EPTEither way, GG MILL!
BTW COL, Great new lineup, better luck next week!
[R&S] EG's Master's Cup Series Season V League - Page 203
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
Either way, GG MILL! BTW COL, Great new lineup, better luck next week! | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On June 17 2011 00:20 Dandel Ion wrote: col should just go with Catz + Drewbie as a 2v2 team, that's what they're really good at. Doubt Drewbie was available to play seeing as he wasn't put in for the 1v1s. Mill is very good, dunno if they're the best team in the league player-wise, but still very impressive. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
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toadyy
United Kingdom179 Posts
On June 16 2011 16:35 SSLPrism wrote: I didnt say they didnt respect them, don't misunderstand me, empire is a good, solid team, but they are simply not as good as dignitas & mouz, both of those teams are superior to empire, but empire is definetely a top european/foreign team, just not at the level of dignitas/mouz. But what are you basing these stupid claims on, all you are saying is "yea they are just not better". Nerchio destroyed MorroW and Thorzain just last week Mouz two best players. Empire have played no team leagues at all. So concluding they are not as good like you have done is just stupid. Mouz and Dignitas are superior to IM and SlayerS because they have never played in a masters cup also herpderphpdperpphperpdperp | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On June 17 2011 01:00 toadyy wrote: But what are you basing these stupid claims on, all you are saying is "yea they are just not better". Nerchio destroyed MorroW and Thorzain just last week Mouz two best players. Empire have played no team leagues at all. So concluding they are not as good like you have done is just stupid. Mouz and Dignitas are superior to IM and SlayerS because they have never played in a masters cup also herpderphpdperpphperpdperp Actuall Empire plays in iP Team League 2. Link to it HERE Sadly no one is streaming it in english | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On June 16 2011 16:34 KamehameHoe wrote: Happy Kas and Nerchio very well may be the most feared players on EU Server. They are dominating weekly cups they attend on a regular basis. I would love to seem them on the big stage for once(i know kas has some problems when it comes to offline events). Happy already was a beast in Wc3. He prob had the best micro of all including the koreans. Just check this shit out => Getting sick to death of people posting that micro video. Congrats he can do marine splitting, it is one portion of the game and if your decision making, build order/strategy, macro aren't up to par then it is kind of irrelevant. I'm sure Nerchio and Happy are amazing, but frankly only Kas of Empire has shown anything so far (Copenhagen and TSL qualify + placing). The other 2 need to give a performance at a major event (normally LAN, but large online tournament like TSL is good proof too) before we can say they're good. Yes, ladder is indicative but not everything, and smaller tournaments such as weekly cups only say that they're good at that style of competition (where it is even questionable whether the other players entering are any good, or try at all). | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On June 17 2011 01:47 bennyaus wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 16 2011 16:34 KamehameHoe wrote: Happy Kas and Nerchio very well may be the most feared players on EU Server. They are dominating weekly cups they attend on a regular basis. I would love to seem them on the big stage for once(i know kas has some problems when it comes to offline events). Happy already was a beast in Wc3. He prob had the best micro of all including the koreans. Just check this shit out => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGJP0BgvUPA&feature=player_embedded Getting sick to death of people posting that micro video. Congrats he can do marine splitting, it is one portion of the game and if your decision making, build order/strategy, macro aren't up to par then it is kind of irrelevant. I'm sure Nerchio and Happy are amazing, but frankly only Kas of Empire has shown anything so far (Copenhagen and TSL qualify + placing). The other 2 need to give a performance at a major event (normally LAN, but large online tournament like TSL is good proof too) before we can say they're good. Yes, ladder is indicative but not everything, and smaller tournaments such as weekly cups only say that they're good at that style of competition (where it is even questionable whether the other players entering are any good, or try at all). All i can say.... Enjoy reading http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=233718 | ||
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aphorism
United States226 Posts
On June 17 2011 01:50 Frankon wrote: All i can say.... Enjoy reading http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=233718 As far as major events go, I'd like to draw attention to Empire's results at the ESL dailymotion cup and the Shoutcraft invitational, both of which featured other great European players (e.g. White-ra, Strelok) | ||
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toadyy
United Kingdom179 Posts
