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baeric
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 21:49:18
April 23 2011 21:46 GMT
#6261
+ Show Spoiler +
[
On April 24 2011 06:45 bRuTaL!! wrote:
MC 3-0d Kas.


its a best of 7 but thanks for the spoiler ...
Miah121
Profile Joined April 2011
229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 21:49:58
April 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#6262
On April 24 2011 06:45 bRuTaL!! wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Copenhagen Games Spoiler] +
MC 3-0d Kas.

Should have put a spoiler for people + Show Spoiler +
and it's a BO7 so 1 more game for now
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
April 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#6263
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 24 2011 06:40 qbs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 06:38 Vapaach wrote:
Even if Thorzain (or MC) won 3-0, just one series isn't enough to prove who is the better player.

Anyway, Naniwa v Thorzain finals incoming!



dont think so kas will destroy thorzain : 9

well i think you are both wrong cause boxer will win this one..:D
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
April 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#6264
On April 24 2011 06:40 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 06:36 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:33 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:31 JWD wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:29 Yaotzin wrote:
MC made some strategic blunders but is otherwise clearly the better player.

L
O
L

Guy loses 3-2 in extremely hard fought back-and-forth series, is "clearly the better player". Love it!

Other than the strategic blunders, yes. How do you think it was a close series despite those blunders?


How can someone be "clearly the better player" if they make several strategic blunders?

OTHER THAN THEM. God, how many times do I need to rewrite that? His micro/macro etc were better. His builds, upgrade timing etc were not at all.


Sorry, I did miss that part. In that case it's kind of a poor way to put it, why not say that Thorzain had much better builds and upgrades while MC had better micro/macro? That seems less likely to draw fire from the internet and doesn't take away from Thorzain's ability as a player.

Edit: I'd also say that having better timing than MC is pretty damn impressive.


IMO MC's templar and stalker micro are way more impressive than just picking the right build order. Thorzain will probably never have MC's unit control or ability to control the map, whereas someone like Jinro can just tell MC to build forges earlier and his weakness is instantly solved.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
April 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#6265
I love MC so I'm sad that he lost. That last game was disappointing. Watching 1 sided battles because of incorrect unit composition is ugly
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#6266
I am a Huge Thor fan , early poster in his fan club, but there is no counter to mass thor after mana bar removed.
MC for president
mpupu
Profile Joined June 2010
Argentina183 Posts
April 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#6267
On April 24 2011 06:46 baeric wrote:
its a best of 7 but thanks for the spoiler ....

If you don't want to spoil other people, don't quote the spoiler yourself.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
April 23 2011 21:47 GMT
#6268
On April 24 2011 06:29 Slomo wrote:
The EMP stuff from ThorZain in game 4 is the winner for the next "pimpest play"-video. He was so much behind in really everything and could tie up the game with this.
Love it.

Yea, except that at ALL other moments in the game his ghosts didn't EMP anything / were sniped by templars before they could. How MC can target individual ghosts that quickly is a bit "pimper" imho.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#6269
Man, Kas' TvP certainly isn't as good as Thorzain's, that's for sure.

On the other hand, it's Kas' first offline tournament, so I suppose he's really nervous.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 21:48:29
April 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#6270
ThorZain is exceptional at TvP, but I think Kas has stronger TvT. They're both awesome players, but advantage Kas

Please stop bickering guys, this series was freaking awesome. Both MC and ThorZain demonstrated that they are among the best of the best. Game 4 was maybe the greatest game played in this game's young history. Let it rest.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#6271
On April 24 2011 06:45 RaE21 wrote:
dunno why all the hate is going to Thorzain...regardless of who is "better player" or not, the kid played brilliantly in the match sets and in the end status has nothing to do with it. Kid deserves respect, he earned it


I don't think people are hating. It's just some pseudo argument over who is the better player and some people expressing doubts on Thorzain's abilities. Just try to ignore the posts you don't agree with, it's only opinions (something I should do as well )
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
April 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#6272
For everyone asking, Thorzain won the series 3-2.
dark fury
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden426 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 21:49:21
April 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#6273
whats the deal with kas hype? at least his TvP seems sub-standard, havent seen his PvT.
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
April 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#6274
watched Thorzain play at The gathering, the kid is a beast
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#6275
On April 24 2011 06:46 baeric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 06:45 bRuTaL!! wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
MC 3-0d Kas.


its a best of 7 but thanks for the spoiler ....

ARRGHHH when will people learn to not quote spoilers?
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
April 23 2011 21:49 GMT
#6276
On April 24 2011 06:43 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 06:40 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:36 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:33 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:31 JWD wrote:
On April 24 2011 06:29 Yaotzin wrote:
MC made some strategic blunders but is otherwise clearly the better player.

L
O
L

Guy loses 3-2 in extremely hard fought back-and-forth series, is "clearly the better player". Love it!

Other than the strategic blunders, yes. How do you think it was a close series despite those blunders?


How can someone be "clearly the better player" if they make several strategic blunders?

OTHER THAN THEM. God, how many times do I need to rewrite that? His micro/macro etc were better. His builds, upgrade timing etc were not at all.


Sorry, I did miss that part. In that case it's kind of a poor way to put it, why not say that Thorzain had much better builds and upgrades while MC had better micro/macro? That seems less likely to draw fire from the internet and doesn't take away from Thorzain's ability as a player.

Sorry ^_^

Thorzain came up with great builds, I'm not taking anything from him. However I haven't found his mechanics notable (not bad, just not notable) so I don't know how he'll hold up once people adapt. In particular how will he do against people who upgrade early and don't respond badly to funky builds?


wait what? He had +2/+2 even under harassement and kept his macro going, isn't that good mechanic?
Xaax
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States102 Posts
April 23 2011 21:49 GMT
#6277
But then MC has to save more units so his forge can afford those upgrade. Saving stalkers and sentry while playing MC's agressive style is actually hard against marauders :/.
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
April 23 2011 21:49 GMT
#6278
On April 24 2011 06:48 dark fury wrote:
whats the deal with kas hype? he is getting smacked by MC right now while thorzain was able to take MC down.

He is basically unexperienced in LAN-Events.

He play normally way better than this.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 23 2011 21:49 GMT
#6279
On April 24 2011 06:47 Hokay wrote:
I love MC so I'm sad that he lost. That last game was disappointing. Watching 1 sided battles because of incorrect unit composition is ugly


That annoys me as well. Give credit to TZ for busting out the mech at the right moment though
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 23 2011 21:49 GMT
#6280
I think people need to stop taking sides in the last matchup. Fanboyism will just avert you from the fact that every game played in that series was PvT at its finest level, and a great fucking matchup regardless of who came out on top.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
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