
Everyone in europe has huge respect for the Empire guys. Yeah they are not at the big tournaments for various reasons, but that does not make them any less strong.

On June 16 2011 11:11 halvorg wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:10 Redox wrote:
Can anyone recap the results so far?


Diestar 2-0 minigun
Stephano 2-0 cruncher

Thanks man.



Yes Empire is good, but I think Major, Idra, Kiwi, HuK, Select, etc>>Happy, Nerchio, Kas, etc. Don't see how you could argue this

Based on what exactly? The fact you have no clue about how successful most of the empire guys are? Don't see how you can dismiss Happy, Nerchio and Kas by listing a handful of NA players that aren't performing well (apart from maybe idra 4th at mlg v not even in NASL finals).
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
June 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#4032
On June 16 2011 12:46 toadyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:19 1Eris1 wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:12 Redox wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:08 SSLPrism wrote:
On June 16 2011 08:18 Mailing wrote:
On June 16 2011 07:46 Bagi wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:17 Quintum_ wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:10 Mailing wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:09 haxard wrote:
they rely on idra so much lol


So?

That's what being an Ace means.

Kiwikaki was the IdrA of ROOT for example

A lot of teams have one


Ya i would have to say most foreign teams have only one S class player, with the rest being a bunch of A and B teamers. Not enough foreign talent at the very top of the pool.

Not really, EG and ROOT seem to be the biggest offenders.

I think teams like Dignitas, Mouz and Empire (why aren't they in this league?!) have solid overall lineups.


Dignitas has naniwa and select

The other teams are European and have a bigger pool of talent too choose from.

If all the top Na teams put out their best players on one Team it would be basically Empire's level >_>

I wish we had more top players


Disagree completely, empire is a solid team, but not at the level of say dignitas & mouz, the top NA players would easily be a better team than them with players like Major, Idra & Kiwikaki.

Lol I bet even the Dignitas and mouz players would disagree with you.
Everyone in europe has huge respect for the Empire guys. Yeah they are not at the big tournaments for various reasons, but that does not make them any less strong.

On June 16 2011 11:11 halvorg wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:10 Redox wrote:
Can anyone recap the results so far?


Diestar 2-0 minigun
Stephano 2-0 cruncher

Thanks man.



Yes Empire is good, but I think Major, Idra, Kiwi, HuK, Select, etc>>Happy, Nerchio, Kas, etc. Don't see how you could argue this

Based on what exactly? The fact you have no clue about how successful most of the empire guys are? Don't see how you can dismiss Happy, Nerchio and Kas by listing a handful of NA players that aren't performing well (apart from maybe idra 4th at mlg v not even in NASL finals).

Team Empire needs more exposure, that's their only problem. They have the roster, the talent and all that. We'll see how well they do at DH, either way I hope they attend more events and play more tournaments. They also deserve a spot in team league like this.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
June 16 2011 06:45 GMT
#4033
On June 16 2011 12:46 toadyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:19 1Eris1 wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:12 Redox wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:08 SSLPrism wrote:
On June 16 2011 08:18 Mailing wrote:
On June 16 2011 07:46 Bagi wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:17 Quintum_ wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:10 Mailing wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:09 haxard wrote:
they rely on idra so much lol


So?

That's what being an Ace means.

Kiwikaki was the IdrA of ROOT for example

A lot of teams have one


Ya i would have to say most foreign teams have only one S class player, with the rest being a bunch of A and B teamers. Not enough foreign talent at the very top of the pool.

Not really, EG and ROOT seem to be the biggest offenders.

I think teams like Dignitas, Mouz and Empire (why aren't they in this league?!) have solid overall lineups.


Dignitas has naniwa and select

The other teams are European and have a bigger pool of talent too choose from.

If all the top Na teams put out their best players on one Team it would be basically Empire's level >_>

I wish we had more top players


Disagree completely, empire is a solid team, but not at the level of say dignitas & mouz, the top NA players would easily be a better team than them with players like Major, Idra & Kiwikaki.