On June 17 2011 01:47 bennyaus wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 16 2011 16:34 KamehameHoe wrote: Happy Kas and Nerchio very well may be the most feared players on EU Server. They are dominating weekly cups they attend on a regular basis. I would love to seem them on the big stage for once(i know kas has some problems when it comes to offline events). Happy already was a beast in Wc3. He prob had the best micro of all including the koreans. Just check this shit out => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGJP0BgvUPA&feature=player_embedded Getting sick to death of people posting that micro video. Congrats he can do marine splitting, it is one portion of the game and if your decision making, build order/strategy, macro aren't up to par then it is kind of irrelevant. I'm sure Nerchio and Happy are amazing, but frankly only Kas of Empire has shown anything so far (Copenhagen and TSL qualify + placing). The other 2 need to give a performance at a major event (normally LAN, but large online tournament like TSL is good proof too) before we can say they're good. Yes, ladder is indicative but not everything, and smaller tournaments such as weekly cups only say that they're good at that style of competition (where it is even questionable whether the other players entering are any good, or try at all). European daily and weekly cups are a great indication of how well someone is playing. Because the level of competition is always extremely high, the top European players are actually competing in a lot of them. I wish some NA players would take the time to compete in some of the European cups because I don't see anything on a daily / weekly basis on NA that rivals the level of competition top European players get almost everyday. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 17 2011 06:32 toadyy wrote: European daily and weekly cups are a great indication of how well someone is playing. Because the level of competition is always extremely high, the top European players are actually competing in a lot of them. I wish some NA players would take the time to compete in some of the European cups because I don't see anything on a daily / weekly basis on NA that rivals the level of competition top European players get almost everyday. I think since a lot of stuff is midweek it's a bit hard for NA guys to get on in time. Also on the weekend there are some NA stuff isn't there? | ||
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TeMiL
Peru545 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On June 16 2011 16:07 Chicane wrote: Is this post serious? First of all, you list a bunch of players from different teams, and say that those players are better... we are talking about teams here. Saying that HasuObs, Stephano and Select (just as an example, as all of them are in this league) are better than Happy Nerchio and Kas isn't even relevant... Just listing solid players from many team says nothing about a single team. What point were you even trying to get at? Also, "Don't see how you could argue this." Seriously? How is it possible to be that sure that they are better, especially since I am VERY sure you haven't seen much of Nerchio or Happy recently. ...? Um I was referring to a post where someone said that Empire>>the top players in NA. Try to read what I'm quoting before you jump off on my post. And I'm not arguing Major>Happy, Select>Kas, Idra>Nerchio etc. I was arguing that the top NA players>the team of Empire. If you seriously think that Kas/Happy/Nerchio is enough to put Empire over the pinnacle of NA then you need to watch more NA play. Yes Europe is better, but not that better. Try to read the whole argument before you attack one post | ||
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
On June 17 2011 06:46 TeMiL wrote: whre is the information about Season IV, III, etc? The Master's cup is a tournament series. There have been 2 SC2 1vs.1, 1 Quake Live and 1 CS tournament. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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ROOTCatZ
Peru1238 Posts
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toadyy
United Kingdom179 Posts
On June 17 2011 06:53 1Eris1 wrote: Um I was referring to a post where someone said that Empire>>the top players in NA. Try to read what I'm quoting before you jump off on my post. And I'm not arguing Major>Happy, Select>Kas, Idra>Nerchio etc. I was arguing that the top NA players>the team of Empire. If you seriously think that Kas/Happy/Nerchio is enough to put Empire over the pinnacle of NA then you need to watch more NA play. Yes Europe is better, but not that better. Try to read the whole argument before you attack one post Well if we are talking about top NA players that are actually performing well recently then yes almost certainly Empire>Top NA players. Name me a NA player that is currently playing up to and beyond peoples expectations. The only NA player that has impressed me this month is dde. | ||
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Nerdslayer
Denmark1130 Posts
On June 17 2011 07:31 toadyy wrote: Well if we are talking about top NA players that are actually performing well recently then yes almost certainly Empire>Top NA players. Name me a NA player that is currently playing up to and beyond peoples expectations. The only NA player that has impressed me this month is dde. I agree DDE is very good atm, he has impressed me alot. | ||
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Alexl
288 Posts
On June 16 2011 18:42 Steelavocado wrote: Holy guacamole (see what I did there)! Gratz MILL for taking down the new COL lineup. Hopefully stephano can participate in more and more tournys, however, the rate he wins tournies/improves depends on his school effort?(dont quote me on that). Either way, GG MILL! BTW COL, Great new lineup, better luck next week! He's in med school (not as hardcore as US med school but still) so he obviously has less to devote to the game during exam periods such as now (which is why he had to skip dreamhack because he has exams on the following monday). The period where he won 3 or 4 go4sc2s ect was when he didn't havemuch going on and put his studies aside a bit. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On June 12 2011 13:51 Colbi wrote: Updated OP with the results from Millenium vs. MYM and Dignitas vs. ROOT. I apologize for the delay. Disappointing that the new 2v2 specialists from MYM immediately lose their first game. >_> | ||
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