• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:30
CET 17:30
KST 01:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)21Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Fantasy's Q&A video BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2621 users

[TSL] Ro8 Day 2 - Page 169

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 167 168 169 170 171 211 Next
Arguing and whining in this thread will be met with the hammer. Please enjoy the games and keep this thread on track!
Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
April 24 2011 20:39 GMT
#3361
On April 25 2011 05:36 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:35 Euronyme wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:33 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:32 Logo2010 wrote:
Forget Zerg remax, Protoss Remax owns


On super late game, the scope of protoss design is much better.

Zerg spends 450 gold on Hatchery + Queen to get larvae

Protoss can get 3 warpgates with same money, warp anywhere on map.


Stop the f*cking whining. Warp gates can't make 25 units at a time.


unless you have 25 warpgates lol lol

yeah... but that costs a lot more than 450 minerals... read the post.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 24 2011 20:39 GMT
#3362
On April 25 2011 05:38 Durp wrote:
Looking likely that it's all euro players in the final.
+ Show Spoiler +
Not to take anything away from those players, but the least effected by lag region has the best representation. I wish someday that starcraft 2 becomes big enough that this tournament is played on lan (lol LAN, the least likely part of this dream)


They're playing on the American servers so doesn't that mean there should be more American players?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 20:40:45
April 24 2011 20:39 GMT
#3363
On April 25 2011 05:35 Golgotha wrote:
what is up with europeans dominating sc2...they so good! Korean-Europe>America, LA, CN


It's really quite simple and I've said it before. Every European currently left in the TSL was a WC 3 pro. What BW was to Korea, WC 3 was to Europe (well, not quite, but it was the most popular RTS eSports in Europe). These players have made the transition beautifully.

Cruncher, the NA player who made it the furthest in this TSL, was also a WC 3 player. That's not to say BW NA/EU players can't compete - it's just that this TSL has been the rise of WC 3 players.
mathemagician1986
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany549 Posts
April 24 2011 20:39 GMT
#3364
On April 25 2011 05:39 Kevan wrote:
4 out of 4 are europeans, 2 out of 4 are swedish.

awesome


naniwa and who's the second swede?
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 20:40:05
April 24 2011 20:39 GMT
#3365
On April 25 2011 05:38 Durp wrote:
Looking likely that it's all euro players in the final.Not to take anything away from those players, but the least effected by lag region has the best representation. I wish someday that starcraft 2 becomes big enough that this tournament is played on lan (lol LAN, the least likely part of this dream)


so you think EU playing on NA server is less lag then NA playing on NA server? :D
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3366
Boxer should go into cloaked banshee for this game.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Sylverin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States480 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3367
On April 25 2011 05:39 Kevan wrote:
4 out of 4 are europeans, 2 out of 4 are swedish.

awesome

Wrong lol 3 out of 4 are euro one is korean and 2 of 4 are swedish

on topic GOOOOOO HASUUUU
Liquid hero <3////Brotoss Protoss!
JAN0L
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland207 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3368
On April 25 2011 05:35 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:33 Apolo wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:30 Mailing wrote:
25 gateways, 3000/3000

could remake his entire army in under a minute :X


Couldn't remake colossus, couldnt remake HT with enough energy for storm, thus, couldnt remake his army in under a minute. That's for zerg.


3/3 gateway units are great vs bio, boxer had no tanks or hellions.


if terran would also have 3/3 it would be the same as there were none(even better for terran since no one upgrades shields and maruders gain also + armor dmg)
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3369
boxer is a very one dimensional player. He goes for fast reator starport with 2medivacs. If he fails to drop, he just expands.Maxes a huge army with 3 ghosts and emps. I can not see him win against protoss unless he plays a different style.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3370
On April 25 2011 05:39 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:37 Beef Noodles wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:35 Euronyme wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:33 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:32 Logo2010 wrote:
Forget Zerg remax, Protoss Remax owns


On super late game, the scope of protoss design is much better.

Zerg spends 450 gold on Hatchery + Queen to get larvae

Protoss can get 3 warpgates with same money, warp anywhere on map.


Stop the f*cking whining. Warp gates can't make 25 units at a time.

Calm down. He's not whining. He making an observation. You have to realize that warpgates give toss a late game advantage, so as zerg/terran you have to plan accordingly

All-in before the game gets to late-game?

maybe lol
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 20:40:53
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3371
On April 25 2011 05:37 Beef Noodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:35 Euronyme wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:33 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:32 Logo2010 wrote:
Forget Zerg remax, Protoss Remax owns


On super late game, the scope of protoss design is much better.

Zerg spends 450 gold on Hatchery + Queen to get larvae

Protoss can get 3 warpgates with same money, warp anywhere on map.


Stop the f*cking whining. Warp gates can't make 25 units at a time.