Lol I bet even the Dignitas and mouz players would disagree with you.
Everyone in europe has huge respect for the Empire guys. Yeah they are not at the big tournaments for various reasons, but that does not make them any less strong.

On June 16 2011 11:11 halvorg wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:10 Redox wrote:
Can anyone recap the results so far?


Diestar 2-0 minigun
Stephano 2-0 cruncher

Thanks man.



Yes Empire is good, but I think Major, Idra, Kiwi, HuK, Select, etc>>Happy, Nerchio, Kas, etc. Don't see how you could argue this

Based on what exactly? The fact you have no clue about how successful most of the empire guys are? Don't see how you can dismiss Happy, Nerchio and Kas by listing a handful of NA players that aren't performing well (apart from maybe idra 4th at mlg v not even in NASL finals).


I agree, there's no way in hell Nerchio isn't equal to (probably better than) the likes of everyone you listed. MajOr is muchly up and coming and hasn't shown major (unintended) success, IdrA is an exception as he is likely the best foreigner but is weak minded, KiWi is performing badly, HuK is living in Korea and not in the same situation as foreign players, SeleCT is performing badly...

Empire players haven't been in these big LANs, but to say that they're not at the level of other European teams is a tad foolish.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 16 2011 07:07 GMT
#4034
On June 16 2011 11:19 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:12 Redox wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:08 SSLPrism wrote:
On June 16 2011 08:18 Mailing wrote:
On June 16 2011 07:46 Bagi wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:17 Quintum_ wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:10 Mailing wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:09 haxard wrote:
they rely on idra so much lol


So?

That's what being an Ace means.

Kiwikaki was the IdrA of ROOT for example

A lot of teams have one


Ya i would have to say most foreign teams have only one S class player, with the rest being a bunch of A and B teamers. Not enough foreign talent at the very top of the pool.

Not really, EG and ROOT seem to be the biggest offenders.

I think teams like Dignitas, Mouz and Empire (why aren't they in this league?!) have solid overall lineups.


Dignitas has naniwa and select

The other teams are European and have a bigger pool of talent too choose from.

If all the top Na teams put out their best players on one Team it would be basically Empire's level >_>

I wish we had more top players


Disagree completely, empire is a solid team, but not at the level of say dignitas & mouz, the top NA players would easily be a better team than them with players like Major, Idra & Kiwikaki.

Lol I bet even the Dignitas and mouz players would disagree with you.
Everyone in europe has huge respect for the Empire guys. Yeah they are not at the big tournaments for various reasons, but that does not make them any less strong.

On June 16 2011 11:11 halvorg wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:10 Redox wrote:
Can anyone recap the results so far?


Diestar 2-0 minigun
Stephano 2-0 cruncher

Thanks man.



Yes Empire is good, but I think Major, Idra, Kiwi, HuK, Select, etc>>Happy, Nerchio, Kas, etc. Don't see how you could argue this


Is this post serious? First of all, you list a bunch of players from different teams, and say that those players are better... we are talking about teams here. Saying that HasuObs, Stephano and Select (just as an example, as all of them are in this league) are better than Happy Nerchio and Kas isn't even relevant... Just listing solid players from many team says nothing about a single team. What point were you even trying to get at?

Also, "Don't see how you could argue this." Seriously? How is it possible to be that sure that they are better, especially since I am VERY sure you haven't seen much of Nerchio or Happy recently.

...?
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 16 2011 07:16 GMT
#4035
On June 16 2011 16:07 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:19 1Eris1 wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:12 Redox wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:08 SSLPrism wrote:
On June 16 2011 08:18 Mailing wrote:
On June 16 2011 07:46 Bagi wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:17 Quintum_ wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:10 Mailing wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:09 haxard wrote:
they rely on idra so much lol


So?

That's what being an Ace means.

Kiwikaki was the IdrA of ROOT for example

A lot of teams have one


Ya i would have to say most foreign teams have only one S class player, with the rest being a bunch of A and B teamers. Not enough foreign talent at the very top of the pool.

Not really, EG and ROOT seem to be the biggest offenders.

