Yesterday's broadcast has had its issues. We all saw it. There are 10+ pages of whining. There is an entirely new cast going on now. Please keep whining about issues experienced yesterday to yourself going forward in the thread and allow other people to enjoy the games.

darklordjac

Canada2231 Posts

April 18 2011 02:51 GMT

#1801

I would like to think Zenio saw those mutas and thought "OH FUCK

Airship

United States465 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1802

Alright, I'm just going to ask. Do you think Tyler deserves a regame, or do you think he's shit out of luck?

Irave

United States9965 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1803

This is another reason why Sen is my favorite zerg to watch play. Playing so well right now.

TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1804

On April 18 2011 11:50 Ostracized wrote:
What was said in the 'When Cheese Fails' video? I watched it and I didn't notice anything offensive.

I think most people that object didn't care for the "I don't need to stuff a banana in my pants because I'm black" joke, the use of "rape" a few too many times (including with a spine crawler), and some comment about viewers in Mexico not existing (I didn't hear that last bit). Those didn't really ruffle me, I just didn't find it funny at all.

GreYMisT

United States6736 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1805

anytime Sen wins anything I always remember him yelling "YOU SEE?!?"
very intense ZvZ so far.

CaptainFwiffo

United States576 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1806

Wow, Sen is amazing.

ZionsWrath

United States121 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1807

What was the offensive joke? I missed it.

Aequos

Canada606 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1808

I haven't seen many ZvZ games that get to the mutalisks, but the few I have seen - the mutalisks haven't been nearly this effective. Insane on Sen's part.

IndieFinch

United States124 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1809

Problems happen, but you guys still need to at least watch the edited version. After the first spoilers the other day you would think it would have been taken into account.

Outside of that, Idra v Socke was an awesome series. And Sen v Zenio is shaping up to be pretty damn good too.

Moonwrath

United States9568 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1810

On April 18 2011 11:52 Airship wrote:
Alright, I'm just going to ask. Do you think Tyler deserves a regame, or do you think he's shit out of luck?

SOL

Baby_Seal

United States360 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1811

This game is insane.

First I thought the game was over when Zenio lost all those banelings for close to free, but Zenio caught up.

Then I thought the game was over when Sen lost that big attack at little cost to Zenio, but Sen has managed to come back from that.

mind = blown

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

April 18 2011 02:52 GMT

#1812

how did sen get so far ahead?

War Horse

United States247 Posts

April 18 2011 02:53 GMT

#1813

I haven't seen a single sponsor message or sponsor/ads in the studio. How exactly is NASL affording this prize pool, anyways?

Nabes

Canada1800 Posts

April 18 2011 02:53 GMT

#1814

On April 18 2011 11:50 Defacer wrote:

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THANK THE FUCK GOD. It's wasn't just their humour, which was immature, rude and slightly misogynist. It was their obnoxious yuk-yuk laugh.

I thought they were doing some kind of post-modern satire of obnoxious, racist white kids, but then I realized they WERE obnoxious racist white kids.

You and Gretorp are getting better at casting, by the way. You guys seem to be getting into your comfort zone.

to be fair one of them is actually black

nufcrulz

Singapore934 Posts

April 18 2011 02:53 GMT

#1815

wow 53 to 34 harvesters right now in favor of sen

CaptainFwiffo

United States576 Posts

April 18 2011 02:53 GMT

#1816

This ZvZ is amazing too!

azarat

Australia155 Posts

April 18 2011 02:53 GMT

#1817

Sen monstering Zenio in macro. Holy crap.

gumb3rcul3s

United States4 Posts

April 18 2011 02:53 GMT

#1818

On April 18 2011 11:49 iNcontroL wrote:

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On April 18 2011 11:42 Heaton31 wrote:

On April 18 2011 11:36 iNcontroL wrote:
Let me just say this:

1. I am WAY against the humor displayed in that show during the intermission. I will speak on behalf of it being removed from future broadcasts.

2. This was a mistake. It's really really bad. I know the NASL is upset about it and will fix it. There is no way to go back in time.. but please know we are sorry.

3. Maps were updated. There is no legitimate argument for using the outdated maps. That too was a mistake overlooked by not consulting the pro players of the squad (me and gretorp). It has been rectified.

Some inside info:

The NASL isn't a bustling studio of 30 people. It's 5 production people and 2 commentators. We are hiring out professional help for the sound (after the problems) we consult pro's on the stage etc... but we are not some huge broadcasting company. When people say "mistakes like this shouldn't happen.. you need to watch for mistakes!" They do. They do the best they can. A lot of these guys are running off of 4 or less hours a night. Encoding, editing, doing graphics etc.. all each day after this schedule. Do they want your sympathy? No. No they do not. Do they expect better results than what we have produced? MORE THAN YOU KNOW. Nobody is more pissed than Russ and co after each mistake.

This is the first week. None of them came from a broadcasting / league background. All of them are chasing a dream and trying to do it to the best of their abilities. When we make mistakes please tell us with all of this in mind. If you STILL feel the need to say "FIRE X" or "THIS IS FUCKING TERRIBLE" then I guess go ahead and do that.

I get to wake up in the same house as these people and watch them go at it for another 16 hours each day.

It is absolutely unacceptable to make these mistakes and they will not be made continuously. As they happen they get fixed asap. In the end it makes us better. We were never planning on 1 season so we have time to fix these things. Ideally, would they never have happened? OF COURSE. Is it possible to have caught these faster? CERTAINLY. But we didn't and we are sorry. Please understand the sheer effort and work that is going into this. This league is growing and it has growing pains. It also has amateur mistakes and huge errors. All of which will be sorted out as they come up.

I'm sure most everyone appreciates the honesty, accountability and full disclosure, but for paying customers, I don't think reading about how the production team has little experience in broadcasting tournaments is a good thing.

I think most people are learning some hard lessons from MLG and NASL. Don't pay for a product until you know what the product is.

Please stop.

I really get annoyed with all this extremist language. It's not even the end of the first week yet and people are STILL getting top quality games. yes there are issues but they are being fixed as fast as they can (usually the next day).

I really get annoyed when people assume 25$ is wasted because the first week wasn't perfect.

What was extremist about that comment? It's unreasonable for a paying customer to be dissatisfied with a product that was hyped up to be the best thing since sliced bread for e-sports only to find out that it is being performed by a very bare bones and novice production crew?

Tachion

Canada8573 Posts

April 18 2011 02:53 GMT

#1819

Sen's weakness is that he overcommits to mutas then loses them all to a couple infestors ;/ saw him lose like twice on his stream just recently going mass muta in zvz.