Calm down. He's not whining. He making an observation. You have to realize that warpgates give toss a late game advantage, so as zerg/terran you have to plan accordingly


toss can make tons of warpgates

Terran can free up supply for army by building orbitals and using only mules to mine minerals

Zerg can pool tons of larva

the bitching about Protoss in TvP is idiotic. it it not even close to broken. Boxer made a horrible decision going for an expo while Hasuobs made a great decision going for a base trade and Boxer's production buildings.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3372
On April 25 2011 05:39 mathemagician1986 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:39 Kevan wrote:
4 out of 4 are europeans, 2 out of 4 are swedish.

awesome


naniwa and who's the second swede?


Thorzain.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3373
On April 25 2011 05:37 Beef Noodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:35 Euronyme wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:33 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:32 Logo2010 wrote:
Forget Zerg remax, Protoss Remax owns


On super late game, the scope of protoss design is much better.

Zerg spends 450 gold on Hatchery + Queen to get larvae

Protoss can get 3 warpgates with same money, warp anywhere on map.


Stop the f*cking whining. Warp gates can't make 25 units at a time.

Calm down. He's not whining. He making an observation. You have to realize that warpgates give toss a late game advantage, so as zerg/terran you have to plan accordingly


Terrans can kill off all their SCVs for a 70 supply advantage. That's not bad either. -.-'
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3374
getting some feedback from artosis
Spuggi
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3375
And to all this lategame balance trashtalk: yeah, warpgates are pretty good in lategame, but the warpgate units arent the fightwinning factor for toss like the colossi/hightemplar are and u also forget about the mules, as you could see boxer sacrificed a lot of scvs so he had more free supply for army cause mules doesnt cost any supply.
Beartrucci
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland85 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3376
These games haven't really been super exciting so far. The one thing that I love watching Boxer do is his drop harass, and considering that has been completely denied both games really takes away a really entertaining factor from his play.
화이탱!
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3377
BoxeR hit stim twice before one stim ran out, and "maybe if BoxeR had Thorzain's micro he would've won", really Artosis?Really?
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3378
Standoff macro games slip into Protoss' favor when both sides are amassing excess economy. Idle Gateways reinforces very fast and any location. Combine this with the Boxer being stuck at a lower tier and it's checkmate.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3379
On April 25 2011 05:39 Lennon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:38 Durp wrote:
Looking likely that it's all euro players in the final.
+ Show Spoiler +
Not to take anything away from those players, but the least effected by lag region has the best representation. I wish someday that starcraft 2 becomes big enough that this tournament is played on lan (lol LAN, the least likely part of this dream)


They're playing on the American servers so doesn't that mean there should be more American players?

They had NA and Europe qualifiers.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
April 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#3380
On April 25 2011 05:36 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:34 Sadistx wrote:
On April 25 2011 05:32 jwp36 wrote:
Why aren't Ts getting Ravens late game? Would have nullified DT harass and PDD for Stalkers..


Dunno. More T's should do that since going MMM/Viking leaves u with a lot of gas left over. He coulda had 5-8 ravens easily and more medivacs to boot.


there are these things called hts, and they have this ability called feedback

what kind of argument is that? there's ghosts as well..
It appears I have been chosen.
Prev 1 167 168 169 170 171 211 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
15:00
N-Korea Champ Playoff Day 1/2
QiaoGege vs SzikyLIVE!
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Mihu vs TBD
ZZZero.O214
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #235
iHatsuTV 233
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 99
Creator 94
BRAT_OK 52
Livibee 47
MindelVK 35
ForJumy 31
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1457
Shuttle 1150
Horang2 559
Larva 538
Mini 405
EffOrt 287
BeSt 233
Hyuk 230
ZZZero.O 214
Sharp 127
[ Show more ]
hero 114
Soulkey 86
sorry 66
Mind 42
Yoon 35
ZergMaN 22
ToSsGirL 21
Terrorterran 20
910 17
scan(afreeca) 16
yabsab 14
Shinee 12
Bale 6
eros_byul 2
Stormgate
BeoMulf80
Dota 2
qojqva2298
Dendi650
febbydoto19
Counter-Strike
fl0m2726
SPUNJ208
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King51
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor412
Other Games
singsing1894
Grubby1174
Hui .397
KnowMe263
crisheroes188
QueenE180
XaKoH 118
OptimusSC25
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1215
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 24
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Laughngamez YouTube
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4963
• WagamamaTV362
League of Legends
• Jankos3035
• TFBlade1160
• Stunt509
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 30m
Replay Cast
16h 30m
RongYI Cup
18h 30m
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
19h 30m
BSL 21
22h 30m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Wardi Open
1d 21h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W5
OSC Championship Season 13
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
Tektek Cup #1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.