I think teams like Dignitas, Mouz and Empire (why aren't they in this league?!) have solid overall lineups.


Dignitas has naniwa and select

The other teams are European and have a bigger pool of talent too choose from.

If all the top Na teams put out their best players on one Team it would be basically Empire's level >_>

I wish we had more top players


Disagree completely, empire is a solid team, but not at the level of say dignitas & mouz, the top NA players would easily be a better team than them with players like Major, Idra & Kiwikaki.

Lol I bet even the Dignitas and mouz players would disagree with you.
Everyone in europe has huge respect for the Empire guys. Yeah they are not at the big tournaments for various reasons, but that does not make them any less strong.

On June 16 2011 11:11 halvorg wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:10 Redox wrote:
Can anyone recap the results so far?


Diestar 2-0 minigun
Stephano 2-0 cruncher

Thanks man.



Yes Empire is good, but I think Major, Idra, Kiwi, HuK, Select, etc>>Happy, Nerchio, Kas, etc. Don't see how you could argue this


Is this post serious? First of all, you list a bunch of players from different teams, and say that those players are better... we are talking about teams here. Saying that HasuObs, Stephano and Select (just as an example, as all of them are in this league) are better than Happy Nerchio and Kas isn't even relevant... Just listing solid players from many team says nothing about a single team. What point were you even trying to get at?

Also, "Don't see how you could argue this." Seriously? How is it possible to be that sure that they are better, especially since I am VERY sure you haven't seen much of Nerchio or Happy recently.

...?


I sort of agree, when talking about team leagues it's pretty weird to name a bunch of players who are essentially the Ace's of their respective teams and say, "These guys would likely beat the people on this team". Each individual can only be played once(twice considering ace-match), and I actually do think that Kas, Nerchio and Happy could compete with the players you listed to some extent, I don't think it's inarguable at all.
KamehameHoe
Profile Joined December 2010
29 Posts
June 16 2011 07:34 GMT
#4036
Happy Kas and Nerchio very well may be the most feared players on EU Server. They are dominating weekly cups they attend on a regular basis.

I would love to seem them on the big stage for once(i know kas has some problems when it comes to offline events).

Happy already was a beast in Wc3. He prob had the best micro of all including the koreans.

Just check this shit out =>
Juke290
Profile Joined March 2011
Egypt316 Posts
June 16 2011 07:35 GMT
#4037
On June 16 2011 11:12 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:08 SSLPrism wrote:
On June 16 2011 08:18 Mailing wrote:
On June 16 2011 07:46 Bagi wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:17 Quintum_ wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:10 Mailing wrote:
On June 15 2011 13:09 haxard wrote:
they rely on idra so much lol


So?

That's what being an Ace means.

Kiwikaki was the IdrA of ROOT for example

A lot of teams have one


Ya i would have to say most foreign teams have only one S class player, with the rest being a bunch of A and B teamers. Not enough foreign talent at the very top of the pool.

Not really, EG and ROOT seem to be the biggest offenders.

I think teams like Dignitas, Mouz and Empire (why aren't they in this league?!) have solid overall lineups.


Dignitas has naniwa and select

The other teams are European and have a bigger pool of talent too choose from.

If all the top Na teams put out their best players on one Team it would be basically Empire's level >_>

I wish we had more top players


Disagree completely, empire is a solid team, but not at the level of say dignitas & mouz, the top NA players would easily be a better team than them with players like Major, Idra & Kiwikaki.

Lol I bet even the Dignitas and mouz players would disagree with you.
Everyone in europe has huge respect for the Empire guys. Yeah they are not at the big tournaments for various reasons, but that does not make them any less strong.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:11 halvorg wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:10 Redox wrote:
Can anyone recap the results so far?


Diestar 2-0 minigun
Stephano 2-0 cruncher

Thanks man.



