EPT[GSL May] Code S ro32 Day 4 - Page 123
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deerpark87
760 Posts
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
On April 27 2011 09:02 psycroptic wrote: i know that the people basically calling huk bad have never watched his stream and dont know anything about him. he's damn good. he just chokes, every single time. This. Yeah, yeah ladder and tournaments aren't the same thing but some of his tournament games, his play looks questionable. It's 100% nerves or being uncomfortable in the booth. This isn't an excuse for him, obviously he's going to have to get used to playing in the spotlight against top tier players if he wants to really make a splash in Korea. | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
On April 27 2011 04:18 Justanx wrote: Why do we have to be nice to anyone. If you're not a fan of that person. Are major league fans from one city supposed to like the other teams from other cities. Should I cheer on a team that has taunted my team. Just because my team didn't make it to the play- offs. I would hope that other teams loses. Its part of the competition. A player that hypes himself and then can't produce will eventually get bashed. If he does well, then we go back and say hmmmm maybe he is all that and a biscuit. If I am not a fan of that person why can't I hope he crashes and burns. Its a sport. If the PR for that person stinks, then it stinks. The sponsor should rectify it. If the sponsor doesn't get involved then they are the ones losing out. Sponsors are in it to win it. Of course they are here to help the team and sports, but they are the ones that will rise or fall on the back of their players. If their player is doing badly then the manager needs to step in and take charge. That's why they are the managers. For people to say "Why do we keep bashing this player?", I ask you why not. Should we all be a fanboys of everyone. I can't be. If the player we hate does make a amazing rise, why can't we wish for his downfall. This is a growing sport, there has to be good guys and bad guys and winners and losers. So if people want to hate on certain players "Why Not?" If you want to defend your player then "Why not?" But to say don't bash him"He is going through a slump." then he to either needs to sh*** or get of the pot. Not up to us to fire him, but its up to him to realize it and either step it up or find a way out. i.e If I hate Dallas and love the Redskins, why cant I root for anyone that plays against Dallas (its an example) My point in summation, is this, Fans telling other fans not to hate on their player is ridiculous. If they are in the public eye then they will get public scrutiny. If the sponsor allow their players to run around unmuzzled then the team pays. because, you moron, when you hate on players of Starcraft 2, it gets back to them! you can hate on whatever american handegg team you want, the players will never ever hear of it. but if you go into HuK's stream, or the LR for a day he played and insult him, he will see it. and just because football fans are immature, doesnt mean we have to be. By definition, this community is a tight knit one, and trying to create divisions in it through HATE is NOT a GOOD thing! or maybe you weren't aware that hatred = bad? So, I want HuK to win and July to lose, thats fine, so i want to scream GOGO HUK! in the LR, thats fine. But saying 'July is a pathetic sack of shit and didnt deserve that win' or something similar is NOT fine. It's disrespectful, immature and idiotic. so if you want to be one of THOSE people, i request, kindly, that you GTFO until you learn to post with a modicum of respect. that is all | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
On April 27 2011 07:34 sAfuRos wrote: IdrA code S success repeatedly, question mark? And whatever, it doesn't matter who he lost to; Code S is Code S. Thats the level of play of players in Code S. If he can't keep up (and im inclined to say he isn't Code S yet based on those games and recent performance), than he doesn't deserve Code S. idrA was in korea years though. Also, idrA was in Code S before it got as crazy as it is now. Who has he beaten that can be put on the same level as inca's PvP or a Julyzerg? | ||
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Aidagny
13 Posts
