EPTIGN Pro League Season Two - Page 44
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
Silvanel
Poland4704 Posts
| ||
|
Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
hahahahahaha... man, this is hilarious. | ||
|
Tech0
Bulgaria44 Posts
Respect to IPL and its organizers/sponsors | ||
|
soul5
Germany33 Posts
On July 15 2011 02:58 Tech0 wrote: The Starcraft2 community needs tournaments like IPL(without Koreans). Thumbs up for the tournament and the prize money. GL to White-Ra, Axslav and Idra. Respect to IPL and its organizers/sponsors Select is Korean dude. | ||
|
TuxThePenguin
32 Posts
| ||
|
IPA
United States3206 Posts
On July 15 2011 02:58 Tech0 wrote: The Starcraft2 community needs tournaments like IPL(without Koreans). Thumbs up for the tournament and the prize money. GL to White-Ra, Axslav and Idra. Respect to IPL and its organizers/sponsors Couldn't disagree more. In order to be the best, we have to beat the best. The attitude you expressed comes across as weak to me. Would you want all african americans out of the NBA so that the white dudes could showcase their middle-class skills? Still, IPL is amazing. Will be watching live tonight. GOGO IdrA! | ||
|
cybertopo
Spain525 Posts
On July 15 2011 03:13 IPA wrote: Couldn't disagree more. In order to be the best, we have to beat the best. The attitude you expressed comes across as weak to me. Would you want all african americans out of the NBA so that the white dudes could showcase their middle-class skills? ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Wg6aUKXC6KY/TDH4RxtDlwI/AAAAAAAABJU/Sg7lQMXzn8g/s1600/nowitzki_300_060125.jpg) Also, I agree with you | ||
|
RogerChillingworth
2827 Posts
| ||
|
puzzl
United States263 Posts
| ||
|
Pugget
United States212 Posts
On July 15 2011 03:13 IPA wrote: Couldn't disagree more. In order to be the best, we have to beat the best. The attitude you expressed comes across as weak to me. Would you want all african americans out of the NBA so that the white dudes could showcase their middle-class skills? Still, IPL is amazing. Will be watching live tonight. GOGO IdrA! I find this attitude to be missing the point a bit. Everyone in the IPL, no doubt, wants to be able to beat the best. I'm sure that's a goal of everyone involved. However, when developing a skill, be it music, sports, writing, whatever, it often helps to work and play with people at similar levels to yourself AS WELL as those who are better. They offer different types of environments to improve, both necessary for anyone serious about making a career out of a competitive skill. I know of no competitor who didn't come up through the ranks, working at multiple levels at once to get better. The "hit your head against a wall" approach, where the wall are the Koreans, is not helpful. I want to see a vibrant American scene, and it seems IGN understands how to built just that. This isn't about racism, or classism, it's about skill level. Just like it makes sense to have women-only tourneys, it makes sense to havre NA/EURO only tourneys. There are already plenty of tourneys that allow all players to come and compete. | ||
|
Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
| ||
IGNProLeague
1184 Posts
On July 15 2011 03:48 puzzl wrote: What's with the rigged brackets? Why are people so deathly afraid of mirror matchups? They are a third of the game. Yuck. If you want to seed the top 4 players from last tournament, fine, but the rest of the people should be randomly distributed, not hand chosen like this. They were seeded in, there was no hand choosing! | ||
|
Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
On July 15 2011 04:07 IGNProLeague wrote: They were seeded in, there was no hand choosing! People starts to suspect things if everything goes too well  | ||
|
oDDable
United States54 Posts
| ||
|
Jtn
444 Posts
| ||
|
Pugget
United States212 Posts
| ||
|
KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
| ||
|
Lowell
Germany346 Posts
On July 15 2011 03:48 Pugget wrote: I find this attitude to be missing the point a bit. Everyone in the IPL, no doubt, wants to be able to beat the best. I'm sure that's a goal of everyone involved. However, when developing a skill, be it music, sports, writing, whatever, it often helps to work and play with people at similar levels to yourself AS WELL as those who are better. They offer different types of environments to improve, both necessary for anyone serious about making a career out of a competitive skill. I know of no competitor who didn't come up through the ranks, working at multiple levels at once to get better. The "hit your head against a wall" approach, where the wall are the Koreans, is not helpful. I want to see a vibrant American scene, and it seems IGN understands how to built just that. This isn't about racism, or classism, it's about skill level. Just like it makes sense to have women-only tourneys, it makes sense to havre NA/EURO only tourneys. There are already plenty of tourneys that allow all players to come and compete. A tournament is supposed to find the best player, not to help anyone improve, that is what practise is for. I could understand a "only americans because its an american tournament" approach, but "everyone but koreans, because they are better and some people want to see white dudes win" is stupid. | ||
|
Pugget
United States212 Posts
On July 15 2011 05:06 Lowell wrote: A tournament is supposed to find the best player, not to help anyone improve, that is what practise is for. I could understand a "only americans because its an american tournament" approach, but "everyone but koreans, because they are better and some people want to see white dudes win" is stupid. The best player within a particular context, yes. But, amazing as it may be to some, there are many tournaments that have other goals besides just finding the best player. I thought the interview with the people behind the IPL made it fairly clear they are playing a more layered game than just "trying to find the best player." | ||
|
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
| ||
| ||