I didnt say they didnt respect them, don't misunderstand me, empire is a good, solid team, but they are simply not as good as dignitas & mouz, both of those teams are superior to empire, but empire is definetely a top european/foreign team, just not at the level of dignitas/mouz.
halvorg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Norway717 Posts
June 16 2011 08:58 GMT
#4038
Up to date induvidual player perfomance including ace matches, excluding 2v2s.
+ Show Spoiler +

player.........Series won-Series lost
EG.Idra 7-1
FnaticMSI.Sen 4-0
sixjax.ViBe 5-1
ROOT.KiWiKaKi 5-2
mouz.Strelok 2-0
mouz.ThorZaIN 3-1
mouz.MaNa 4-2
mouz.Morrow 4-2
Dignitas.SeleCt 4-2
sixjax.Skew 1-0
Mill.Tarson 2-1
FnaticMSI.KawaiiRice 2-1
FnaticMSI.TT1 3-2
FnaticMSI.NightEnd 3-2
MYM.SaSe 4-3
sixjax.MajOr 4-3
mouz.HasuObs 1-1
Mill.DieStar 1-1
Dignitas.Naniwa 1-1
coL.Drewbie 1-1
coL.CatZ 1-1
MYM.Xlord 1-1
--------------
Dignitas.SjoW 3-4
coL.Minigun 2-3
FnaticMSI.Fenix 2-3
EG.DeMusliM 2-3
sixjax.DDE 2-3
EG.Axslav 2-3
MYM.ParanOid 1-2
MYM.Mondragon 1-2
coL.CrunCher 0-1
EG.iNcontroL 0-1
EG.StrifeCro 0-1
Dignitas.BlinG 0-1
Dignitas.merz 0-1
Dignitas.KilleR 0-1
Mill.Stephano 2-4
Mill.Adelscott 2-4
Mill.LaLuSh 1-3
coL.Destiny 0-2
Dignitas.Bischu 0-2
ROOT.Slush 0-2
sixjax.cocoA 0-2
MYM.ClouD 2-5

Obviously you shouldn't read too much into it : )

if you see any mistakes let me know.
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1437 Posts
June 16 2011 09:19 GMT
#4039
On June 16 2011 12:10 1Eris1 wrote:
Wow, Catz beating Tarson was a big upset imo.
And lol, p/z in 2v2 = /


p/z is acutally pretty strong in 2x2 . . .
mada mada dane
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
June 16 2011 09:35 GMT
#4040
On June 16 2011 17:58 halvorg wrote:
Up to date induvidual player perfomance including ace matches, excluding 2v2s.
+ Show Spoiler +

player.........Series won-Series lost
EG.Idra 7-1
FnaticMSI.Sen 4-0
sixjax.ViBe 5-1
ROOT.KiWiKaKi 5-2
mouz.Strelok 2-0
mouz.ThorZaIN 3-1
mouz.MaNa 4-2
mouz.Morrow 4-2
Dignitas.SeleCt 4-2
sixjax.Skew 1-0
Mill.Tarson 2-1
FnaticMSI.KawaiiRice 2-1
FnaticMSI.TT1 3-2
FnaticMSI.NightEnd 3-2
MYM.SaSe 4-3
sixjax.MajOr 4-3
mouz.HasuObs 1-1
Mill.DieStar 1-1
Dignitas.Naniwa 1-1
coL.Drewbie 1-1
coL.CatZ 1-1
MYM.Xlord 1-1
--------------
Dignitas.SjoW 3-4
coL.Minigun 2-3
FnaticMSI.Fenix 2-3
EG.DeMusliM 2-3
sixjax.DDE 2-3
EG.Axslav 2-3
MYM.ParanOid 1-2
MYM.Mondragon 1-2
coL.CrunCher 0-1
EG.iNcontroL 0-1
EG.StrifeCro 0-1
Dignitas.BlinG 0-1
Dignitas.merz 0-1
Dignitas.KilleR 0-1
Mill.Stephano 2-4
Mill.Adelscott 2-4
Mill.LaLuSh 1-3
coL.Destiny 0-2
Dignitas.Bischu 0-2
ROOT.Slush 0-2
sixjax.cocoA 0-2
MYM.ClouD 2-5

Obviously you shouldn't read too much into it : )

if you see any mistakes let me know.

Idra really is the EG work horse....
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