IdrA code S success repeatedly, question mark? And whatever, it doesn't matter who he lost to; Code S is Code S. Thats the level of play of players in Code S. If he can't keep up (and im inclined to say he isn't Code S yet based on those games and recent performance), than he doesn't deserve Code S. idrA was in korea years though. Also, idrA was in Code S before it got as crazy as it is now. Who has he beaten that can be put on the same level as inca's PvP or a Julyzerg? In GSL Jan, before he left he 3-0d a group with Nada, Genius and Clide. | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On April 27 2011 09:15 Jayrod wrote: idrA was in korea years though. Also, idrA was in Code S before it got as crazy as it is now. Who has he beaten that can be put on the same level as inca's PvP or a Julyzerg? Ensnare, Check, Nada, Genius, Clide. All reliably Code S standard players. Huk hasn't beaten anyone yet, he actually looked pretty shaky in Code A too. He was really unlucky with his Code S draw no doubt, but lets not pretend he has some god given right to be Code S, because he didn't exactly destroy all before him in Code A. I don't agree that all other foreigners wouldn't make Code S. I think there's quite a few who could definitely make it like White Ra, Dimaga, Naniwa, SeleCT, maybe some others it's really hard to say as people like Kas, Thorzain have looked good on ladder/online tournaments but done nothing of note in LAN's yet. The real top, top players like MC, MVP, MKP, Nestea and July are probably a step above the foreigners right now but the rest of Code S certainly aren't. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On April 27 2011 09:15 Jayrod wrote: idrA was in korea years though. Also, idrA was in Code S before it got as crazy as it is now. Who has he beaten that can be put on the same level as inca's PvP or a Julyzerg? Can you do your own research before putting out blatant lies and baseless statements? Did you forget he 3-0ed Nada/Clide/Genius? | ||
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On April 27 2011 09:15 Jayrod wrote: idrA was in korea years though. Also, idrA was in Code S before it got as crazy as it is now. Who has he beaten that can be put on the same level as inca's PvP or a Julyzerg? And who has HuK beaten? So far in Korea he's 2-0ed a horrible zerg Barely 2-1 a mediocre zerg 0-2ed vs a good Code S zerg 0-2 vs a good pvp protoss 2-1 vs a now Code B player, and one of the games was really lucky for HuK 0-2 vs two Code S players, who are by no means the best players in Code S. | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
I think we undervalue Rain a bit too much here at TL. He is not Finals quality, but he is definitely Code S material, and anything up to ro8 could be possible for him. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Also, though Huk lost both games, I thought he played fairly well. I never expected him to make it out of his group anyway. | ||
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gideel
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Alexl
288 Posts
On April 27 2011 06:08 mrtomjones wrote: Dude... he lost to Inca, a PvP specialist and July, a GSL season finalist who has looked good against the best players in the game. He almost had July beaten and if it was not for that ridiculous FF against Inca that game MIGHT have gone differently. I think you need to wake up.... all the other top foreigners cant even get out of round 1 of code A and he qualified for code S. Sheesh. I hope July makes it to at least round of 4. He is exciting to watch. Considering the best foreigners (except Jinro maybe) haven't actually tries to qualify since Idra (who was successful) I don't see how that means anything. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
Sad times, especially with up/down being so stacked. We could very well see the end of foreigners in Code S. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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svi
405 Posts
On April 27 2011 10:24 Alexl wrote: Considering the best foreigners (except Jinro maybe) haven't actually tries to qualify since Idra (who was successful) I don't see how that means anything. kiwikaki, incontrol, and select are very solid players that failed. ret dropped out of code A. getting code s is a big accomplishment | ||
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-FoX
United States479 Posts
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On April 27 2011 10:24 Alexl wrote: Considering the best foreigners (except Jinro maybe) haven't actually tries to qualify since Idra (who was successful) I don't see how that means anything. I spoke about when they gave them seeds and for those who have tried to qualify. None were able to get through the first round except Huk. Insult him all you wish but he beat players who are very good whether or not they are named MVP or MC or whether it is some lesser known player. Code A has very few rejects anymore. Last I checked Huks win % was about 53% in grand masters league so i would think that is pretty good. Is he top 5 or 10 in the world? Not yet, but he definitely deserves to be in the GSL. And thats not something most foreign players could maintain. | ||
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